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Post by koven on Mar 16, 2008 10:55:10 GMT -5
Joss has said it his self that a reason Buffy movie failed is because its a story you can tell in a hour or whatever time. Its something that grows over time. Like is Joss turned season one into a movie it would not have worked even if you took the stand alone episodes etc with every season. They only worked because they where told over time. Well, clearly you can't tell a season arc anywhere near as well in the space of a two hour movie. That goes without saying. But then Joss wouldn't be writing a movie in the same way as he planned out 22 episodes of television. Buffy grew into what it did because the series allowed for the story to grow but a movie would be a smaller story, although no less epic. It's not as if we are talking a retelling the show here. Just adding a story on to the end of it. Look at it this way. The X-Files worked because it was a series and yet they are still able to tell a story within the space of a movie. Stargate is over as a series but the writers still plan on building on what has gone before with a movie series. 24, one of the most arc heavy series in televiion history, will be getting a movie once the show is over. You can't tell me that you don't think Joss is capable of writing an epic story set in the Buffyverse that could be told in the space of a two hour movie. The story and character development has been done on the show. All the movie has to do is tell a kickass story featuring the characters we already know and love.
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Lukee
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Post by Lukee on Mar 16, 2008 11:08:15 GMT -5
What I'm saying is it wouldn't work. Sure Joss has the brain power to tell great story's and junk but i don't think a Buffy movie would work. If they did it would have to be a stand alone movie nothing epic or anything. Then that could work. But if they wanted a movie that was epic, end of the world, who's going to die oh no story i don't think it would. The reason Buffy worked so well was because it was a tv show and because we grew to love the characters, the big bads reveled them selfs bit by bit and we had the stand alones. In a movie that wouldn't be the same.
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Post by koven on Mar 16, 2008 11:15:07 GMT -5
No, I get what you are saying. I totally disagree with what you are saying, but I do get it. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I tend to think you are limiting what a Buffy movie could be to what a Buffy season once was. I think they would be two entirely different animals, same as an arc episode of the series was different to a standalone ep. Written differently to suit different needs. Either way, ultimately it's not down to either of us as Joss is the one who will need to be writing it. If and when it happens I guess we can all judge how well it works.
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Post by Emmie on Mar 16, 2008 12:40:34 GMT -5
i think a buffy would be possible as far as writing the story, but thats gotta be difficult to write as a film b/c there's so much history for all the characters. but i wouldn't be happy with any buffy film that didn't have the original actors so i have trouble seeing how that would happen.
if you could have a buffyverse film, what would you want it to be about or who?
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Post by koven on Mar 16, 2008 14:01:01 GMT -5
if you could have a buffyverse film, what would you want it to be about or who? Okay, take into account that I came up with this idea soon after Angel was cancelled and so way before the current comics existed but I had an idea where the then proposed telemovies (Spike, Willow, Faith and Giles if I remember correctly) would tell four parts of a single story where our heroes discovered a plot to bring an end to all the magic within the Buffyverse. The movies would lead into an ongoing televised Spike series where Spike would be on a mission to prevent this ultimate apocalypse from coming to pass. Eventually it would lead up to a situation that brought Angel and Buffy back into the mix and that story would be told in a final movie (or better yet, a trilogy) where Buffy, Spike, Angel and the various surviving allies would fight the final battle, as discussed in Fray. Obviously the build up is now happening in the comics, rather than on television, but the basic idea remains that we are heading towards the realisation of the events Fray was told about. I'd still say that this final battle and the events immediately leading up to the end of this era of the Buffyverse should be told in movie form.
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Post by xmadxscientistx on Mar 16, 2008 17:18:49 GMT -5
I agree with Koven.
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Post by barryshaft on Mar 16, 2008 21:47:09 GMT -5
The problem is business really. Could a Buffyverse movie work? Absolutely, I mean they had four movies under consideration after Angel ended (Spike, Faith, Willow and...was there a fourth?) so clearly the stories are possible. If they wanted to do a direct-to-dvd movie like the Stargate series has done they could definately do some good stories in the time span. Bhere's a limited amount of success with that and most of the cast is probably used to a bit more prestige so I don't know if that would really sway SMG back into the Fray. Were they to go the theatrical route, a la Serenity, there'd probably be some story issues. Serenity was an excellent movie and a great companion piece to Firefly, where it faltered was in it's leaving some of the characters out of the majority of the film (Mal and River are pretty much the only ones with significant screen time) and in the fact that they had to set up all the characters and situations once again... With a theatrical film you have to appeal to a very wide audience and a Buffy movie would essentially only appeal to the fans (similar to Serenity, which did amazing with critics and fans but flopped financially). Were they to try and appeal to a wider base they'd have to waste lots of time explaining just who everyone is, what is going on in the Verse and it'd just not work storywise without watering down the characters and leaving lots of them on the sidelines (or out of it completely)
Anyways, Dark Horse is a huge company and they've got lots of properties...I really doubt a Buffy movie is on the way... maybe Fray but that's pretty far fetched.
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Post by KingofCretins on Mar 17, 2008 6:23:44 GMT -5
This deal gives Universal about as much power to make a Buffy movie as it gives it to make a Star Wars movie.
Properties that Dark Horse is publishing as comics that are licensed to it by the owners shouldn't be affected by this. This should only affect properties that actually belong to Dark Horse. So that doesn't include Buffy or its characters, but probably does include Fray.
In fact, with it being Universal, and them still having what I think is a three picture deal with Joss, I'd say the odds are pretty good.
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Post by buffynerd on Mar 17, 2008 14:46:59 GMT -5
I agree with king completely. Buffy is already licensed so this gives Universal no authority. Buffy was owned by Fox long before Darkhorse came into the picture and there's no way Fox is going to let that go. I think Darkhorse should have done a better job at specifiying what characters were up for grabs and not throwing out a blanket statement like this.
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