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Post by Wyndam on Feb 20, 2008 12:59:53 GMT -5
I'm also not exactly onboard or even clear with this "Buffy may betray herself" deal. What does that even mean? Is she going to kill herself? Tell herself she looks fat in a certain outfit? Go and tell Twilight where her secret base is so he can come kill her? It all sounds a little silly if you ask me.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Feb 20, 2008 14:29:34 GMT -5
The way you say it does kind of make it sound kind of silly, but when I think about, I think of it as being dramatic. Something like, Buffy will succumb to everything that is going on around her and just give up, she wont care. Making her an easy target for Twilight, maybe giving herself up to him or maybe even helping him.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Feb 20, 2008 15:26:56 GMT -5
But we don't know that. Robin doesn't "someone close", she says "the closest".
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Post by mandikaye on Feb 20, 2008 15:55:25 GMT -5
Mikey - you keep making claims about what Joss does or doesn't want us to feel or infer. I'm curious as to what your source is - I'm sure that you don't have a direct link to Joss' brain or anything.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Feb 20, 2008 16:12:33 GMT -5
I love debating about Buffy-stuff. As long as it's healthy. Now I'm even more excited to find who or what this betrayer thing is.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Feb 20, 2008 16:26:16 GMT -5
That would really suck. It does seem like one of those season ender things, or maybe around half way where everything changes. Angel turning to Angelus, Faith teaming up with The Mayor, etc...
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Post by Wyndam on Feb 20, 2008 18:47:17 GMT -5
Yeah I would imagine it will be around the halfway point when everything will go wrong.
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Post by buffysmglover on Feb 23, 2008 2:34:16 GMT -5
The way you say it does kind of make it sound kind of silly, but when I think about, I think of it as being dramatic. Something like, Buffy will succumb to everything that is going on around her and just give up, she wont care. Making her an easy target for Twilight, maybe giving herself up to him or maybe even helping him. My take on it is that Buffy decides to put the most trust and responsibility she can muster in the hands of the betrayer. Another take I had on it is she actually allows it to be done to her. Not because she gives up or anything, I don't know why. but that's why I'm not a genius with the mind of Joss Whedon.
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Post by faith0tvs on Feb 24, 2008 13:58:41 GMT -5
Hm Twilight coudnt be Xander for if you take a carefull look on how Georges Jeanty draws his jaw and jawline you will notice that its quite different from the one we see when Twilight partially pulls off his mask. If she allows it to be done to her then it could be because she thinks that things are quite unbalaced since the events of chosen and she believes that she deserves this punishment. Also the whole "my first girft would be my last" line could mean nothing more than that he sparred Buffy's life on their first meeting something that is unlikely to happen again
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Post by xander84 on Feb 27, 2008 1:56:08 GMT -5
I just read this issue.. (i know, i know, i'm all late!!)
But it was simply amazing!! I just loved it!!!
ah, i can't wait for more!!
Xander as Twilight. I don't know. I doubt it would be him..... Maybe its Riley. Its obvious its going to be someone that we know and wouldn't expect. But who!?!
I loved the dialogue in it and seeing Dawn partying was fun.
I really admired Buffy for taking the time out to talk with Satsu. That act made me love her character more.
Great Issue!!!
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Post by xmadxscientistx on Feb 27, 2008 2:38:52 GMT -5
In my opinion, Twilight isn't Riley because last we saw him he was happily married and fighting the good fight. It's not Xander, because Xander is Xander. It *might* be Andrew. It could be Giles, but I doubt it. I would bet money Ethan Rayne isn't dead.
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Post by spuffy4ever on Feb 27, 2008 22:40:15 GMT -5
Great issue! I think Riley is Twilight, but I'm still trying to figure out how and why. In the books, Riley was killed off. So, instead of dying, he was healed, brainwashed, and is being controlled by someone else, maybe Ethan. This comic is so good, it makes me miss the show even more. Still waiting for that Buffy movie! Ha Ha
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Post by balesthebloody on Feb 27, 2008 22:46:52 GMT -5
In my opinion, Twilight isn't Riley because last we saw him he was happily married and fighting the good fight. It's not Xander, because Xander is Xander. It *might* be Andrew. It could be Giles, but I doubt it. I would bet money Ethan Rayne isn't dead. Why would it be Ethan? He loved magic well chaos really but still I don't think that he would have wanted to end it.
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Post by Wyndam on Feb 27, 2008 23:07:32 GMT -5
In the books, Riley was killed off. So, instead of dying, he was healed, brainwashed, and is being controlled by someone else, maybe Ethan. Books aren't canon, so Riley is still alive and well, as far as his character is concerned. As for Ethan, he looked pretty dead with that bullet hole in his head.
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Post by underbuffysspell on Feb 29, 2008 17:02:29 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this issue! It was one of the best, in my opinion. I even enjoyed it more than I enjoyed #10...and I really liked that one.
However, I am glad that Mr. Jeanty is back for the art because honestly I like his work more than I like Mr. Richard's. Jeanty made it, in my opinion, believable that Buffy Season Eight was still...well Buffy for me.
I dunno how to explain it really...I am just glad that he's back. I also can't wait for Ms. Chen's return in 16!!! XD
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Post by Magician Named Gosh on Feb 29, 2008 17:39:42 GMT -5
I've been debating on who it could be and why it could be that person, but I'm pretty sure that If I come up with Theory A, then it will actually end up being Theory Z2342323hkjhskjdhf. Joss seems to have a habit of going "Oh...so you think THIS is going to happen? Well guess what...SHAZAM! THAT JUST HAPPENED!" I guess I will just sit back in the corner, twiddle my thumbs, and wait for the answer to appear.
And again... SHAZAM! (just because it's fun to say)
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Post by barryshaft on Feb 29, 2008 20:15:13 GMT -5
I've been debating on who it could be and why it could be that person, but I'm pretty sure that If I come up with Theory A, then it will actually end up being Theory Z2342323hkjhskjdhf. Joss seems to have a habit of going "Oh...so you think THIS is going to happen? Well guess what...SHAZAM! THAT JUST HAPPENED!" I guess I will just sit back in the corner, twiddle my thumbs, and wait for the answer to appear. And again... SHAZAM! (just because it's fun to say) So your theory is Captain Marvel is behind this then? Hmm, I like it. You know, the Ethan theory is interesting, it most likely couldn't be true...but his appearance at the beginning was rather weird wasn't it?
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Post by mandikaye on Mar 1, 2008 2:10:33 GMT -5
I'm still not convinced Ethan is really dead. But I'm not really sure he's a likely candidate for Twilight, either.
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Post by alexa on Mar 1, 2008 3:14:24 GMT -5
Really enjoyed this issue.. the Bander, the Buffy/Satsu conversation was good.. I'm liking her now. But bloody hell I hope Renee is the betrayer.. probably not though.
I'm so confused about who Twilight could be. Too many possibilities.. I hope we find out the same time as Buffy.. feels a little too 'Days of our Lives' when they show the audience first.
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Post by buffysmglover on Mar 1, 2008 3:30:16 GMT -5
Haha! I don't think I've ever heard anyone mention DooL in Buffy conversation until now. But, you're definitely right.
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