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Post by wenxina on Feb 18, 2009 14:11:25 GMT -5
Hi Beautiful issue! Just a thing... Fray says: "I'm such a needs", but what does 'needs' mean? Desperate? (Again, sorry about this question, but I'm italian, I don't understand well this future slang" :S I took it to be a degenerated version of "special needs", which is a euphemism for handicapped in one way or another (i.e. mentally handicapped).
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Post by Emmie on Feb 18, 2009 14:41:44 GMT -5
Hi Beautiful issue! Just a thing... Fray says: "I'm such a needs", but what does 'needs' mean? Desperate? (Again, sorry about this question, but I'm italian, I don't understand well this future slang" :S It's basically a play on Fray being slow on the uptake and kicking herself for letting Buffy take the upperhand.
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Post by anneke on Feb 19, 2009 10:39:47 GMT -5
Wenxina and Emmie, thank you.
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Post by Mathieu on Jun 20, 2009 0:52:56 GMT -5
I just reread Part 4 of Time of Your Life, probably one of my favorite issues because we get the biggest revelation...
And it struck me at the end that the fact Fray's world doesn't end when Buffy gets back to the present time is absolute truth that Buffy is not going to change the future. Everything's gonna happen the way it's supposed to. If she was to change the slightest thing, Fray's world would be gone. So we have confirmation that Willow will live 200 years and will turn dark and will be killed by Buffy. Unless they decide to go with a few plotholes.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Jun 21, 2009 17:23:27 GMT -5
I just reread Part 4 of Time of Your Life, probably one of my favorite issues because we get the biggest revelation... And it struck me at the end that the fact Fray's world doesn't end when Buffy gets back to the present time is absolute truth that Buffy is not going to change the future. Everything's gonna happen the way it's supposed to. If she was to change the slightest thing, Fray's world would be gone. So we have confirmation that Willow will live 200 years and will turn dark and will be killed by Buffy. Unless they decide to go with a few plotholes. Or unless they split off into an alternate timeline... or already have. Otherwise it's going to suck, because Joss has already given away the ending.
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Post by gelious on Jan 23, 2010 12:56:22 GMT -5
I have finally read Frey comics (and I liked it) and then I decided to read Time of Your Life once again. I have a strong feeling that I know how, why FDW said "It's a long story" , explained how Buffy can return to her present and got herself killed. She did all of this, because It is some kind of time loop or something for Willow and Buffy. So FDW told truth to Harth and lied Fray.Also, FDW was aware that Buffy will kill her and didn't want Willow from the past to watch it (despite the fact that FDW knew that Buffy will tell present Willow what happened) The question is why on the Earth FDW didn't tell Buffy what is gonna happen to change everything. May be she didn't want to change anything.... May be she is/will/was (as you wish Twilight ally.
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Post by DorothyFan1 on Jan 24, 2010 21:26:35 GMT -5
I just reread Part 4 of Time of Your Life, probably one of my favorite issues because we get the biggest revelation... And it struck me at the end that the fact Fray's world doesn't end when Buffy gets back to the present time is absolute truth that Buffy is not going to change the future. Everything's gonna happen the way it's supposed to. If she was to change the slightest thing, Fray's world would be gone. So we have confirmation that Willow will live 200 years and will turn dark and will be killed by Buffy. Unless they decide to go with a few plotholes. Thank you for verifying what I've been saying...there's a time loop. However, I've discovered there is a way out. I posted my theory elsewhere but it amounts to this - Willow needs to leave the time line otherwise it will continue exactly as we've been given. By removing herself from the equation...the Slayer line will continue and the Fray timeline will be different. Willow's death in that future now has been changed BECAUSE Buffy saw it and went back to the past. This hasn't happened before. Willow's future death and Buffy's return to the present changed the game. Now Joss is going to tell us what WOULD have happened had Future Willow not had the foresight to change the event which CAUSED the Fray future to happen. Twilight doesn't know Willow rigged his game by one upping him. Present Buffy and present Willow don't know this yet.
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Post by gelious on Jan 25, 2010 4:29:31 GMT -5
I posted my theory elsewhere but it amounts to this - Willow needs to leave the time line otherwise it will continue exactly as we've been given. By removing herself from the equation...the Slayer line will continue and the Fray timeline will be different. Yes, I have already read about you theory Unfortunately I am not so sure about this part.
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Post by DorothyFan1 on Jan 25, 2010 5:42:08 GMT -5
I posted my theory elsewhere but it amounts to this - Willow needs to leave the time line otherwise it will continue exactly as we've been given. By removing herself from the equation...the Slayer line will continue and the Fray timeline will be different. Yes, I have already read about you theory Unfortunately I am not so sure about this part. It would have to be because otherwise Buffy won't survive what happens. Buffy has to do something different otherwise the same event is going to occur all over again ending the entire Slayer line. There's something else. I had a look at Anywhere But Here and I believe Willow is trying to teach Buffy about time distortions for a reason. I think Willow is trying to tell Buffy that unless she learns about how to escape from the impending disaster she won't survive. Xander makes a joke in issue #31 about something which made me think about something mentioned earlier. Joss is throwing out these clues to see if we'd pick them up. I posted the following in a previous thread in spoiler tags on this idea I came up with. It's wild but there's a certain logic to what I've come up with. After reading Xander's "it's a nuke" comment made me look up the early issue when Buffy and Willow captured General Voll. In that issue Voll made a comment about wanting to nuke the Slayers. I believe Xander's comment and the General Voll's remark are related. I believe Twilight refers to a nuclear holocaust about to happen. I believe the name Twilight is a code word for nuclear war. I also believe Twilight's mask is shaped like the outlines of a nuclear bomb. I also think the symbol on Twilight's crescent shaped image on his breastplate symbolizes the result of a nuclear explosion. The question is who causes it. I've posted the idea in a previous thread that it's Twilight himself who is going to cause the explosion. I believe Twilight himself is rounding up all the remaining Slayers with his Wiccan army and is herding them into a centralized location.
Twilight himself wants to show Buffy "something". I don't know what he wants to show her...but I believe Twilight wants to give Buffy just enough information to make her change her mind about the Slayers to help avoid the catastrophe. Granted...what I just posted in the spoiler tags is a pretty wild theory but it matches up why Willow would want Buffy to kill her in that future. Willow would have no reason to continue living after what happens...so Willow has concocted this plan to hopefully allow Buffy to see what happened and give her the chance to stop it. My theory between the spoiler tags also seem to line up why it would be Willow who survived the "event".
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