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Post by Whedon Fan on Oct 30, 2008 17:22:40 GMT -5
My guess is FDW, she will (as far as we know) serve no purpose after this arc is done. Unless Joss is going to one day continue Fray and he wants to keep her to have FDW in the Fray series. I highly doubt it though, it will be weird seeing her die...I mean it is after all still Willow
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Post by hitnrun017 on Oct 30, 2008 17:22:52 GMT -5
I was not going to read it either, but like Emmie, I decided "what the hell, we've waited long enough".
I don't think Joss would kill our Willow, especially NOW. That would make everyone go insane. If he wasn't going to kill any of the core four in Chosen because fans would rip him apart, I don't see how that's any different than Season 8. My bet is on FDW also, I'm thinking Willow will look into the portal and sees Buffy killing her and she runs- sorry, flies away and leaves for a bit.
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Post by jellymoff on Oct 31, 2008 13:23:31 GMT -5
Hmmm. I'm not convinced that Amazon knows what's up. If its any of the core, my money is on Willow, but I think it will go down differently.
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Post by twilightbass on Oct 31, 2008 15:28:20 GMT -5
Isn't Willow on the cover for "After This Messages"?
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Post by CowboyGuy on Oct 31, 2008 15:55:16 GMT -5
Isn't Willow on the cover for "After This Messages"? She sure is. But also, that issue is a flashback and it's also a Buffy story. So apparently she travels through time, to the past where life was simpler. Willow's death in the present might be the catalyst for After These Messages... causing Buffy to want to stay in the past.
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Post by BenTaylor3907 on Oct 31, 2008 19:57:11 GMT -5
Maybe it will be Buffy and Mel standing back to back with Harth over his sister and Dark Willow over Buffy in the background. And maybe a little faded. Ya know?
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Post by henzINNIT on Oct 31, 2008 20:21:27 GMT -5
Killing Willow present time would be one hell of a ballsy move. Fans should stop panicking though, there is no way in hell Willow is going anywhere, even if she dies.
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Post by Yam Sham on Oct 31, 2008 20:42:21 GMT -5
I'm not trusting this spoiler until it's confirmed by more sources.
No need to go into aneurysm mode yet.
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Post by dane5by5 on Oct 31, 2008 23:46:51 GMT -5
I don't see how it could be Willow in the present, there are no significant threats to her at the moment and she has her own personal Slayer bodyguard and a group of Slayers under her command. All the other major characters have been confirmed to be appearing in the one-shot arc.
Future Dark Willow however has threats. Buffy. Fray if she finds out she's been lied to would have no problem killing her. Harth could turn on her. Or she could kill herself, a sacrifice or suicide, especially if she's survived this long just so she can see Buffy again and try to circumvent something that happens in the past. If she fails, perhaps she'll kill herself.
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Post by Wyndam on Nov 1, 2008 12:59:35 GMT -5
My money is on Future Dark Willow as well (if the Amazon blurb is even true...). Buffy, Xander, and Willow are all pretty much untouchable when it comes to death (yes I know there were plans to kill off Xander, but thankfully Joss was talked out of that), and I really don't see their stories ever coming to an official end. They will probably go the way that Luke, Han, and Leia have gone in the Star Wars Expanded Universe (all three are still alive and untouchable in the near 50 canon years after the battle of Yavin).
If anyone dies in #19, it will most likely be FDW.
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Post by Joe on Nov 1, 2008 13:13:08 GMT -5
I'll jump on the bandwagon and vote FDW as well. If Willow died in present time.. I don't know what I would do.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Nov 1, 2008 22:36:24 GMT -5
I don't see how it could be Willow in the present, there are no significant threats to her at the moment and she has her own personal Slayer bodyguard and a group of Slayers under her command. This gave me a sort of sick thought. I don't think our present Willow is getting killed, but the fact that we haven't heard anything about her post-issue 19, there is still chance. My thought: Kennedy is the "inside man" and kills Willow. Us the readers know about it but all the other characters don't and Kennedy plays them. Sort of like Jasmine.
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Post by CowboyGuy on Nov 2, 2008 0:21:02 GMT -5
My money is on Future Dark Willow as well (if the Amazon blurb is even true...). Buffy, Xander, and Willow are all pretty much untouchable when it comes to death (yes I know there were plans to kill off Xander, but thankfully Joss was talked out of that), and I really don't see their stories ever coming to an official end. They will probably go the way that Luke, Han, and Leia have gone in the Star Wars Expanded Universe (all three are still alive and untouchable in the near 50 canon years after the battle of Yavin). If anyone dies in #19, it will most likely be FDW. I don't think anyoneis 'untouchable'. Joss is the type to do this sort of thing...giving us what we need, not what we want. Willow's death could result in a worn, torn, anguished Buffy that we caught a glimpse of in Anywhere But Here.
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Post by dane5by5 on Nov 2, 2008 1:59:55 GMT -5
I don't see how it could be Willow in the present, there are no significant threats to her at the moment and she has her own personal Slayer bodyguard and a group of Slayers under her command. This gave me a sort of sick thought. I don't think our present Willow is getting killed, but the fact that we haven't heard anything about her post-issue 19, there is still chance. My thought: Kennedy is the "inside man" and kills Willow. Us the readers know about it but all the other characters don't and Kennedy plays them. Sort of like Jasmine. I would consider that the "closest and most unexpected betrayal" for Willow. It is also strange that Willow isn't mentioned in any of the upcoming one-shots. I was assuming she just went of on another trip like she's been doing so often this season, and is implied to be AWOL since "Chosen" but you never know...
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Post by dane5by5 on Nov 2, 2008 2:01:30 GMT -5
My money is on Future Dark Willow as well (if the Amazon blurb is even true...). Buffy, Xander, and Willow are all pretty much untouchable when it comes to death (yes I know there were plans to kill off Xander, but thankfully Joss was talked out of that), and I really don't see their stories ever coming to an official end. They will probably go the way that Luke, Han, and Leia have gone in the Star Wars Expanded Universe (all three are still alive and untouchable in the near 50 canon years after the battle of Yavin). If anyone dies in #19, it will most likely be FDW. I don't think anyoneis 'untouchable'. Joss is the type to do this sort of thing...giving us what we need, not what we want. Willow's death could result in a worn, torn, anguished Buffy that we caught a glimpse of in Anywhere But Here. And Scott Allie did say that in this season there's going to be a moment when Buffy has a serious cry session.
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Post by butters666 on Nov 2, 2008 2:28:51 GMT -5
I say kill someone, the bigger the better. Thats life, whats the point in reading this if all the main characters are invincible? That and Joss pretty much said if they make a movie the comic and all that happend will prolly be null so i say he can do what he wants...bring it.
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Post by faith0tvs on Nov 2, 2008 10:17:14 GMT -5
hmm all these suggestions seem pretty valid except one fact, why kill willow? I mean why kill her and not someone else? All the Deaths in the Bverse helped investigate the depths of several characters, right now somehting like that will be unnecessary to say the least, my bet will be on Future Dark Willow , the snake lady's advice seems pretty valid and we can safely assume that Buffy won't be all that pleased whens she finds out about FDW's plan to kill her , she won't be merciful , after all that creature has nothing in common with her best friend.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Nov 2, 2008 10:47:09 GMT -5
I don't think anyoneis 'untouchable'. Joss is the type to do this sort of thing...giving us what we need, not what we want. Willow's death could result in a worn, torn, anguished Buffy that we caught a glimpse of in Anywhere But Here. And Scott Allie did say that in this season there's going to be a moment when Buffy has a serious cry session. Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Add it to issue 20, with Buffy wanting to stay in the past, and I'm thinking it actually COULD be present Willow that gets killed. If that's the case, I highly doubt she'll stay dead.
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Post by CowboyGuy on Nov 2, 2008 14:42:38 GMT -5
Could the death of Willow be the motive for Oz to return? Seems like the most likely scenario in which he would ever want to come back, to grieve.
Removing Willow would remove a core dynamic though.
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Post by magicegidius on Nov 2, 2008 18:00:50 GMT -5
What if it is not Willow but Buffy who turned the world bad??? It would explain why Fray hits her on the ground.
And if Buffy realizes she has started this awfull world...
Maybe the death of the major character is Buffy being killed...And somehow picked up from the past in the next issue...
If this would be Willow...it would be to obvious... and Joss has never been obvious before...
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