Enisy
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Post by Enisy on Oct 28, 2008 10:05:19 GMT -5
[glow=blue]Wesley. Illyria.[/glow] I love this pairing to death. Second OTP in the Buffyverse, right after Spike/Buffy, in fact. Any other fans? *bounces* I really liked how... despite their rather dysfunctional relationship, you could see them both trying. Wesley was more actively involved in Illyria's redemption than he had ever been in Faith's or Lilah's -- partly because of his guilt about Faith and Lilah, I imagine, partly because he was clinging to the remnants of Fred in her. And Illyria, for her part, heeded Wesley's wishes, no matter how absurd she may have found them ("This is important to you. Things have names. The shell. ...Winifred Burkle.") and tried to understand him by means of her connection to Fred. I just think there's something beautiful about Illyria's leap from "This is grief... I'm watching human grief, it's like offal in my mouth." to "Wesley's dead. I'm feeling grief for him. I can't seem to control it." -- And Wesley's almost entirely responsible for that.  I know I'm just touching the tip of the iceberg, but you really can't say enough about those two. |
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Post by hitnrun017 on Oct 28, 2008 14:50:40 GMT -5
The dynamic between these two is my favorite thing about Season 5, the scenes between them were always the most dramatic and they always broke my heart. "Because I look like her?" makes me cry like a little baby. I really wish it was explored more. There hasn't been enough in AtF, IMO.
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Post by BennyTheKey on Oct 28, 2008 15:04:57 GMT -5
I saw "Not Fade Away" yesturday for the first time, (shoot me, I'm late I know!)
It was so sad, these 2 were such a great pair.
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spurtyknowledge
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Post by spurtyknowledge on Nov 5, 2008 13:11:18 GMT -5
The dynamic between these two is my favorite thing about Season 5, the scenes between them were always the most dramatic and they always broke my heart. "Because I look like her?" makes me cry like a little baby. I really wish it was explored more. There hasn't been enough in AtF, IMO. Ditto on all counts. Wesley/Illyria are one of my favourite pairings in either series. Intense, strange, beautiful...their scenes in Season Five really did it for me. |
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XanderHarris
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Post by XanderHarris on Nov 6, 2008 5:44:17 GMT -5
As much as I like both Wesley and Illyria, there's always something wrong to me about their relationship.
Well, Illyria has Fred's looks and it must've been really hard for Wesley to realize that the love of his life is nothing more but a shell, still, in my opinion, the relationship of both towards each other, was a little bit over the top.
Of course Fred's in the mix, but If I was Wesley, I would've felt more hate than sympathy for Illyria. It killed Fred.
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Enisy
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Post by Enisy on Nov 28, 2008 6:29:14 GMT -5
Of course Fred's in the mix, but If I was Wesley, I would've felt more hate than sympathy for Illyria. It killed Fred. Illyria wasn't the one who instigated the murder, though, was she? By the way, I hope you all read Issue #14 of Angel: After the Fall. It's ON, baby. General questions: What's your favourite Wesley/Illyria scene? (If you could list something other than Wesley's death scene, which we know is pretty much everyone's favourite, that would be cool, too.  Would you use the L-word for Illyria's feelings for Wesley?
Do you think Wesley could ever come to love Illyria?
What's your favourite episode for Wesley/Illyria?Spoilerish questions (highlight to read): Do you think Wesley will play any part in the damage control for #14's events, what with the leverage he has over Illyria?
Do you think Wesley, Illyria or both will survive Angel: After the Fall? |
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Post by Jsebold87 on Dec 9, 2008 16:22:08 GMT -5
Here's a Wesley/Illyria wallpaper (I didn't make this):  |
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Post by VampSlayer on Jan 25, 2009 20:10:48 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of this shiping, but I love the scenes with them. The way Wes acts with her, and how Illyria knows that he only treats her kindly, because she looks like his true love. xD I don't know why I just put 'xD', because it's actually kinda sad...
EDIT : Here is an awesome vid out there for all you Wes/Illyria Fans!
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Enisy
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Post by Enisy on Jan 26, 2009 6:05:31 GMT -5
Thanks, VampSlayer! There are a good few quality Wesley/Illyria videos out there, actually, especially considering how little screentime Wesley and Illyria got. My favourite is still: And - Kiss Me by NickDescription: A dramatic vid looking at the Wesley & Illyria storyline towards the end of Season 5 Angel. Song: Knife Prty - Deftones |
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Post by BenTaylor3907 on Jan 26, 2009 15:20:26 GMT -5
Do you think Wesley will play any part in the damage control for #14's events, what with the leverage he has over Illyria? What leverage? *curious* |
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Enisy
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Post by Enisy on Jan 26, 2009 15:56:24 GMT -5
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Post by Enisy on Jan 28, 2009 14:45:36 GMT -5
Ah, okay. I would have loved to watch the dysfunctional Wesley/Illyria relationship that Joss had planned for Season 6 of Angel, but I understand where you're coming from, of course. That's how I feel about Angel & Cordelia, Xander & Buffy and Spike & Illyria myself.
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Post by Wyndam on Jan 28, 2009 18:13:32 GMT -5
The Wesley/Illyria dynamic is one of my favorite aspects of the Buffyverse. Their story is really heartbreaking and I love every scene they share in the final few episodes. While I am not a fan of the idea that Wesley would ever develop romantic feelings for Illyria (besides the obvious affiliation Illyria has with Fred, and Wesley wanting to be close to Illyris because she reminds him of Fred), I do love how attached she became to Wesley, and it is clear that over the course of S5 and AtF, she definitely has some sort of feelings for him. I absolutely love that. If S6 had happened, I think this relationship would have developed into one of the most fascinating relationships in TV history.
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Post by The Girl In Question on Sept 8, 2009 22:04:24 GMT -5
I'm not a Fred/Wesley fan AT ALL, yet I found myself really liking the idea of Illyria/Wesley. Am I insane? Probably....okay I am.
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Post by slayerthorn on Mar 17, 2010 18:20:57 GMT -5
I have mixed feels about this 'ship. In my mind I hate it because I am a fan of Wesley/Fred but when I see Welsey/Illyria together I can't help but like it. They are really great together in a way my mind doesn't understand.
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