Buffy's Death- Another Slayer?

[andy369]

Hey guys! I was just wondering. When Buffy died the second time, why was there not a third slayer called?

[SlayerLV]

Because at that time Faith was the "active" Slayer. So in other words Faith would've had to have been killed before a new slayer was called.

[Wyndam]

Because there was already a Slayer still active in the world (Faith).

[andy369]

Then how come in the episode POTENTIAL, while Dawn is under the impression that she is a potential, they tell her that the only way she could be activated, would be if Buffy died?

[Emmie]

i think that's a misunderstanding that either the writers for that episode made or else it was meant to show that dawn didn't understand how the next slayer would be called. i've always thought that the slayer line was active through faith and that's why no new slayer was called when buffy died...it was a one time deal where buffy's death would call another slayer (kendra)

but thinking back on it, there are other moments in season 7 where its mentioned that buffy's death would activate another slayer. maybe the scoobies allowed the newbies to believe this so they wouldn't have to explain about faith.

<shrugs> sometimes the show contradicts itself

[meghann]

I have two theories:

1. The line was transferred to Faith and only her death results in a new Slayer.
2. A new Slayer was called, but we aren't aware of it.

The first has made the most sense since we never met another Slayer. However, as early as 'Choices', the writers made mention to Buffy's death resulting in a Slayer. However, that could merely be the perception of the characters not realizing the line had been passed to Faith.

We were not aware of Kendra or Faith until they made an appearance in Sunnydale. It's plausible a new Slayer was activated from Buffy's second death. With the Council and Buffy not on the best of terms, they could have chosen not to fill her in. Plus, they might have wanted to keep a tight leash on the newly Chosen One.

I've always leaned more to the first theory, but overtime feel strongly about the second theory. Mainly because I think about the time when Buffy was gone. With a Slayer in jail and the other dead, we never heard of the Council's concerns. Unless they were relying on Buffybot & the Scoobies. If only Giles had ellaborated more on their conversation mentioned in 'Flooded'. *sigh*

When season seven rolled around, the Seers were looking for Potentials, not Slayers. So if a Slayer had been called, she wouldn't have made a bleep on the radar.

Either theory works since nothing is finite in the 'verse. Plus, it's fun to play around with ideas. And yes, maybe I have too much time on my hands! ;D

[CowboyGuy]

This one's easy!

From Prophesy Girl till The Gift, the slayer lineage ran through Kendra, then to Faith. Buffy was a anomaly, out of the fold so to speak.

When Willow brought Buffy back, she was "reborn" as a slayer. Creating a new slayer line starting with her. Thus fragmenting the Slayer line in two. Making the mystical forces around the slayer line unstable, unable to protect itself. From that point on either Buffy or Faith could create a new slayer from their deaths.

This was what Beljoxa's Eye spoke of when he informed Giles and Anya that The First attacked "because The Slayer lives...again".

[merso]

meghann said:

When season seven rolled around, the Seers were looking for Potentials, not Slayers. So if a Slayer had been called, she wouldn't have made a bleep on the radar.

Remember that in ANGEL, a woman tried to kill Faith using a Bringer's knife.

I think, however, that the true theory in the first one, just because if I'm not mistaken, it was a fanwank that was eventually confirmed by one of the writters in an interview, back when season seven was still on air.

It was pretty lame that it was never explained in the show. And to have the characters contradict it... sheesh... you just have to roll with it.

[Emmie]

wow cowboyguy, i'd always been a bit confused on what beljoxa's eye meant about the mystical forces surrounding the slayer line being disturbed. they never really spelled it out in the show what it meant for buffy to 'live again'.

huh, that makes so much sense. so in this theory either buffy or faith's deaths could trigger the call of a new slayer.

cool i learned something that had always been bugging me

[meghann]

merso said:

meghann said:

When season seven rolled around, the Seers were looking for Potentials, not Slayers. So if a Slayer had been called, she wouldn't have made a bleep on the radar.

Remember that in ANGEL, a woman tried to kill Faith using a Bringer's knife.

Ahh... Debbie. I always wondered what her jailhouse visit was like. Did a Bringer come by or was it Caleb to hire her for the hit? Did they offer her a "carton of cigarettes and some soap", but she passed for money. Spice Williams is Joss' go to girl for offing Slayers. *lol*

I was referring to the Seers within the Coven helping out Buffy and the gang. If a new Slayer was around, their search for Potentials wouldn't have caused her to be found.

[TC]

I've always thought of it like this:

Up until season one, Buffy was THE Slayer. After her death, she was A Slayer, one from the past that shouldn't be alive anymore. She retained all her powers, but could no longer pass on the line. Almost like she gained an infertility for the Slayer Line. Then Kendra became THE Slayer and when she dies Faith becomes THE Slayer, but Buffy was still A Slayer, not THE Slayer. If Kendra were to have come back and died again, the line would not have passed because only Faith had the ability to pass the line on. Get what I'm saying?

And if The First wanted to rid the world of Slayers why would he attack Faith? That'd just make another one...

[meghann]

thechosen said:

I've always thought of it like this:

And if The First wanted to rid the world of Slayers why would he attack Faith? That'd just make another one...

That's something I have often questioned. After discussing it with others and debating it amoungst myself, I figure that a new Slayer would be easier to deal with than Faith. The First probably figured that eventually, Faith would be recruited by Buffy and the gang to help fight. She was a stronger warrior then a fresh Slayer would have been.

[scout93]

Around the time of her second death, Faith was still in jail They forgot about Faith until Willow brought her home. But I guess, in a way, now that there are a ton of slayers, it is possible for a new Slayer to become active when Buffy dies.

[alycat7]

scout93 said:

Around the time of her second death, Faith was still in jail They forgot about Faith until Willow brought her home. But I guess, in a way, now that there are a ton of slayers, it is possible for a new Slayer to become active when Buffy dies.

I dont think that Buffy's death will create a new slayer. The whole point of Willow's spell was to make sure that slayers can be created without the one before them dying.

[commandercool]

I always assumed there was a third Slayer, she just never appeared in the series.