Annoying Inconsistencies

[BennyTheKey]

Was watching Season 3 last night, with the episode featuring the First, and (correct if wrong) Miss calander touched Angel, which in Season 7 wasnt allowed at all,

so it made me think theres loads of mistakes made in Buffy that goes against the "rule" and shouldnt be allowed, anyone want to say what other inconsistencies they found?

[Skytteflickan88]

Oh, there are so many. So, so many. I found this webpage once didicated to inconsistinces in Buffy, other tv-shows and films.

[Rachster]

Finally a thread for this!

Some that annoy me the most

Dawn leaving her bag on the chair in the principals office but then when she walks out its over her shoulder again

Buffy's invisible cell phone pocket in Lessons

THE FIRST so many problems with it, it's not corporeal yet when it walks we can hear footsteps its always sitting on things and like Benny said in season 3 it rubbed angels hair

The snow on the ground in amends

Tabula rasa .. Everyone wakes up in different places of poses after they pass out!

Season 3 when Anya tells xander to run away with her and they can take turns in driving and then in season 5 when willow and Anya are in Giles car Anya says that she has no idea how to drive..

Giles tattoo from the dark age just disappears after that episode

In innocence when xander tells Cordelia to meet him at willow's in half an hour wearing something trashy in the next scene its daylight! and we see Buffy and then all of a sudden its night again and xander Cordy willow and oz turn up at the army base.


This one probably bugs me the most

In killed by death we see Buffy in the hospital as a little girl she has brownish hair with hazel eyes ...then in The Weight of the World we see Buffy as a little blonde girl who looks nothing at all like the girl from killed by death..that just drives me crazy

[Spike's Slayer]

Well ive been watching Angel today, and in the episode the Prodigal (i think it is) Angelus rises from the grave, and when hes with Darla, he bites the graveyard attendant guy, and there's absolutely no blood on his mouth whatsoever. Hmm.

[oncemore]

the vampire inconsistencies really bug me, but I've just had to learn to live with them, but yay a threat to rant on!-

Vampires don't breathe they therefore can't smoke, and if they did smoke it wouldn't do anything for them as they don't have running blood, which means they can't get an erection (although there is already a threat on that). Oh and on the subject of breath.. it really bugged me that in S7 they decided to DROWN!!! spike, such a glaring and annoying inconsistency

ANGEL CONSTANTLY STANDS IN THE SUN!


When somebody is sired in buffy they "rise" once they have been buried (which at the least is probably a week after they've been killed), however when Darla was sired on AtS she rose again that night, and when Angel sires that girl from Buffy's class she rises again that night, that bugs me.

I know it can't be helped but buffyverse vampires certainly do age!

not really an incosistency but- when vampires bite people i swear they only lick a bit of blood most of the time, which seems like an awful waste of blood as you could get ALOT from one human, but there you go.

Other inconsistencies-

Buffy's changing D.O.B. in the first seasons, I've always thought the sensible thing to do when inventing a character would be to determine the concrete facts- i.e. D.O.B.

Anya's varying knowledge of humans, sometimes she speaks about them as if she hasn't got a clue about anything (like when she first asks xander to have sex) and then we find out she used to be a human

In buffy Darla didn't know what a slayer was... however in the past she was pretty aware

The Master having bones was annoying as there was never any justification, it was just used to make a story-line at the beginning of S2

[jellymoff]

Jun 5, 2008 12:46:28 GMT -5 Rachster said:

Finally a thread for this!


Giles tattoo from the dark age just disappears after that episode

Gile's tattoo show up again in "No Future for You". I don't remember which issue but he tells Faith something like-Do you think you are the only one to ever rebel?

[hitnrun017]

You can see the tattoo in Goodbye, Iowa too, when he turns off Xander's tv.

[Greer]

There are a couple minor things I've noticed, I guess it's just bad editing.

In S2, there are a couple of episodes in which the mic that's above the actors is seen(I'm not a theater/movie buff at all, so I have no clue what the official name is).

In Showtime, Buffy's shoes change back and forth about 5 times, from the black heels to the sneakers and back again.

Finally, in Chosen, the position in which she holds the Scythe changes while she's running out.

It's always bothered me, that as the seasons progressed, that vamps were allowed to be out in light more. At the end of Season 3, Angel is clearly in the light when they're all planning what to do at graduation. In S6, Spike is out in the sun for a while.

When I was watching First Date last night, Wood keeps looking in his rearview mirror at Spike. If vamp lore was correct, then Wood would see nothing in the mirror's reflection.

I've got more, I've just gotta think of 'em.

[Smashed]

In the show's defense, I don't think they were trying to drown spike. Having your head in ice cold water is pretty much torture...

[wenxina]

As for vampires in sunlight, it's been mentioned several times on Angel that vampires can be out in daylight, just not direct sunlight.
Vampires don't need to breathe, but that doesn't mean that they can't. If they couldn't, then sniffing out prey would be an impossibility too.
As for when vampires rise... it's usually the next night, I think it's been mentioned several times on both shows that they usually rise anytime between dusk and dawn following the siring. I'd point out that burials used to be immediate in the past as they did not have the embalming chemicals available to us today... meaning that corpses rotted pretty quickly, thus increasing the risk of disease, nevermind the stench.

[El Diablo Robotico]

Jun 5, 2008 11:54:08 GMT -5 BennyTheKey said:

Was watching Season 3 last night, with the episode featuring the First, and (correct if wrong) Miss calander touched Angel, which in Season 7 wasnt allowed at all,

Does she touch him? Really? Or does she just put her hand so close to his skin that it looks like she touches him?

If I remember correctly, she doesn't physically push him or cause him to move at all, so I don't quite see it as an inconsistency, because there's nothing that conclusively proves her as being corporeal in that scene.

Now, if you wanna talk inconsistencies with the First, how about everything that happens in the Dawn scenes in "Conversations with Dead People"? (We've already done a thread on that recently, tho...)

[BennyTheKey]

I thought I saw her touch his hair or run her hands her hands through her hair ? I'll have to rewatch the episode

[ded1]

I'm not sure if this would be an inconsistency,but it did bother me a little.

In S1,they had the codex that pertains to the slayer of the 21st century(ie. Buffy).How come we never see it again?EVER

[oncemore]

[quote author=wenxina board=shows thread=
As for when vampires rise... it's usually the next night, I think it's been mentioned several times on both shows that they usually rise anytime between dusk and dawn following the siring. I'd point out that burials used to be immediate in the past as they did not have the embalming chemicals available to us today... meaning that corpses rotted pretty quickly, thus increasing the risk of disease, nevermind the stench.

[/quote]

I see your point, however in buffy's time vamps are always popping out of their graves, suggesting they do not rise the following night of being sired but more like several days to a week later.

[hitnrun017]

I think the amount of time for a vampire to rise depends on the amount of blood their sire drinks. I think it was made clear in Helpless, when Kralik turned one of the Watcher Council people.

Kralik: Ah, you're up. I was afraid I drained you too much. I do that sometimes.

[angelmonster]

Jun 5, 2008 12:46:28 GMT -5 Rachster said:

In killed by death we see Buffy in the hospital as a little girl she has brownish hair with hazel eyes ...then in The Weight of the World we see Buffy as a little blonde girl who looks nothing at all like the girl from killed by death..that just drives me crazy

I had blond blond hair, like yellowish white, when I was a kid and when I hit puberty it turned to brown. It can happen.

As far as inconsistencies go meh, whatever. I watch it for the story and characters and honestly, even the ones I noticed, were never that important to me.

[Greer]

I just watched Amends the other night, and Jenny does touch his head. I also believe that Angel puts his head on her lap as he's laying down in his mansion.

Another thing I noticed in Amends is that the Bringers a) Chant, so they aren't mute, and b) Have much different eye carvings. The second one is probably just a variety thing, but something I noticed.

[Smashed]

OK, In School Hard Sheila got bit and rose in like 25 minutes, right?

Because she was clearly in the light in the principals office.
Then she's a vamp the night of Parent Teacher night?
Hmm.
Unless she got vamped the night before or something.

[wenxina]

Jun 7, 2008 19:23:04 GMT -5 oncemore said:

[quote author=wenxina board=shows thread=
As for when vampires rise... it's usually the next night, I think it's been mentioned several times on both shows that they usually rise anytime between dusk and dawn following the siring. I'd point out that burials used to be immediate in the past as they did not have the embalming chemicals available to us today... meaning that corpses rotted pretty quickly, thus increasing the risk of disease, nevermind the stench.

I see your point, however in buffy's time vamps are always popping out of their graves, suggesting they do not rise the following night of being sired but more like several days to a week later.[/quote]

Unless Sunnydale (with all its cover-ups) usually mandates the immediate burial of suspicious deaths?
I dunno... I think it's more for the fun of showing things popping out of the ground like groundhogs than an actual timeframe issue.

[wenxina]

Jun 7, 2008 19:33:00 GMT -5 hitnrun017 said:

I think the amount of time for a vampire to rise depends on the amount of blood their sire drinks. I think it was made clear in Helpless, when Kralik turned one of the Watcher Council people.

Kralik: Ah, you're up. I was afraid I drained you too much. I do that sometimes.

That was in reference to whether he had fully drained the victim. Darla (in Angel) once described the procedure, you had to drink until you felt the heart slow down, and then you do the blood swap. In this case, Kralik was saying that he wasn't sure if he had exceeded that point, i.e. drank until the heart stopped, at which point siring is impossible.