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Post by gunslingerdante on Oct 15, 2008 14:03:53 GMT -5
Compared to Vamps in other media, how do think they stack up? Are they the coolist? What I like about them is how both Angel and Spike killed the sterotypes we see in vampires in tons and tons of other moives, shows and books. Angel always had a action hero vibe to him and proved that vamps are not just about sex. And Spike, well if Wolverine was a vampire you most likey get something like Spike. It Seems like Ever since Buffy and Angel went of the air. Alot of the Vampire characters in TV,BOOKS etc...that came aftewards are just mediocre compard to Joss's Vamps. Anybody Agree?
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Post by siredbyspike on Oct 16, 2008 0:50:08 GMT -5
I agree mostly with you, but at times i do have to say that Angel smacks of Louis from Anne Rice's vampire chronicles. And i see a bit of Lestat in Spike, and their whole dynamic together sometimes. But i haven't found any vamps that came after so far that are half the vamps they are, even with their souls. I just started reading Twilight because my friend begged and begged and i'm not that far in, but i'm thinking Edward is severely going to dissapoint me. I'm so picky about my vamps now thanks to Anne Rice and Joss Whedon that if they don't dust when staked or have certain other qualities that meet my particular standard (for example, whether they have a reflection, if crosses can bother them, how you kill them, etc.) i get all bent outta shape, yet at the same time i would like to see a fresh new take on those things. It just never seems to be the fresh new take i want i guess!
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Post by gunslingerdante on Oct 20, 2008 12:04:26 GMT -5
[ I just started reading Twilight because my friend begged and begged and i'm not that far in, but i'm thinking Edward is severely going to dissapoint me. I'm so picky about my vamps now thanks to Anne Rice and Joss Whedon that if they don't dust when staked or have certain other qualities that meet my particular standard (for example, whether they have a reflection, if crosses can bother them, how you kill them, etc.) i get all bent outta shape, yet at the same time i would like to see a fresh new take on those things. It just never seems to be the fresh new take i want i guess! [/quote]
The Vampires in Twilight are pretty likable. I'm on the thrid book right now. And so far I am enjoying them. You will find that Edward shares some character traits with Angel, only he is more inpulsive then Angel. And a little more overdramatic.
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Post by siredbyspike on Oct 23, 2008 0:47:24 GMT -5
Good! I haven't even got to finish the first book yet, I work too much lol. But i'm hoping to like the vamps alot more than i think i will. I guess it's just slow starting out.
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Post by cheryl on Oct 29, 2008 7:54:26 GMT -5
I'd have to agree that all other vampires fail when comparing to Joss's. Angel is simply the best!
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Post by slayersarah on Nov 2, 2008 2:30:23 GMT -5
i have yet to read any Anne Rice books sadly, but of the vampire books/series i've watched here's how i would rank them:
1. Spike 2. the Cullens (Twilight) 3. Angel 4. Vampire Kisses vamps (Vampire Kisses series by Ellen Screiber) 5. True Blood vamps 6. Vampire Diaries vamps (Vampire Diaries series by L.J. Smith)
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Post by Angelsgirl on Nov 3, 2008 12:03:44 GMT -5
I think Joss has pretty much made believe in only the ways of his vampires, which is why i refuse to read about any other vampires and their different lore.
From what I have heard about Twilight, yes it sounds quite good and i might rent the movie when it comes to DVD, but the Vampire Lore just makes me cringe!!!
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Post by Spike's Slayer on Dec 2, 2008 7:21:02 GMT -5
I agree, I find it sorta hard to believe any other vampire lore after being a Buffy and Angel fan, so in my opinion, Spike and Angel would be the best.
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Post by bullseye on Jan 24, 2009 0:25:41 GMT -5
Compared to Vamps in other media, how do think they stack up? Are they the coolist? What I like about them is how both Angel and Spike killed the sterotypes we see in vampires in tons and tons of other moives, shows and books. Angel always had a action hero vibe to him and proved that vamps are not just about sex. And Spike, well if Wolverine was a vampire you most likey get something like Spike. It Seems like Ever since Buffy and Angel went of the air. Alot of the Vampire characters in TV,BOOKS etc...that came aftewards are just mediocre compard to Joss's Vamps. Anybody Agree? - gunslingerdante
Spike is the fuckin best ever no doubt about it but as far as him and wolverine. well there both tough guys but other than that their pretty different.
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Post by patxshand on Jan 29, 2009 9:39:46 GMT -5
Angel and Spike are by far the best vampires. Cleverly written, well acted, fully fleshed out, nuanced characters. Heroes and villains wrapped up in one messy pile. Joss Whedon sort of set the new standard, but the thing is... how can you beat the best? Angel and Spike win.
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Post by sarahi on Feb 1, 2009 23:42:07 GMT -5
I think that any relevant vampire in the Jossverse is cooler than other vampires in other shows and movies. After seeing BtVS and AtS, I saw stuff like Underworld as something in poor taste.
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Post by Faith5byFive on Jan 20, 2010 9:55:17 GMT -5
Angel & Spike are the only vampires in my eyes they both have different but great qualitys to each of them ans when Spike got a soul too you could see they both were vampires with a soul but they were so different and both were extremley scary & cute at times
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Post by thisyearsgirl91 on Jan 23, 2010 16:43:01 GMT -5
Angelus? Yes.
Spike? No.
Any vamp looks good next to the Cullens. They make The Count look scary.
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Post by Randi Giles on Jan 23, 2010 17:21:17 GMT -5
My list
1. Spike he's just awesome 2. Eric love him 3. Blade kick-@$$ 4. Angel my champion 5. Vampire diaries Then the rest.
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Post by willowsummers on Jan 29, 2010 12:01:35 GMT -5
I have seen a lot of vampire movies and some tv and I can say that Angel and Spike were definitely the most unique and well-rounded vampires I've seen. They are definitely my favorite because they can show the depth of cruelty and the height of love in the same vampire character. My two favorite scenes with the two of them pertaining to them strictly as vampires is in Damage first when Spike tells the slayer I've done a lot of terrible things but you weren't one of them and the other was when Angel went to see Spike after he'd had his arms put back on: SPIKE Though the tingling in my forearms tells me she's too far gone to help. She's...one of us now. She's a monster. ANGEL She's an innocent victim. SPIKE So were we... once upon a time. ANGEL Once upon a time. quotes from Buffy World I live at that place hehe
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Post by CourtneyDax on Feb 9, 2010 2:48:03 GMT -5
I haven't really been exposed much to the vampire media, but I know that they a heck of a lot better than any other TV show vamp that I've seen. I've seen Moonlight and Vampire Diaries and its just garbage really compared to Buffy.
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Post by Faith5byFive on Feb 9, 2010 15:21:24 GMT -5
No Vampires can stack up to Spike and Angel they set the standards and haven't been beaten they had the coolest look when they vamped out the contacts/proshtetics/teeth were just fantastic and beyond cool. They were both great looking. The actors that played them were brilliant and they weren't just Spike and Angel normal vampires they both had souls which is something totally different.
And they were both so different to each other. The new vampires of todays TV SHOWS Stefan&Damon vampire diaries Bill&Eric true blood , they are okay but they just don't match up to Spike and Angel.
Also it was really cool that Angel was also a different person (Angelus) and in flashbacks you got to see him as Liam & Angelus and you got to see Spike and William and his punk days in Fool For Love.
Spike & Angel are the greatest vampires ever and i just dont think anyone can live up to the standard of the actors or the characters.
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Post by joan on Feb 10, 2010 10:23:20 GMT -5
Well, Spike is personally my favorite vampire.
My favorite non-Jossverse vamps include Lestat from "Interview with a Vampire", Mick St. John from "Moonlight", and David from "Lost Boys."
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Post by joan on Feb 10, 2010 10:25:03 GMT -5
I haven't really been exposed much to the vampire media, but I know that they a heck of a lot better than any other TV show vamp that I've seen. I've seen Moonlight and Vampire Diaries and its just garbage really compared to Buffy. I tried watching "The Vampire Dairies" and was bored silly. But I have to disagree about "Moonlight." I thought the show was really good, and was pretty bummed when it got canceled.
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Post by Faith5byFive on Feb 10, 2010 12:56:30 GMT -5
I sorta liked Moonlight i got half way through then stopped watching it. Mick was sorta like a wanna be Angel with the whole PI broody I HATE BEING A VAMPIRE BLAHHHHHH sorta thing
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