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Post by henzINNIT on Jul 13, 2009 18:12:15 GMT -5
... what a dick.
I get that he wasn't that important to the story, but it's kind of sad that he got swept under the rug, 'cause the guy we saw that one time didn't seem like the kind of man who'd abandon his kids.
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Post by Destructo Girl on Jul 13, 2009 18:38:30 GMT -5
Hank's retcon from 'caring family man who loved his daughter(s) and took her to go shoe shopping every once and awhile' to 'deadbeat dad who's sleeping with his secretary and doesn't even acknowledge his kids' existence' always bugged me. Of course, they needed Buffy to have more problems than she already had at the time...  |
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Post by Randi Giles on Jul 13, 2009 18:44:38 GMT -5
Hank hasn't been a real father since Buffy's been the slayer, but in my own mind I don't think he'll be under the rug for much longer.
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Post by snizapman6294 on Jul 13, 2009 20:56:10 GMT -5
what if Hank's Twilight?
... just kidding...?
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Post by Destructo Girl on Jul 13, 2009 21:30:33 GMT -5
what if Hank's Twilight? ... just kidding...? Heh, Hank as Twilight. That guy sure knows how to make a re-entrance, don't you think?  |
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Post by snizapman6294 on Jul 13, 2009 21:38:24 GMT -5
hahahahhahahahah
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Post by buffyfan21 on Jul 13, 2009 21:44:06 GMT -5
I agree it's messed up that Hank went from caring dad to dead beat in one fowl swoop. I never understood that...
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Post by henzINNIT on Jul 14, 2009 4:29:37 GMT -5
It may have added to the misery of the sixth season if Hank made an appearance and leaves again unable to accept that his daughter died and came back to life.
Maybe the changes in his character have something to do with Dawn being shoe-horned into their lives....
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jul 14, 2009 5:34:42 GMT -5
Maybe the changes in his character have something to do with Dawn being shoe-horned into their lives.... That's actually likely. After all, the monks had no problem with making Buffy and Joyce love her, so why not make the father stay away? Less drama in the family equals more time to defend the Key. |
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Post by loveisabird on Jul 14, 2009 6:59:27 GMT -5
Maybe the changes in his character have something to do with Dawn being shoe-horned into their lives.... That's actually likely. After all, the monks had no problem with making Buffy and Joyce love her, so why not make the father stay away? Less drama in the family equals more time to defend the Key. Maybe the monks kept Hank away from Dawn for a reason. . |
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jul 14, 2009 11:19:23 GMT -5
I'm seeing a lot of maybes Heres another; Maybe Hank couldn't stand Dawn like me. Buffy was an independant daughter capable of looking after herself. Maybe he couldn't handle needy Dawn. It's possible that the presens of yet another teen age daughter drow him away. But on Dawn's behalf I still want to stay; Hey! |
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Post by snizapman6294 on Jul 14, 2009 11:28:30 GMT -5
i think it's ridiculous that Hank didn't show up at Joyce's Funeral... But that really shows the level of his douchebaggery.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jul 14, 2009 12:25:00 GMT -5
i think it's ridiculous that Hank didn't show up at Joyce's Funeral... But that really shows the level of his douchebaggery. Weren't they unable to get a hold of him? Or was that when she first got sick? |
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Post by snizapman6294 on Jul 14, 2009 12:28:12 GMT -5
i think it's when she first got sick... but then i think it was for her funeral that he was skiing (?) with his secretary... or some cliche to that effect.
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Post by gumgnome on Jul 14, 2009 14:12:50 GMT -5
i think it's ridiculous that Hank didn't show up at Joyce's Funeral... But that really shows the level of his douchebaggery. Karma for the term 'douchebaggery'. I like it and think I'd like to use it in conversation more often. |
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Post by snizapman6294 on Jul 14, 2009 14:14:54 GMT -5
hahaha thank you.
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Post by Zombierella on Jul 16, 2009 6:58:12 GMT -5
Buffy and her father went to the Ice Show every year making it a tradition. Hank sent Buffy a card along with 2 tickets to the Ice Show. The card explained that he couldn't afford to take the time off from work. I think that that's so cruel. He took her every year and he knew how much she was looking forward to spending time with him.
I understand if he really couldn't take the time off, But he didn't even have the desency to call her? He couldn't call her personally to tell her that he couldn't take her? It just seems to me that he didn't really care whether this made her miserable or not. Infact, Joyce seemed happier to take Buffy than Hank did.
I feel as though Hank wasn't a good father to Buffy. I don't think he even tried to understand her. Not when he and her mother were together, Not when they were in LA, and not when Buffy and Joyce were in Sunnydale. It seems to me like he only wanted to spend time with Buffy when it was convenient for him.
But, What can you expect from a father who takes off with his secretery and leaves no means of contact. At one time he did give Buffy a # but after a while the # was no longer in service.
Also, Hank didn't call Buffy to give his condolances for her mothers death. He didn't come to the funeral. He did nothing. That is a very sh*tty thing to do!
I'm not a big fan of Hank. But I never realized how much I disliked him before writing this. I never really gave it much thought till now. But now that everythings coming out at once..I really don't like him!
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Post by gumgnome on Jul 16, 2009 10:46:56 GMT -5
As much as I dislike him by the end, I agree with those here who've pointed out the total character assassination that occurs with him - at first, it's an understandable parental divorce with a caring, loving dad. By the end of the series, he's just a negligent as*hole.
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Post by Midnight Butterfly on Jul 16, 2009 17:24:19 GMT -5
I always get confused about Buffys dad. We are lead to believe at the start of the series that he is a nice guy. The reason the divorce happened between him and Joy is because they grew apart and argued endlesly.
Later in the season we are lead to believe that he was a jerk who abonded his kids and moved on with another woman.
I always thought that this had someting to do with Dawn. Her creation effected all of their pasts. I always thought that this is one of many things that changed due to Dawn.
Has anyone else thought that or is it al in my head?
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Post by snizapman6294 on Jul 16, 2009 19:52:48 GMT -5
MB, you do raise a good point and i agree. but i don't think dawn's arrival changed the destinies of Hank, Joyce, and Buffy (well buffy a little)...
cuz i think in the 'verse, it seems like everyone has a destiny that they stick to no matter what... like Hank's destiny was to be a douche bag and step out on Joyce. Joyce's was to die from an aneurism.
like it wasn't dawn to caused her aneurism, it just happened, and probably would've happened whether dawn arrived or not...
wait! was it established that her aneurism was caused from Joyce's memories being altered... i vaguely remember that or am i crazy?
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