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Post by ukkid on Jul 14, 2009 9:38:23 GMT -5
Buffy all the way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  <<<< Buffy killing Angel and Spike lol  |
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Post by snizapman6294 on Jul 14, 2009 12:24:28 GMT -5
Buffy > Angel > Spike
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Post by ukkid on Jul 14, 2009 12:27:53 GMT -5
Buffy>Spike>Angel
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Post by Overkill on Jul 14, 2009 14:10:09 GMT -5
Angel > Buffy > Spike
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Post by jellymoff on Jul 14, 2009 14:40:53 GMT -5
Pretty sure Angel says that Buffy is stronger than him. I think the Slayer is meant to be a bit stronger than a vamp.
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Post by wenxina on Jul 14, 2009 15:08:31 GMT -5
Pretty sure Angel says that Buffy is stronger than him. I think the Slayer is meant to be a bit stronger than a vamp. Angel does say that. It's in the episode where Buffy shows up in LA, hunting Faith down. The strength issue has however always been a subjective thing, and any of the characters ever beating another character is not really a testament to their physical strength, but rather strength of will. Angelus beats Buffy in "Becoming, Pt. 2", but it is Buffy's affirmation of her own strength (and not just the support of her friends) that allows her to beat him. Spike's killed two Slayers before, but his reasoning for it wasn't so much that he was stronger, but rather because every Slayer has a death wish. Spike also beat Angel in S5 of AtS, but again, the subtext wasn't that Spike was stronger but because Spike felt that he had more to lose if he didn't get the prize. So unless all 3 get in a room where people can run empirical tests on their strength, there is no way to objectively state who is the strongest. |
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Post by henzINNIT on Jul 14, 2009 15:12:05 GMT -5
Buffy is stronger. No doubt about it. Angel says she's stronger than him in "Sanctury", and Spike is unable to lift Olaf's hammer in Buffy season 5, something the lil' lady can do with ease.
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Post by Wyndam on Jul 14, 2009 15:29:56 GMT -5
Pre-Time Bomb Illyria > Willow > Buffy > Angel > Faith = Spike = Post-Time Bomb Illyria > Connor > Gunn
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Post by wenxina on Jul 14, 2009 15:54:55 GMT -5
I think my point was that strength has never been portrayed consistently in either show.
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Post by ukkid on Jul 14, 2009 15:57:41 GMT -5
WILLOW IS THE STRONGEST CHARACTER IN THE BUFFYVERSE BECAUSE SHE IS CONNECTED WITH THE EArTHS AND BASCIALLY THATS HER WEAPON TO PERFORM POWERFULL MAGICS...AND SHE IS ALLSO CONNECTED WITH EVERYTHING AND EVERYBODYS THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS....
MINE GOES LIKE THIS
Willow > Buffy ( with weapon of the slayer which is built to kill the last pure demon that walk upon the earth ) > Illyria >Spike>Angel
(MY OPINION ) LOL
ALSO THIS IS BETWEEN THE ANGEL BUFFY AND SPIKE WHO IS STRONGER ( GET BACK IN TOPIC ) !!!!! LOL IF SOMEONE MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT THAT'S FINE !!!!
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Post by Kratos on Jul 14, 2009 15:59:49 GMT -5
Buffy>>Spike>>>Angel
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Post by Wyndam on Jul 14, 2009 16:01:11 GMT -5
WILLOW IS THE STRONGEST CHARACTER IN THE BUFFYVERSE BECAUSE SHE IS CONNECTED WITH THE EArTHS AND BASCIALLY THATS HER WEAPON TO PERFORM POWERFULL MAGICS...AND SHE IS ALLSO CONNECTED WITH EVERYTHING AND EVERYBODYS THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS.... MINE GOES LIKE THIS Willow > Buffy ( with weapon of the slayer which is built to kill the last pure demon that walk upon the earth ) > Illyria >Spike>Angel (MY OPINION ) LOL ALSO THIS IS BETWEEN THE ANGEL BUFFY AND SPIKE WHO IS STRONGER ( GET BACK IN TOPIC ) !!!!! LOL IF SOMEONE MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT THAT'S FINE !!!! Please don't write your posts in all caps. That = screaming on the internet, plus it is hard to read and just generally unnecessary. |
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Post by BenTaylor3907 on Jul 14, 2009 17:18:28 GMT -5
I'm going to go with Buffy. Although Angel and Spike both have centuries of experience, Buffy is filled with the essence of all the past slayers, which I believe helps her out tremendously.
Buffy would own Spike and Angel. She could probably take on both if she was PMSing.
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Post by Emmie on Jul 14, 2009 17:36:03 GMT -5
Pre-Time Bomb Illyria > Willow > Buffy > Angel > Faith = Spike = Post-Time Bomb Illyria > Connor > Gunn Why's Post-Time Bomb Illyria so low? If anything, I'd say she's still stronger than Spike from what we see of her in Not Fade Away and After the Fall. I think Illyria is hard to judge here. In terms of physical strength, I'd say it'd be a close call between her and Buffy actually in a fight but that Buffy has better and more creative fighting skills while Illyria is physically stronger but doesn't adapt well. Buffy > Angel > Spike - Buffy's physically stronger and Angel and Spike are probably about the same with Angel being slightly stronger. But fights between the three are a toss-up depending on who wants it more. I'd throw Faith in there as being somewhere between Spike and Angel. I do think Buffy would win in a fight against her not because she's necessarily stronger but has way more experience. All the sparring with the noob Slayers in Long Way Home show how important it is to have experience. But again, it's a toss-up depending on who wants it more. Willow is obviously at the top of the heap in terms of strength. And I'd place Illyria (even post-Time Bomb) right after her for her physical strength and armor which is far stronger than I believe Buffy has herself. The thing about Angel and Spike as vampires though is that they can gain strength from blood. So in a normal state: Hamilton > Post-Time Bomb Illyria > Angel But after Angel drinks from Hamilton and feeds off the power of the Senior Partners: Angel > Hamilton > Post-Time Bomb Illyria |
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Post by Kratos on Jul 14, 2009 19:11:51 GMT -5
If Twilight turns out to be either Spike or Angel then it's
Spike(Twilight)>>>>>>Buffy>>>>>>Angel
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Angel(Twilight)>>>>>>Buffy>>Spike
Twilight easily wiped the floor with Satsu and Buffy, he also demostrated to having a lot more physical strength then Buffy(picking up the church tower throwing it to Buffy with amazing force, almost killing her.
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Post by Randi Giles on Jul 14, 2009 20:04:54 GMT -5
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Post by ryonizdabest on Jul 15, 2009 11:48:54 GMT -5
If Twilight turns out to be either Spike or Angel then it's Spike(Twilight)>>>>>>Buffy>>>>>>Angel or Angel(Twilight)>>>>>>Buffy>>Spike Twilight easily wiped the floor with Satsu and Buffy, he also demostrated to having a lot more physical strength then Buffy(picking up the church tower throwing it to Buffy with amazing force, almost killing her. I thought Buffy had the upper hand when she did that flip kick in the air ...and twilight vs buffy was just once you dont know they might have a second time and buffy might win lol... |
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Post by Kratos on Jul 15, 2009 12:12:32 GMT -5
I thought Buffy had the upper hand when she did that flip kick in the air ...and twilight vs buffy was just once you dont know they might have a second time and buffy might win lol... The upperhand was quickly lost and Twilight continued beating up Buffy, that fight was a 100% victory for Twilight. But you're right, it's not the first time that Buffy got her ass severly kicked and ended up winning in the final fight. Like with Glory/Troll-hamer and Caleb/Scythe. |
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Post by Spiked on Jul 18, 2009 14:33:03 GMT -5
Buffy > Spike > Angel.
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Post by Tea - Total on Jul 14, 2010 7:07:08 GMT -5
Buffy all the way.
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