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I went with "it was okay." It was painfully obvious that this one was just a filler episode, and, after all of the tension and new layers that last week's episode brought to the main plot, I was really hoping that this week's would progress it a little more. It felt kind of like "Killed by Death" being slapped in right after "Passion" in Buffy season 2.
I liked it. It wasn't as great as "Needs" or "Spy in the House of Love", nor was it worse than "Echoes." And considering I thought "Echoes" was mediocre at worst, I think that says a fair lot about what I think of this episode (and ultimately, the series).
This series is hitting a nice stride. I like it lots.
Post by aluminumcandy on Apr 26, 2009 21:02:35 GMT -5
I really liked it, but can't say I loved it. The idea was interesting, and I can see them touching on the life after death idea again, only in a bad way. Like one of the main cast wanting a loved one back and throwing it in her face that she did it for herself. I will admit I liked the interaction within the Dollhouse and the Millie/Paul thing more so then the main story. Not the best episode but over all worth seeing and waiting on.
I liked it - the plot was more interesting than many of the other stand-alones, and it had quite a cool Cluedo/Gosford Park murder mystery in a quaint old house vibe that makes for entertaining viewing. BUT I agree with what Spiked said above in that it is filler still, and at this point in the season, I just want to know MORE!
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i may have looked too far into it but i thought the entire outer store was the filler while the story that had to be told was the topher story and how sad his life really is.....not sure why but i found it extremely touching when adele was explaining how that was his birthday present
i really think that had to be shown to understand his character and i hope it helps explain his actions later one
that's me assuming and hoping he makes some big actions later one that affect the dollhouse though
i don't know but i feel like there's was a whole lot of story in a few short scenes there
Hm, I must have forgotten to comment this one. lol I loved it! I loved the story in it so much!
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I thought the best parts were Eliza as the chick reacting to being kissed by her son (hilarious) and Adelle reacting to watching her friend effectively die, which was in all aspects of the word 'haunting.'
Overall I'd give it a B-
It didn't move the series forward but was a stand alone and felt as episodic as the first 5. On top of that, it was kind of boring as an episode. I kept waiting for something interesting to happen, but mostly came away disappointed.
Post by Midnight Butterfly on May 3, 2009 16:48:31 GMT -5
This episode showed that the show is getting better and better and that in NEEDS a second season to find its feet. I also think its been a while since we seen a standalone episode. I was shocked to find out who the killer was . At the start I thought it was him, then I didnt, then I did again and then I didnt again lol
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The good; Terrific central concept, imagine waking and being told by your friend that you've died and then getting to attend your own funeral and find out what everyone thought of you. Some lovely scenes too with Topher and Sierra and the continued humanisation of Adele. The story of this ruptured family getting back together is actually very touching especially when the drunken brother reminisces about the first night he and his sister spent in the house together and how glad he was they made up, Gatsby and Nick style, just before she died.
The bad; If Margaret and Adele were such good friends why doesn't Adele recognise Margaret's family? Exactly how did Margaret know that someone was attempting to murder her? The idea that her handwriting would be enough to prove that a note is genuine takes some swallowing.
Best line; Adele; "Loneliness leads to nothing good, just detachment" which would have been comfort to Ballard who has rough sex with Mellie even though he knows she's a Doll Mellie; "Are you looking for a Dollhouse client?" Ballard (haunted, looking at himself in the mirror) "I found one" also like Margaret/Echo; "Elmo" Jocelyn; "EMO" Margaret/Echo; "That's not a word sweetie" (her entire character summed up in that sentence)
Packing heat; Margaret doesn't like guns but is quite prepared to riflebutt her son with one. Echo;6 Boyd; 6 Dominic; 7 Sierra; 3 Victor; 2
Echo kissage;1 Echo/Margeret kissed by her son.
Kinky dinky; Incestuous vibe between Margaret and her son, his 'mother's bed' line especially. When the son says that Margaret/Echo "Checked out his body" she doesn't deny it but claims it was 'subconsciously' and she'd had 'too much wine'. He also spies on her voyeuristically through the window knowing her nightime routine and she doesn't appear at all disturbed. Adele is also a voyeur, watching Toper and Sierra. Ballard's violent sex with Mellie borders on rape fantasy. She digs it but doesn't want it all the time (a common reaction amongst most people I think). Echo in jodpurs and riding boots, MMMMMMMMMMMM! Margaret seems a cougar, using the Dollhouse for younger men before getting her own. Sierra seems to fantasise about 'Sexy, sexy aliens' is a she a got-fic fan? (http://www.galaxy-of-terror.com/mainsite/ and taboo.eroticillusions.com/free/taboomain.html if you're over 18 and VERY open minded)
Notches on the Dollhouse bedpost; does Topher have sex with Sierra? Possibly... Echo; 3 definite, 1 possible November; 1 Ballard; 1 Victor; 1 Adele; 1 Sierra 1 possible Topher; 1 possible
How'd they get away with that? The nanny story is HORRIBLE! The son murders his mother plus the incestuous subtext. Even though it's all a game and she get's into it you feel for Mellie being treated so roughly by Ballard. Question is would he have stopped if she'd wanted him to?
This weeks fantasy; A dead woman comes back to witness her own funeral and investigate her own murder. Sierra is a supergeek in a supermodel's body, Victor is a horse expert
Total number personalitites; Echo; 17 Sierra; 8 Victor; 5 November; 2
Total dolls; 6 Echo, Sierra, November, Victor, Mike, Tango
Addy is a bit British; Margaret says Adele would keep a 'Stiff back and stiff upper lip"
Topher is a bit geeky; Huge geekfest right down to lasertag and classic sci-fi debate.
Subverting the Hollywood cliche; The rich turn out to be just like the rest of us only with more money
Capt subtext; Topher fantisises about Adele and Margaret together. Margaret expresses her admiration for Echo's body and even gropes her breasts. Boyd warns of the collapse of civilisation. Ballard feels self loathing at having taken out his frustrations about the case by ravishing Mellie, even if she enjoyed it. Adele puts the mind of her old friend Margaret in Echo, the Doll she has developed an affection for. Adele indulges Topher his fantasy in the knowledge that she allowed herself her tryst with Victor. The sons jealousy of the mother's new young husband is pretty clear.
Know the face? Gregg Henry played a Sheriff in Firefly (and every other show you've ever seen! Check him out on IMDB, 132 credits in 34 years) 6 Whedon alumni-Mark Shepherd, Amy Acker, walking action figure, Eliza Dushku, Jim Piddock, Gregg Henry
Guantanamo; Rather sinisterly Sierra wants to interfere with the other sleeping Dolls and make them fight for each other's amusement. Her idea about having them perform comedy skits is a lot more reassuring. That the Dollhouse is able to remotely cyber-wipe the FBI computer is scary beyond belief.
Fanfic; None for Dollhouse (although they do offer twins) but huge amounts of incestfic on the net, normally Buffy/Joyce/Dawn or the Charmed sisters. (http://buffy.adultfanfiction.net/authors.php?no=7021 and buffy.adultfanfiction.net/authors.php?no=5134 again if you're 18+ and VERY open minded)
Missing scenes; Great scene where Adele and Echo/Margaret look at Margaret's body in the coffin and she complains she doesn't like the dress she's being buried in.
Reminds me off; Topher imprinting Sierra is very Dr Frankenstein right down to the flashing blue lights and his 'It's alive!' schtick. The incestuous subtext is reminiscent of both Oedipus and Hamlet. The whole idea of implanting your memories in a younger person and living forever is reminiscent of an old British horror film 'Nothing but the night' (Christopher Lee is the good guy for once). In Angel we had the father killing the son, here we have the son killing his mother.
Breaking the programming; None this week, very much a standalone ep but a pretty good one
Questions and observations; Adele is clearly dismayed at the thought of how people would remember her if she died, she's ashamed of the Dollhouse or just thinks people wouldn't understand? She states that 'Illusions aren't pointless. Note Topher doesn't just want a sex slave, the girl he creates for his birthday is sparky and challenging, beating him at lasertag. Call me a sap but I was really touched by the ending, despite all appearances to the contrary Margaret was loved by her brother and daughter and is able to tell them that she loved them in return from beyond the grave, the uncle and niece are reunited and are a loving family once again. Is Margaret really living on? The real Margaret died with her body, surely it's only a copy in Echo? It reminds me of Sheldon's question about the Star Trek transporter, are you really transported or does the real you die and a clone assembled at the other end? When Ballard looks up Novembers prints she seems to have multipile identities, her Dollhouse characters or was she some sort of identity thief? Is it really Eliza on the horse? Adele holds Margaret's hand as she is wiped, does she experience Margaret's life as well?