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Post by diabeticdude202 on Aug 26, 2009 16:55:42 GMT -5
can someone please explain to me the so called "hints" in the issues that could even possibly lead to Xander/Dawn. I have got the issues, but I just don't see what you're all talking about.
So, if someone could explain it to me, or tell me what to look out for on the issue, then that'd be great! XD
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Aug 26, 2009 16:57:33 GMT -5
Buffy thought Xander wanted to marry Dawn?
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Post by Emmie on Aug 26, 2009 17:29:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I know that in the Buffyverse when the going gets tough, the tough get naked. Just seems like kind of a silly organization of priorities, sometimes. Imminent death leads to wanting to desperately clutch at life. SEX. Basic human mechanics here.
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Post by wenxina on Aug 26, 2009 17:32:10 GMT -5
Finals do that too...
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Post by CowboyGuy on Aug 26, 2009 17:53:57 GMT -5
Xander and Dawn just doesn't make me happy. Previously, all other hook-ups and relationships have made me glad or made some sense. This just doesn't.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Aug 26, 2009 18:17:08 GMT -5
I'm not wanting Xander and Dawn to happen, but it could work. I mean, they have been leading up to it pretty much the entire season. One could say it started all the way back in issue 2 when Xander consoled/questioned Dawn while she was bathing. Xander and Dawn being caught by Buffy makes the most sense story-wise, a little too obvious perhaps, so maybe that's what we'd expect but it'll turn out to be something else. Buffy thought Xander wanted to marry Dawn? In All the Way I think. Anya and Dawn we're doing the money dance and Xander mentioned "marrying that girl" and Buffy said something like, "What?! She's 16 and my sister so don't you... Oh."
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Post by buffyfan21 on Aug 26, 2009 18:40:57 GMT -5
While I have no problem with Xander/Dawn, I am a little concerned about the potential fallout this could cause. I would hate to see a rift between Buffy/Xander or Buffy/Dawn, which is inevitably going to happen. Yes, Dawn is older now, but I don't see Buffy reacting to it any more favorably, quite frankly. It doesn't matter that Dawn has matured into quite the young woman, to Buffy she will always be the "kid sister." And what if Buffy's poor reaction has to do with the fact that she also has feelings for Xander? Whether she is consciously aware of these feelings or not, I can't say. What I do know is that we have seen Buffy have dreams of an intimate nature involving Xander, and the reason behind those dreams has still yet to be addressed. Maybe Buffy reacts negatively not just b/c Dawn is her baby sister, but also b/c of her own jealousy (which she herself may not be completely aware of). Either way, a hook up between Xander and Dawn is the last thing Buffy would expect. Perhaps this revelation will force Buffy to acknowledge her own changing feelings for Xander, pitting both sisters against one another in a competition vying for Xander's affection (it wasn't pretty when they did it with RJ, it won't be pretty now). This is all just silly speculation on my part, but who knows, I could be on to something.
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Post by wytchcroft on Aug 27, 2009 22:48:42 GMT -5
While I have no problem with Xander/Dawn, I am a little concerned about the potential fallout this could cause. I would hate to see a rift between Buffy/Xander or Buffy/Dawn, which is inevitably going to happen. i don't see why - i mean, i think it would be very in-character of Buffy to be accepting of this. Xander doesn't hang around with thrice wises and he's known as 'a good guy'. Xander and Dawn have been paired off throughout Season 8 (even further if you count S7 and the taser ride), so it seems natural enough to me. (Except for Renee, but hey, none of the writers seem to remember her - and neither does Xander!) Doesn't feel shocking enough to warrant the term so either the next issue will feel like an anti-climax or X/D is not the spoil - my money's on a betrayal of some kind. can someone please explain to me the so called "hints" in the issues that could even possibly lead to Xander/Dawn. I have got the issues, but I just don't see what you're all talking about. So, if someone could explain it to me, or tell me what to look out for on the issue, then that'd be great! XD Dude, there's been entendre and subtext hinty-ness since the get go - they have shared a helluva lot of comic space!
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Post by buffyfan21 on Aug 28, 2009 13:38:54 GMT -5
While I have no problem with Xander/Dawn, I am a little concerned about the potential fallout this could cause. I would hate to see a rift between Buffy/Xander or Buffy/Dawn, which is inevitably going to happen. i don't see why - i mean, i think it would be very in-character of Buffy to be accepting of this. Xander doesn't hang around with thrice wises and he's known as 'a good guy'. Yes, Xander is a good guy, definitely no argument there. Still, a part of me thinks that she will be less than thrilled about the two of them being together. I mean, it's bound to be a little weird for her seeing her best friend and little sister involved with one another. I think it will be a shock to her because it is the last thing she would expect to happen. Who knows though, maybe Buffy's reaction will surprise us all. Either way, can't wait for this issue! Buffy thought Xander wanted to marry Dawn? In All the Way I think. Anya and Dawn we're doing the money dance and Xander mentioned "marrying that girl" and Buffy said something like, "What?! She's 16 and my sister so don't you... Oh." Of course, maybe her reaction would be different now that Dawn is older, but who knows... I got to thinking, Dawn and Xander being close isn't exactly a new development. Even back in S7 you could see how close these two were. The fact that they have always bonded over being the two non-supernatural ones in the group, it kinda makes sense that them becoming romantically involved now that Dawn is older and more mature and wiser, would be the next logical progression in their relationship. Both Xander and Dawn have suffered heavy losses in the relationship department this season, so it is not a stretch that they would gravitate to each other in that way. Both have been hurt and have turned to one another for comfort and support. They really do have more in common than people realize. It's understandable that Xander would be seeing Dawn in a different light, she is no longer the kid sister, after all. Besides, Dawn did always have a thing for Xander. I think she is able to empathize and relate to him in a way that others cannot.
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Post by skippcomet on Aug 28, 2009 15:09:36 GMT -5
The thing to remember about ships in the Buffyverse, though, is that people's visions of what a ship "will" or "should be" like are often overidealized by the shipper in favor of how "happily ever after" they expect the ship to be, or that the point of the 'ship is expected to be either the 'ship itself or how the 'shipper expects one character to be "rewarded" and the other character to exist mainly to "reward" the other character -- and usually, that's when 'shippers get disgruntled or pissed off, because the 'ship as it develops often deviates from their vision of it.
As a fan of Xander, I've seen far too many 'shippers of W/X, C/X, and A/X come down on the side of being in it mainly for how happy or rewarding or whatever they want out of it for Willow, Cordelia, or Anya, with the view of Xander being mostly about "what he's supposed to do," which is usually "exist soley for" whoever they ship him with. And frankly, I'm seeing a bit much of the same attitude in D/X shippers across the net. I"m not saying this is a descripton of all 'shippers of all 'ships -- but it's a trend I've seen enough times across a number of 'ships involving Xander where Xander's purpose for existing is supposed to Character L, M, N, O, or P's boyfriend, and deviation or distraction from that gets viewed as a failing on Xander's part to understand that his role in the universe is to fit inside the 'shipper's box for him.
I want to pose a question for all those certain of D/X -- how high are your expectations for it to be a long-term, ultimately successful 'ship? How would you react if it isn't? I really would like to know what people's expectations are.
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Post by buffyfan21 on Aug 28, 2009 17:44:01 GMT -5
I want to pose a question for all those certain of D/X -- how high are your expectations for it to be a long-term, ultimately successful 'ship? How would you react if it isn't? I really would like to know what people's expectations are. I don't know if they will last (because, let's face it, Xander's relationships never do ), but I do think it will be interesting to see these two together. If things do inevitably fall apart though, I would hate to see these guys estranged from one another, because they have such a beautiful friendship/relationship. Not to mention how a breakup would effect the overall group dynamic. Plus there's the fact that any woman Xander gets involved tends to die (so hope this won't be the case for Dawn)! Boy, my argument makes it sound like the two of them getting together spells all kinds of badness, but hopefully the good would far outweigh the bad. Over all, I think these two would be cute/fun together, and that it is a relationship worth exploring.
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Post by richie on Aug 31, 2009 0:48:33 GMT -5
i just cant see them together.... ditto to buffy/xander... i can see them sleppeing together(b/x) as a honestly mistake... but dawn??? it just feels wrong in every way for me... they said that we'll want to kill them after #30... the only think that would made me do that... is if they put xander as twilight, and dawn betraying buffy to be with him... that would be the bigger jumo the shark i ever seem... hahaha
so please, dont put them together...
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Post by The Girl In Question on Aug 31, 2009 1:40:32 GMT -5
i just cant see them together.... ditto to buffy/xander... i can see them sleppeing together(b/x) as a honestly mistake... but dawn??? it just feels wrong in every way for me... they said that we'll want to kill them after #30... the only think that would made me do that... is if they put xander as twilight, and dawn betraying buffy to be with him... that would be the bigger jumo the shark i ever seem... hahaha so please, dont put them together... I agree. Yuck to both Buffy/Xander and Dawn/Xander >.<
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Post by wytchcroft on Aug 31, 2009 20:08:55 GMT -5
LOL! Could be worse... Dawn/Riley anyone...? ^^
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Post by wenxina on Aug 31, 2009 20:09:45 GMT -5
Let's not get too crazy here...
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Post by Rebecca on Sept 1, 2009 2:01:34 GMT -5
I agree. Yuck to both Buffy/Xander and Dawn/Xander >.< Mmmm.... Buffy/Xander....
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Post by wenxina on Sept 1, 2009 8:36:25 GMT -5
So... it's the Tuesday before the release... meaning that today is the last day for extended previews to pop-up. Everyone keep an eye out. Whedonesque is usually the easiest coz you don't have to work at it, but if anyone has a few minutes to kill, trawl the usual suspects. Newsarama usually has the most comprehensive previews - usually at least 5 pages of interiors, but perhaps CBR or Comics Continuum may score one this time around. Or maybe there won't be an extended preview this time around because every page is a major spoiler... this is afterall the 3rd issue of the arc. Look sharp!
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Sept 1, 2009 9:08:04 GMT -5
Maybe page 3 is the one with Xander and Dawn...
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Post by loveisabird on Sept 1, 2009 17:23:23 GMT -5
ii dont know of its just me, but i'm thinkin the shocking relationship thing seen by another character could be oz and willow seen by kennedy : / which id be non pleased with, especially with willow's numerous claims of being gay.
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Post by Wyndam on Sept 1, 2009 17:46:17 GMT -5
With Oz married and a father, and Willow not showing any interest in men in over 5 years, I just don't see any future for Oz and Willow.
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