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Post by watcher on Sept 2, 2009 15:54:33 GMT -5
So i spoiled myself, Xander and Dawn ( i refuse to call them Dander), gotta say, Yay! What?! EW!!!!!!!!!! Ugh I'm just getting more and more disappointed with this series. Again Ewwwwwwwwwwwww
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Post by butters on Sept 2, 2009 16:11:44 GMT -5
I think Xander and Dawn are cute together, i love it! ![:)](http://premium1.uploadit.org/Flipsidephilly/emotes/smile.gif) Its Buffy and Xander that i never liked the thought of
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Post by Smashed on Sept 2, 2009 16:26:24 GMT -5
Wow --- Dawn and Xander.
I don't know what to say except that I'm totally repulsed by this pairing. I don't understand the point of bringing in Renee just to kill her off so that Xander can be with Dawn. For that matter, why was Anya killed off and never mentioned?
I think I'm completely done with these "Season 8" comics. I'm sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but the original BtVS comic-run had better stories than this. Overall, I'm just totally displeased with season eight. I loved it so much until TOYL. Since then, it's all gone downhill, IMO.
I'm going to go back to reading my original comic TPBs. Remember when there was a time where characters that were vital to the series actually got menioned (Anya, Tara, etc.)?
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Post by jellymoff on Sept 2, 2009 16:41:47 GMT -5
I can understand some of the initial gross reactions to Dander (yes I'm sticking with that), but I think the pairing makes sense, based on their overall history together couple with the current dire situation. Some may say "He's like a brother to her", but that's exactly it, he's not her brother. They are both adults who have been through a lot together. I think this may be the one couple that actually lasts (or at least no one dies).
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Post by wytchcroft on Sept 2, 2009 17:09:26 GMT -5
Can i just add that i hope people are catching on to the fact that the 'Mole' plot proves that the supposed continuity glitch with Andrew, Warren and the First was no such thing. I dunno if King Of Cretins posts here but kudos for the whedonesque comment.
And no, i have no problem with dawn/xander except for how pointless Renee seems to have been.
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Post by bishopcruz on Sept 2, 2009 17:18:37 GMT -5
I just thought that the thing was pretty obvious, just hope they do a bit more with the Buffy/Xander vibes that seemed huge in this issue, but when it opened early with the scenes, it seemed pretty damn certain that it would be Dander.
Now hopefully, we can get some industrial strength Selson Blue and wash this Dander clean off, very, very soon.
Wondering if this will be lead in to a bit of a triangle, but kinda doubt it. Joss has a history of putting B/X on the table, hinting at it, then unceremoniously dumping it.
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Post by patxshand on Sept 2, 2009 17:22:23 GMT -5
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Post by neowhobaz on Sept 2, 2009 17:22:34 GMT -5
I liked how andrew inadvertantly narrowed the pool of people twilight could be.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Sept 2, 2009 18:12:24 GMT -5
I just finished reading and will post more a bit later when I have time, but...
You guys do realize the person now claiming to be Willow is actually Amy in disguise. Right?
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Post by CowboyGuy on Sept 2, 2009 18:15:53 GMT -5
I just finished reading and will post more a bit later when I have time, but... You guys do realize the person now claiming to be Willow is actually Amy in disguise. Right? Twist major. I am reeling from that... I'll post my review to the blog soon!!
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Post by neowhobaz on Sept 2, 2009 18:25:58 GMT -5
Wait I thought Amy was the cat that teleported away? if Willow is Amy then who was the cat?
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Post by patxshand on Sept 2, 2009 19:01:49 GMT -5
You guys do realize the person now claiming to be Willow is actually Amy in disguise. Right? Huh?
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Post by Wyndam on Sept 2, 2009 19:20:38 GMT -5
Amy definitely did not turn into Willow. She was just the cat the whole time. Andrew just lost track of Willow and the baby when he went back to film himself at his art board. Amy didn't switch places with Willow during that time, and the ending made it pretty clear that Amy teleported away when Andrew was about to "make" her, to go tell Twilight.
I'll post more on the issue later, but I absolutely loved it. Some of the best character moments in a loooooooong time and one of the best issues of the season.
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Post by Emmie on Sept 2, 2009 19:23:35 GMT -5
You guys do realize the person now claiming to be Willow is actually Amy in disguise. Right? What?
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Post by Rebecca on Sept 2, 2009 19:43:21 GMT -5
Now hopefully, we can get some industrial strength Selson Blue and wash this Dander clean off, very, very soon. QFT. I'm wondering if Buffy was speechless because her best friend was making with her baby sister, or if she felt like a potential lover was "cheating" on her. If the latter, I would be happy just seeing Buffy realize she's in love with Xander.
JOSS!!!!!! Why do you bait me with Bander over and over just to break my little shipper heart?!?!?
You guys do realize the person now claiming to be Willow is actually Amy in disguise. Right?
Um, no. I didn't get that, nor do I think that is true. Amy was the cat, which was unceremoniously listening in to a number of conversations throughout the issue.
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Post by Joe on Sept 2, 2009 20:13:44 GMT -5
Wow --- Dawn and Xander. I don't know what to say except that I'm totally repulsed by this pairing. I don't understand the point of bringing in Renee just to kill her off so that Xander can be with Dawn. For that matter, why was Anya killed off and never mentioned? I think I'm completely done with these "Season 8" comics. I'm sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but the original BtVS comic-run had better stories than this. Overall, I'm just totally displeased with season eight. I loved it so much until TOYL. Since then, it's all gone downhill, IMO. I'm going to go back to reading my original comic TPBs. Remember when there was a time where characters that were vital to the series actually got menioned (Anya, Tara, etc.)? If you're saying there's no point to Renee since she just got killed off, then there was no point to Xander/Anya. Which is completely wrong. Renee was used as a character development for Xander and gave his character something to do in the first quarter of the season. Anya was mentioned by Andrew in Wolves at the Gate so it's not like she goes without mention. That's actually the reason Xander lived with Dracula for awhile between seasons 7 and 8. To grieve for Anya. Tara's also mentioned a few times in the season.. most prominently in "Anywhere But Here". They're mentioned in this season as much as, for example, Joyce was mentioned in the last couple seasons. Tara was only mentioned in around 4 or 5 episode of Season 7 and that was less than a year after her death.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Sept 2, 2009 20:49:11 GMT -5
I loved the Buffy/Faith interaction. This is probably the most genuinely close they've ever been, so yay for that.
And Leah and Rowena are back, and even got to say stuff. So yay for that too.
Willow's abrupt change in attitude didn't ring true to me at all. Her feelings were far too intense and complex to be mollified that simply and easily. And her reaction to Buffy's confession about killing her in the future was just bizarre. Didn't understand any of that, and I didn't understand why Willow was smiling at the end when she said Twilight had found them.
What was the "secret" Andrew mentioned that he had at the end? That the cat was Amy? If so, why did Amy choose that moment to teleport away? She had no reason yet to think Andrew had found her out. Furthermore, Andrew would have no reason to suspect the cat (any more than he suspected the dog, at least.) The cat was only present during the Buffy/Faith and Willow/Oz conversations.
If I were Amy, I'd switch places with Willow, then make the cat disappear to misdirect everyone into thinking it had been me.
But who knows?
In any case, they're about to get smeared. The Xander/Dawn romance guarantees that one of them will die this season, but it also guarantees one of them will survive in order to grieve.
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Post by patxshand on Sept 2, 2009 21:23:37 GMT -5
Is it possible that Willow is Amy? Well, in a story that has Mecha Dawn, anything is possible, I suppose. But there is nothing in the issue to suggest that, much less to have as definitive a comment as "You guys do realize the person now claiming to be Willow is actually Amy in disguise. Right?"
Really interesting interpretation (though I don't think Willow was smiling at all in the last panel), but it would cheape the issue a lot, and I can't see that happening at all. It appeared to be the cat, and thus, I think it's the cat.
But it really should have been the puppy. How could they miss that opportunity to pay off Andrew's joke if they knew they were gonna have it be a pet?
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Post by wenxina on Sept 2, 2009 21:33:22 GMT -5
But it really should have been the puppy. How could they miss that opportunity to pay off Andrew's joke if they knew they were gonna have it be a pet? They didn't miss the opportunity... it was the pet... but everyone knows that cats are evil! ![:)](http://premium1.uploadit.org/Flipsidephilly/emotes/smile.gif)
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Post by patxshand on Sept 2, 2009 21:36:41 GMT -5
But it really should have been the puppy. How could they miss that opportunity to pay off Andrew's joke if they knew they were gonna have it be a pet? They didn't miss the opportunity... it was the pet... but everyone knows that cats are evil! ![:)](http://premium1.uploadit.org/Flipsidephilly/emotes/smile.gif) Cats are definitely evil, unless they're LOLCats or named Lucifer. BUT it still should have been the dodgy puppy.
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