Saturn 5
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Post by Saturn 5 on Oct 31, 2009 18:49:48 GMT -5
Just discussing this on Buffytube. I mean he's rich, famous, handsome (even Willow thinks so), evil, bites her in her sexy nightie, her mum even likes him as does Xander, could Drac have assumed the Spike roles in the later seasons? He'd have come in pretty useful with all his tricks as indeed he does in the comics
Come to think of it, what exactly do we think happened between Buffy and Drac in her bed when the camera pulled back? Should we count him as one of her lovers? And what about him and Joyce?
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Post by willowsummers on Nov 2, 2009 10:39:49 GMT -5
It seems like a nice thing to write a fan fic short story of, but I can't see it really happening in the show. Props for the fantasy though.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Nov 2, 2009 11:42:01 GMT -5
..... I.... lovers? In case they did anything in the bed it was rape. And Xander was also thralled, and probably Joyce(she can't be dumb enough to invite such a pale dude that speaks that way). So I gotta say NOOOOOO! to the whole idea (but I think Buffy would have shown signs of having been thralled to have sex with Dracula.... that is if she could remember it.) But hey, Spike was a murderer/rapist(or pro-rapist, whichever) and through sweet/dirtytalk he got into Buffy's pants. But while Spike was considered harmless enough to have around I doubt the scoobies would have been reckless enough to have a non-shipped brain-washing murderer nearby. But hey, I never thought Buffy would sleep with Spike. Maybe if Dracula had made a move on Buffy when she was depressed and suicidal like Spike did, he'd have a shoot.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 2, 2009 15:13:28 GMT -5
I don't know i rather like the idea of them together, like RJ, the Immortal and the Shadowmen's demon I put him down as a probable for Buffy. Or do we believe Spike built the Buffybot to play chequers with?
Of course if you read the comics you don't wonder so much about Dracula and Buffy/Joyce as we do Dracula and Xander?
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Nov 2, 2009 15:17:03 GMT -5
Is that a joke?
Shadowmen's demon? As a dating possibility?
And what does us believing Spike played checkers with the Buffybot has to do with anything?
I'm tired, so I might be missing something obvious.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 3, 2009 12:47:43 GMT -5
Is that a joke? Shadowmen's demon? As a dating possibility? And what does us believing Spike played checkers with the Buffybot has to do with anything? I'm tired, so I might be missing something obvious. Not a dating possibility but a sexual partner. Rewatch the scene where Buffy gets "Knocked up by the demon dust" and tell me what you think? As for the comics it's the homo-erotic subtext between Xander and his master that I was referring to, something Xander's ex-girlfriend Renee certainly picked up on
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Post by The Girl In Question on Nov 3, 2009 14:12:08 GMT -5
Shadowmen's demon? I don't remember what that is. It could be that I'm at school and extremely tired, but I'm confused, too lol.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Nov 3, 2009 14:29:47 GMT -5
I remember that line, "knocked up by the demon dust" but I have no idea from where. Is it the scene where the demon-spirit get's into her mouth? Because I can't see them getting together later on, talking about how they got abused by the shadowmen over tea.
And girlinquestion, the shadowmen's demon is from Get It Done. I thought it was the one they left in exchange first, but now I wonder if it was the spirit-one.
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Post by The Girl In Question on Nov 3, 2009 15:32:02 GMT -5
^^Oh, I see, now
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 4, 2009 14:04:23 GMT -5
Yes, Get it Done. Just watch the scene, the demon penetrating down Buffy's mouth and under her skirt both at the front and back whilst she moans, groans, gasps, shudders and writhes whilst straining against her chains. She looks like a porn star faking it. Just watch the scene, you'll see what I mean
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Nov 4, 2009 14:35:20 GMT -5
Well, a lot of people talk about that scene as a methpor for rape. The shadowmen forced something into Buffy, something inhuman, and the visual images provided, the smoke going into her mouth(I didn't notice it going in anywhere else) definitly make me agree. But I only remember pure panic from her side, it went into her mouth, then she "screamed it out". But it was a while since I saw that scene.
*watching the scene twice*
I see how one could see it as sexual iviolation, instead of just a violation, but I doubt the demon-dust can even be aroused, or that it has a mind, or that the shadowmen enjoyed it, or that Buffy did (unless she's kinky, which is possible). Buffy seemed more to struggle to get it out of her, not to stop her being raped.
I see no future possibilites for Buffy and the dust "getting it on", since I doubt the dust was anything more than pure demonic power, that couldn't wish to violate Buffy. It does make me think of hentauri/tentacle/manga art tough, but those creatures have a mind.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 5, 2009 13:30:08 GMT -5
I see no future possibilites for Buffy and the dust "getting it on", since I doubt the dust was anything more than pure demonic power, that couldn't wish to violate Buffy. It does make me think of hentauri/tentacle/manga art tough, but those creatures have a mind. Yeah it borders on GOT fic which is normally CC's job. And I never thought of Buffy and the demon as lovers but sexual partners (her an unwilling one) there is difference. You could also argue that Buffy is made stronger by it penetrating her, it now gives her the power to break her chains (or they were loosened by her 'crescendo' another metaphor for female sexual power)
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