FLOODED; nerds and financial responsibility

[Saturn 5]

Currently reviewing CARPE NOCTEM on the Angel part of the forum so please pop by

FLOODED
The Good;
Special marks to MT for her wonderful acting when Dawn gets soaked, cracks me up every time. Love Buffy at the bank and the Nerds rear their heads. Wonderful Buffy/Giles scene.
The Bad;
Why does the demon need the Nerds help to find Buffy? How can Warren appease them by offering Buffy's address, it's not like she's that hard to find.
Best line;
Dawn; "That's a weird place for a horn" (adopting Willow's bashful virgin shtick)
Women good/men bad;
Warren shows his true colours, giving the demon Buffy's address. Warren, Jonathon and Andrew are prepared to sacrifice each other to the demon.
Jeez!;
Kinky dinky;
As well as 'Chicks, chicks, chicks' one of the Nerds ambitions is 'hypnotise Buffy' and turn her into their 'willing sex bunny' a staple of some of the creepier fanfiction out there (The Erotic Mind Control Archive anyone?)Jonathon thinks Buffy is hot. Andrew seems to fancy Christina Ricci but Warren refuses to build him a robot version. Willow hints she slept with Riley.
Captain Subtext;
Guantanamo Bay;
Scoobies to the ER;
Missing scenes;
Apocalypses; 6 Buffy says that saving the world is something she's good at unlike finances
Wheldon Cliches (with kind permission from Boo)

Scoobies in bondage:
Buffy: 8
Giles: 4
Cordy: 5
Will: 3
Jenny: 1
Angel: 4
Oz: 1
Faith: 3
Joyce: 1
Wes: 1
Xander; 1
Dawn; 3

Scoobies knocked out: as Giles comments he knows he's back in America when he gets knocked unconscious.
Buffy: 16
Giles: 11
Cordy: 6
Xander: 9
Will: 5
Jenny: 2
Angel: 6
Oz: 3
Faith: 1
Joyce: 3
Wes: 1
Anya;2
Dawn; 1
Kills: 1 demon for Buffy
Buffy: 96 vamps, 37 demons, 6 monsters, 3 humans, 1 werewolf, 1 spirit warrior & a robot
Giles: 5 vamps, 2 demon, 1 human, 1 god.
Cordy: 3 vamps, ½ a demon
Will: 6 vamps + 1 demon +1 fawn.
Angel: 3 vamps, 1 demon, 1 human
Oz: 3 vamps, 1 zombie
Faith: 16 vamps, 5 demons, 3 humans
Xander: 5 vamps, 2 zombies, 1½ a demon,
Anya: 1 vamp and 1½ a demon
Riley; 18 vamps + 7 demons
Spike; 3 vamps and 2 demon
Buffybot; 2 vamps
Tara; 1 demon

Scoobies go evil:
Giles: 1
Cordy: 1
Will: 2
Jenny: 1
Angel: 1
Oz: 1
Joyce: 1
Xander: 4
Anya; 1
Dawn; 1

Alternate scoobies:
Buffy: 6
Giles: 3
Cordy: 1
Will: 2
Jenny: 2
Angel: 3
Oz: 2
Joyce: 2
Xander: 3

Recurring characters killed: 10
Jesse, Flutie, Jenny, Kendra, Larry, Snyder, Professor Walsh, Forrest, McNamara, Joyce

Sunnydale deaths;
89;

Total number of scoobies: 7, Giles back, Dawn helps with research for the first time but doesn't help with the demon fighting so we'll not include her just yet.
Xander, Willow, Buffy, Anya, Tara, Spike, Giles

Xander demon magnet: 5(6?)
Preying Mantis Lady, Inca Mummy Girl, Drusilla, VampWillow, Anya (arguably Buffy & Faith with their demon essences?), Dracula?

Scoobies shot:
Giles: 2
Angel: 3
Oz: 4
Riley; 1

Notches on Scooby bedpost:
Giles: 2; Joyce & Olivia, possibly Jenny and 3xDraccy babes?
Cordy: 1?
Buffy: 3 confirmed; Angel, Parker,Riley, 1 possible, Dracula(?)
Angel: 1;Buffy
Joyce: 1;Giles, 2 possible, Ted and Dracula(?)
Oz: 3; Groupie, Willow & Verucca
Faith:2 ;Xander, Riley
Xander: 2; Faith, Anya
Willow: 2;Oz and Tara
Riley; 3; Buffy, Sandy and unnamed vampwhore
Spike; good or bad?
Spike 'jokes' about killing the Scoobies.
Dawn in peril;
I figure at least 4 times so far.
Dawn the bashful virgin; 1
Questions and observations;
What the hell is 'The gorilla thing' the nerds want to do? Buffy tells the security guard that guns are never useful forshadowing the events at the end of the season as do Willow's hints to Giles that he shouldn't annoy her. Anya's idea of charging for Slaying is silly but couldn't Buffy rob the vamps/demons as well as killing them?
So, big question, what do Buffy and Angel get up to during their reunion? Well, not sex as Angel keeps his soul but you wonder? Dawn is now 15, the same age as Buffy was before she became the Slayer. She compares the supernatural to sex as she says that if she doesn't learn it from Buffy and co she'll learn it all on the street. Jetpacks are one of the Nerds aims which they'll eventually achieve. Giles comments that there are others who can bring back the dead as we see from WR&H in 'To Shanshu in LA'. Dawn wears another number t-shirt.
Marks out of 10; 6/10 good enough but not great

[gumgnome]

I'm a fan of this episode because it adds some much-needed levity to the situation after the consistent downer of the initial brace. The Giles/Buffy reunion is one of the sweetest moments of the whole show - it's just a shame that he'll decide to leave after such a short time (not that he's not right to).

It has some wonderful dialogue. I particularly like the M'Fashnik pronounciation exchange between Xander and Dawn, and later Giles. Buffy's lines as she slays the demon in the flooded basement are also priceless, and show how the strain is already upon her.

I always find it strange that I didn't immediately single out Warren as the 'evil' member of the Trio the first time I watched until "Dead Things", but upon re-watching, the signs are really clear right from the beginning. Anyone else find this?

[Saturn 5]

Oh the signs are there right from IWMTLY, the fact that it causes April pain when she doesn't answer him and his telling her that Buffy is her girlfiriend

[gumgnome]

Nov 25, 2009 4:37:00 GMT -5 Saturn 5 said:

Oh the signs are there right from IWMTLY, the fact that it causes April pain when she doesn't answer him and his telling her that Buffy is her girlfiriend

Very true - he is a sadistic weasel from the beginning.

[Saturn 5]

You wonder if he could have turned out differently? Read plenty of fanfic where things work out differently and the Nerds become the heroes of Sunnydale?

[Randi Giles]

Yay, I guess the premiere of the nerds. Who knows what the hell the gorilla thing is. I still crack on the beginning with Dawn and all the water too. Not much really goign on in the first couple episode of Buffy this season between Bargaining and OMWF. 6/10

Edit - By the way how come Warren just happen to have Buffy's information in his pocket?

[Saturn 5]

Because they're already planning to hypnotise her into their willing sex bunny?