HIM-jackets, jailbait, jealousy and juvenile lust

[joxerlives]

HIM

The Good;
ALL OF IT! Just wonderful, love it to death, amongst many favourite bits have to be Dawn falling off the audience stands, Dawn's lapdance, Dawn's catfight, Buffy seducing RJ, the split-screen stuff, Spike and Buffy wrestling over the rocket launcher, Buffy subtly screwing Dawn over for RJ's affections, Xander's KISS plan for getting the jacket back, the list goes on!
The Bad;
Nada, it's all terrific! Actually rather stupid that D'Hoffryn has just 'changed his mind' and now wants Anya killed. BUT he might have just wanted her to suffer for a while or might be in league with The First? Then again the demon might be sent by someone else Anya wronged now that D'Hoffryn no longer protects her?
Best line;
Xander (reminding Spike of their 'plan') "Grab it!"
Women good/men bad;
RJ's dad used his enchanted jacket to seduce the girls (in fairness to RJ and his brother they don't know that, they just think they're popular because they're goodlooking football stars). One question that occurs, 23 year old teaching assistant Buffy seduces 16 year old RJ (statuatory rape in California) and it's every schoolboy's fantasy. Imagine if that was Dawn and a male staff member, what would we think?
Jeez!;
I know it's hysterically funny and a little bit sexy but Dawn's cheerleading routine just makes me cringe, you feel for her every time. Which of us haven't embarassed ourselves trying to impress the object of our affections? You also feel bad for Buffy when a distraught Dawn cuts up her outfit. Buffy implies that Joyce would be ashamed to see how Dawn is acting but rapidly realises that this is a step too far and takes it back. Then again when you look at Buffy and Spike and 'teenage' Joyce and Ripper on the hood of the police car in 'Band Candy' you wonder if she'd actually be shocked at all? Maybe it runs in the Summer's family?
Kinky dinky;
Dawn in a cheerleader costume (Xander hopes Buffy get's a new one), giving RJ a lapdance then has a great big girly catfight complete with hair pulling, scratching and rolling around on top of one another. Buffy puts on her plaid schoolgirl skirt (to make herself look younger?) and get's it on with RJ on the school desk. Buffy describes Dawn as a slut-bag/hussy and thinks should go down to the docks and wait for the fleet to come in. Is that how she supported herself in LA prior to getting her waitress job in 'Anne'? Or maybe why she no longer seems to need to work at the DMP despite her counsellor job only being part time? (for the cheap seats I am IN NO WAY serious! Any more than I am about Willow and Cordy being gay because they were 'in the closet' together in School Hard or the bleached blonde Wes has sex with in season 2 is actually Spike. Just fun to speculate wildly. Then again Willow was gay and I always said that Joyce and Ripper had sex in Band Candy and was proven right?) Buffy almost seems to indulge in ahem, self-stimulation when RJ walks away for the first time after putting the whammy on her. Xander thinks back nostalgically to the events of 'Bewitched, bothered and bewildered', nice to see Jenny, Joyce and human Harmony again (and the last time we'll see CC in any way on Buffy). Xander smiles at the memory of BBB, Willow looks uncomfortable whilst Anya gives a little look of jealousy. Xander confesses a sexual attraction to Dawn but feels guilty about it (although he says he misses when Dawn used to have a crush on him). Weirdly he says 'Daddy likes' even after he told Warren off for a similar phrase. Buffy says Snyder was always 'on her' and 'riding her'. Buffy alludes to porn star Anna Nicole Smith. Dawn thinks Buffy is hot and is seemingly envious that she has 'sex that's rough'.
Captain Subtext;
In a riposte to the evidence for being Bi Willow wants to turn RJ into a girl so she can love him. Then again Willow says her attraction isn't about physical presence which is interesting when you think of her later comments to Kennedy that she fell in love with 'A woman rather than women'. When Anya points out that RJ's 'physical prescence has a penis' Willow says she can work around it. Like Xander she confesses a sexual attraction to Dawn 'Right there with you buddy!". Spike is meanwhile back in the closet, at Xanders? RJ's brother was worried that he found poetry under his younger brother's bed. Spike seems fascinated by the 'Angel' figurines at Lance's house.
Guantanamo Bay;
Scoobies to the ER;
Missing scenes;
Apocalypses; 7,
Wheldon Cliches (with kind permission from Boo)

Scoobies in bondage: unless Buffy and RJ got up to some?
Buffy: 8
Giles: 4
Cordy: 5
Will: 4
Jenny: 1
Angel: 4
Oz: 1
Faith: 3
Joyce: 1
Wes: 1
Xander; 2
Dawn; 4

Scoobies knocked out:
Buffy: 19
Giles: 12
Cordy: 6
Xander: 14
Will: 8
Jenny: 2
Angel: 6
Oz: 3
Faith: 1
Joyce: 3
Wes: 1
Anya;5
Dawn; 4
Tara; 1
Kills: one demon for Buffy at Anya's
Buffy: 109 vamps, 62 demons, 6 monsters, 3 humans, 1 werewolf, 1 spirit warrior & a robot
Giles: 8 vamps, 2 demon, 1 human, 1 god.
Cordy: 3 vamps, ½ a demon
Will: 6 vamps + 3 demons +1 fawn+1 human.
Angel: 3 vamps, 1 demon, 1 human
Oz: 3 vamps, 1 zombie
Faith: 16 vamps, 5 demons, 3 humans
Xander: 6 vamps, 2 zombies, 1½ a demon,
Anya: 1 vamp and 1½ a demon
Riley; 18 vamps + 7 demons
Spike; 8 vamps and 6 demons
Buffybot; 2 vamps
Tara; 1 demon
Dawn; 1 vamp + 1 demon

Scoobies go evil: not evil but mad with lust certainly
Giles: 1
Cordy: 1
Will: 3
Jenny: 1
Angel: 1
Oz: 1
Joyce: 1
Xander: 4
Anya; 1
Dawn; 1
Buffy; 1

Alternate scoobies:
Buffy: 8
Giles: 4
Cordy: 1
Will: 5
Jenny: 2
Angel: 3
Oz: 2
Joyce: 2
Xander: 4
Tara; 1
Dawn;1
Spike; 1
Anya; 2

Recurring characters killed: 12
Jesse, Flutie, Jenny, Kendra, Larry, Snyder, Professor Walsh, Forrest, McNamara, Joyce, Katrina, Tara

Sunnydale deaths;
99

Total number of scoobies: 6, Anya and Spike back in the fold
Xander, Buffy, Dawn, Willow, Anya, Spike

Xander demon magnet: 5(6?)
Preying Mantis Lady, Inca Mummy Girl, Drusilla, VampWillow, Anya (arguably Buffy & Faith with their demon essences?), Dracula?

Scoobies shot: Buffy produces the rocket launcher Xander procured for her in 'Innocence'. You can't help but think that might have been useful against Glory and Adam and especially The Beast which AI are currently battling.
Giles: 2
Angel: 3
Oz: 4
Riley; 1
Buffy; 1
Tara; 1

Notches on Scooby bedpost: so exactly how far does Buffy go with RJ? Her blouse is off, her bra is on, she's straddling him but we've no idea what's going on beneath the skirt for either of them or what happened before Xander interrupted? Come to think of it Xander tells her to get off RJ but then just walks out leaving them to it (check out the little look Buffy and RJ trade, as if to say "We've still got time!") She later refers to him as her 'lover' so I'll put him down as a possible. Equally we've no idea what RJ and Dawn got up to before dancing at the Bronze but without any definite evidence (and RJ denies they did anything even though she was so hot) I think we'll safely assume that Dawn is still 'hymenally challenged' as they said on Clueless, even in the Bill Clinton sense.
Giles: 2; Joyce & Olivia, possibly Jenny and 3xDraccy babes?
Cordy: 1?
Buffy: 4 confirmed; Angel, Parker, Riley, Spike. 2 possibles, Dracula+RJ(?)
Angel: 1;Buffy
Joyce: 1;Giles, 2 possible, Ted and Dracula(?)
Oz: 3; Groupie, Willow & Verucca
Faith:2 ;Xander, Riley
Xander: 2; Faith, Anya
Willow: 2;Oz and Tara
Riley; 3; Buffy, Sandy and unnamed vampwhore
Spike; 2 Buffy and Anya
Anya; 2 Spike and Xander
Dawn in peril; 13 but self inflicted this time. Again Buffy's love for Dawn seems to overcome the power of the spell implying a deeper connection between her and Dawn than just sisters.
Dawn the bashful virgin; 9 NOT ANY MORE! Joyce's little girl is all slutted up and hot to trot! It's a bit much that Buffy criticizes Dawn's outfit considering some of the stuff SHE used to wear in season 1&2, the leopardskin miniskirt from BBB as exhibit A (and that was BEFORE she got hit with Xander's love whammy!)
What the fanficcers thought;
The cliche of an enchanted object or spell going wrong making one character irresistable to all is a feature of more fics than you can shake a stick at!
Questions and observations;
Note Buffy still drives Joyce's Geekmobile. Badly! Oz's old favourite 'The Theme from a Summer Place' is used for when the girls fall in love whilst when we switch to split screen the music get's very Charlie's Angels (who doesn't love a bit of funk guitar?). We know that CC doesn't have a sister but wouldn't it be wonderful if the head cheerleader was her cousin or something? Did RJ's brother know Daryl Epps?
If Xander was on the SDH swimteam shouldn't he have his own athletics jacket? Dawn refers to Monty Python's Spanish Inquisition sketch, been hanging with Xander WAAAYY too much! Buffy's hair looks very similar to SMG's porn star character's in Southland Tales.
Marks out of 10; 10/10, I know a lot of people don't like this one too much but I love it, in a pretty serious season it's such a fun, amusing romp, could only be better if Faith, Joyce and Tara were present. The first ep I watched this season and then immediately went back and watched it all again then watched it for a third time the morning after. All hail the pushy queen of slut-town!

[Jaz ♀♀]

In a riposte to the evidence for being Bi Willow wants to turn RJ into a girl so she can love him. Then again Willow says her attraction isn't about physical presence which is interesting when you think of her later comments to Kennedy that she fell in love with 'A woman rather than women'. When Anya points out that RJ's 'physical prescence has a penis' Willow says she can work around it.

I sometimes do get frustrated with the writers for them not simply making her sexual orientation to bi-sexual when for 3 straight years (no pun intended) we see her clearly straight. It would have been way more believeable if she realized she likes girls as well as boys instead of instantly becoming lesbian and disliking or 'trying to work around' the 'physical presence' of boys altogether. She sure didn't look grossed-out/mortified or bored/indifferent after her and Oz had sex. What also bugs me is the writer's turning her lesbian right after her break-up with Oz which makes it look like she turned gay because of a harsh relationship with a guy which isn't all too great 'coming out' visibility for LGBT people especially when there's only a handful of LGBT character's on tv that represent us. I think the writer's should have took more time and thought on Willow's character. If they wanted to make her all gay (which they did), that's great, but i think they should have shown the viewers more build-up on her realization instead of small snippets of Willow/Tara scenes that had subtle magic/lesbianism subtext behind it all. Well anyways, that's the end of my small rant lol, and now to kinda contradict myself, i'm gonna say that after Tara's death, I was very happy the writer's kept her interested in and having a relationship with a woman, albeit it being Kennedy who i don't really like.


As for the episode, the only 2 scenes that I loved was Willow's expression in the doorway when Anya gave Willow the idea to change him into a girl and Anya saying "Damn!" (i think it was the awesome acting of Aly and Emma that made the scene hilarious). Also the scene when it show's all four of them doing what they were gonna do (especially Buffy and her bazooka).

[wenxina]

Btw... noticed this for a while now, but thought that I should finally point it out. That line that reads "Wheldon Cliches", is that supposed to be "Whedon"?

[joxerlives]

Dec 19, 2009 21:32:00 GMT -5 Jaz ♀♀ said:

In a riposte to the evidence for being Bi Willow wants to turn RJ into a girl so she can love him. Then again Willow says her attraction isn't about physical presence which is interesting when you think of her later comments to Kennedy that she fell in love with 'A woman rather than women'. When Anya points out that RJ's 'physical prescence has a penis' Willow says she can work around it.

I sometimes do get frustrated with the writers for them not simply making her sexual orientation to bi-sexual when for 3 straight years (no pun intended) we see her clearly straight. It would have been way more believeable if she realized she likes girls as well as boys instead of instantly becoming lesbian and disliking or 'trying to work around' the 'physical presence' of boys altogether. She sure didn't look grossed-out/mortified or bored/indifferent after her and Oz had sex. What also bugs me is the writer's turning her lesbian right after her break-up with Oz which makes it look like she turned gay because of a harsh relationship with a guy which isn't all too great 'coming out' visibility for LGBT people especially when there's only a handful of LGBT character's on tv that represent us. I think the writer's should have took more time and thought on Willow's character. If they wanted to make her all gay (which they did), that's great, but i think they should have shown the viewers more build-up on her realization instead of small snippets of Willow/Tara scenes that had subtle magic/lesbianism subtext behind it all. Well anyways, that's the end of my small rant lol, and now to kinda contradict myself, i'm gonna say that after Tara's death, I was very happy the writer's kept her interested in and having a relationship with a woman, albeit it being Kennedy who i don't really like.


As for the episode, the only 2 scenes that I loved was Willow's expression in the doorway when Anya gave Willow the idea to change him into a girl and Anya saying "Damn!" (i think it was the awesome acting of Aly and Emma that made the scene hilarious). Also the scene when it show's all four of them doing what they were gonna do (especially Buffy and her bazooka).

I think Willow defines herself as gay and we have to respect that. Joss said that Will remained dating girls as he didn't want anyone to think that Tara was 'just a phase' for Willow and that's why we have Kennedy rather than Will 'running back to boys town'
And yes I spelt it Wheldon (I think I was probably thinking of author Fay Wheldon) but I'm not now going to go back through 254 eps and change them all

[emanuele]

The only thing good in Him was the rocket launcher. Just to remember us that Buffy still has it and she will not used, nor against the Turok-han vamp, nor in Chosen, nor any type of advanced military weaponry remained in Sunnydale after the mass exodus near the end of S7.

[joxerlives]

Actually Him is brilliant on many different levels for many different reasons, not just the rocket launcher. But I agree it would have come in useful before, against Glory and especially against The Beast

[Jaz ♀♀]

Dec 20, 2009 6:36:48 GMT -5 joxerlives said:

I think Willow defines herself as gay and we have to respect that. Joss said that Will remained dating girls as he didn't want anyone to think that Tara was 'just a phase' for Willow and that's why we have Kennedy rather than Will 'running back to boys town'

oh! i hope you didn't misunderstand me, i totally respect her being gay (and i'm excited that they did), it was just the circumstances that led up to it (her breakup with Oz who she clearly loved)that kinda bugged me when from my point of view (seeing her straight for 3yrs) it looks like she could have been bisexual. Which is why I said in my earlier post that I really would have liked if the writers showed more screen time with Willow and her realization of being gay because it's a huge a huge deal for someone to realize they are especially in Willow's case when she loved boys all her life up until that moment. I was in no way disrespecting her as being gay, but instead i was ranting that the writer's missed the opportunity of seeing Willow coming out to herself. And that's why I said in my last part that I kinda contradict myself when I say that even though it would have made more sense to me for them to make her bi, that i'm really glad they didn't and decided to make her gay. I just wished they showed her more during that 'coming out' time in her life.