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Post by DorothyFan1 on Mar 11, 2010 17:34:30 GMT -5
But wait a minute. It wouldn't matter how it ends because the corporate big shots can scream "reboot"! and there would be nothing Joss or anybody else can do about it. He gave the Buffy copyright to Fox. This is now controlled by what? Universal? Comcast? I lose count when it comes to corporate ownership.
Joss can do whatever he wants to do creatively with Buffy. The problem I have with this logic is why would the corporate big shots be so concerned if Buffy and Angel get killed? We're talking about fictional characters who can easily be brought back to life without Joss' permission.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Mar 11, 2010 17:46:40 GMT -5
But wait a minute. It wouldn't matter how it ends because the corporate big shots can scream "reboot"! and there would be nothing Joss or anybody else can do about it. He gave the Buffy copyright to Fox. This is now controlled by what? Universal? Comcast? I lose count when it comes to corporate ownership. Joss can do whatever he wants to do creatively with Buffy. The problem I have with this logic is why would the corporate big shots be so concerned if Buffy and Angel get killed? We're talking about fictional characters who can easily be brought back to life without Joss' permission. Buffy and Angel have been shown to make much, much more money when Joss is involved in the production. Trying to reboot the franchise without Joss would not be successful (at least in Angel's case. The Kuzuis are trying to reboot Buffy based on name recognition alone.) IDW and Willingham are probably not very happy now, as they must have thought there would be some kind of timeline/alternate reality trick that would keep season 8 from interfering with the compatibility of their own series with canon. The fact is, in order for Angel to have had time to create the Twilight persona, and amass the kind of wide-ranging influence and large number of allies and employees he has, he'd have to have been well on his way by the time now being depicted in the IDW book.
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Post by The Girl In Question on Mar 11, 2010 17:53:24 GMT -5
But wait a minute. It wouldn't matter how it ends because the corporate big shots can scream "reboot"! and there would be nothing Joss or anybody else can do about it. He gave the Buffy copyright to Fox. This is now controlled by what? Universal? Comcast? I lose count when it comes to corporate ownership. Joss can do whatever he wants to do creatively with Buffy. The problem I have with this logic is why would the corporate big shots be so concerned if Buffy and Angel get killed? We're talking about fictional characters who can easily be brought back to life without Joss' permission. Buffy and Angel have been shown to make much, much more money when Joss is involved in the production. Trying to reboot the franchise without Joss would not be successful (at least in Angel's case. The Kuzuis are trying to reboot Buffy based on name recognition alone.) IDW and Willingham are probably not very happy now, as they must have thought there would be some kind of timeline/alternate reality trick that would keep season 8 from interfering with the compatibility of their own series with canon. The fact is, in order for Angel to have had time to create the Twilight persona, and amass the kind of wide-ranging influence and large number of allies and employees he has, he'd have to have been well on his way by the time now being depicted in the IDW book. I agree. However, I choose to believe that the Angel IDW and Buffy season 8 are still in canon with one another. Just as a friend of mine chooses to believe Oz never slept with Veruca lol. I know it doesn't make sense, but it's just makes things easier and less frustrating to me to think of it that way. Also, I'm still not fully convinced Buffy and Angel are going to have sex in the next issue. I won't be surprised if they do, but still...
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Post by DorothyFan1 on Mar 11, 2010 18:15:03 GMT -5
But wait a minute. It wouldn't matter how it ends because the corporate big shots can scream "reboot"! and there would be nothing Joss or anybody else can do about it. He gave the Buffy copyright to Fox. This is now controlled by what? Universal? Comcast? I lose count when it comes to corporate ownership. Joss can do whatever he wants to do creatively with Buffy. The problem I have with this logic is why would the corporate big shots be so concerned if Buffy and Angel get killed? We're talking about fictional characters who can easily be brought back to life without Joss' permission. Buffy and Angel have been shown to make much, much more money when Joss is involved in the production. Trying to reboot the franchise without Joss would not be successful (at least in Angel's case. The Kuzuis are trying to reboot Buffy based on name recognition alone.) IDW and Willingham are probably not very happy now, as they must have thought there would be some kind of timeline/alternate reality trick that would keep season 8 from interfering with the compatibility of their own series with canon. The fact is, in order for Angel to have had time to create the Twilight persona, and amass the kind of wide-ranging influence and large number of allies and employees he has, he'd have to have been well on his way by the time now being depicted in the IDW book. I'm curious to know if this Buffy movie reboot is going to use the Buffy characters besides Buffy like Willow, etc?
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Post by The Girl In Question on Mar 11, 2010 18:18:13 GMT -5
Buffy and Angel have been shown to make much, much more money when Joss is involved in the production. Trying to reboot the franchise without Joss would not be successful (at least in Angel's case. The Kuzuis are trying to reboot Buffy based on name recognition alone.) IDW and Willingham are probably not very happy now, as they must have thought there would be some kind of timeline/alternate reality trick that would keep season 8 from interfering with the compatibility of their own series with canon. The fact is, in order for Angel to have had time to create the Twilight persona, and amass the kind of wide-ranging influence and large number of allies and employees he has, he'd have to have been well on his way by the time now being depicted in the IDW book. I'm curious to know if this Buffy movie reboot is going to use the Buffy characters besides Buffy like Willow, etc? It's not. Making it all the lamer.
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Post by henzINNIT on Mar 11, 2010 19:07:03 GMT -5
The movie rights don't extend to anything created for the show, so no Willow or Xander. Haha maybe there'd be obvious knock-offs instead.
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Post by wenxina on Mar 11, 2010 20:46:06 GMT -5
Sequoia and Alex?
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Mar 11, 2010 21:28:04 GMT -5
We haven't heard anything about the reboot movie in months. I'm hoping it's just going to be a bad idea that fades into the mists of time like last weekend's hangover.
So, can anybody make out any of the dialog in the larger-sized version of Scott's desktop photo?
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Post by wenxina on Mar 11, 2010 21:42:06 GMT -5
The larger photo seems to have lost some quality, so it's hard to make out anything. Anyway, gotta remove that one too... *sigh*
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Mar 11, 2010 23:08:05 GMT -5
Why would he post that pic in the first place if it had stuff in it he didn't want getting out? "And here we have some pencils of the page where it's revealed that the General is really Spike in disguise*.... Oh, what a giveaway! Forget I said that! Please delete this info from the Internets..." *(I just made that up. The General is not really Spike in disguise. Unless he is.)
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Post by butters on Mar 11, 2010 23:12:54 GMT -5
Why would he post that pic in the first place if it had stuff in it he didn't want getting out? "And here we have some pencils of the page where it's revealed that the General is really Spike in disguise*.... Oh, what a giveaway! Forget I said that! Please delete this info from the Internets..." *(I just made that up. The General is not really Spike in disguise. Unless he is.) This is what I was wondering! Kinda weird?!
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Post by wenxina on Mar 11, 2010 23:34:10 GMT -5
It was only up for about an hour. Probably thought it would be nice, until he realized the major spoilers? Who knows... but I think that it's kinda moot to be trying to stuff that kitty back in the bag. By now, just about everyone and their grandma has that pic saved on their hard drives.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Mar 11, 2010 23:48:30 GMT -5
I don't think there were any awful spoilers, if the Spike scene was just a flashback. (And besides, we already know Spike is gonna show up sooner or later.)
Back to #33... obviously, Angel's lair is somewhere near Tibet. Willow, Xander and Satsu are able to hear the "sonic" booms of them flying and fighting and fornicating. But how would he have had the time to build such a fancy HQ there, since he's only known for a few days that Buffy was even in Tibet?
Unless Willow is listening in on them long-distance via magic, and has it on "speaker phone" so Xander and Satsu can hear? Or unless Warren has truly achieved Geek Apotheosis by creating Howl's Moving Castle?
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Post by wenxina on Mar 11, 2010 23:53:25 GMT -5
Don't think Twilight's HQ location was ever disclosed, no? If that's the case, it could have always been where it is.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Mar 12, 2010 0:04:16 GMT -5
Don't think Twilight's HQ location was ever disclosed, no? If that's the case, it could have always been where it is. That would be a fairly odd coincidence. Also, it would mean Twilight has intercontinental ballistic missile technology and could send a rocket from Tibet to Scotland with pinpoint accuracy, and without sending NATO, Russia, and China to DefCon 1. *Waves hands around* It's magic! Maaaaaagic!
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Post by wenxina on Mar 12, 2010 0:25:08 GMT -5
Don't think Twilight's HQ location was ever disclosed, no? If that's the case, it could have always been where it is. That would be a fairly odd coincidence. Also, it would mean Twilight has intercontinental ballistic missile technology and could send a rocket from Tibet to Scotland with pinpoint accuracy, and without sending NATO, Russia, and China to DefCon 1. *Waves hands around* It's magic! Maaaaaagic!It was magic. That missile was enchanted. Most likely to be able to penetrate protective enchantments placed on the castle, but hey, could also be cloaked to remain undetected. And even if it were a more local deployment, if it weren't for magic, someone would have picked up on it. Then again, governments want the Slayers annihilated, so perhaps it was sanctioned. Minor quibble, no?
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Mar 12, 2010 1:05:35 GMT -5
Then again, governments want the Slayers annihilated, so perhaps it was sanctioned. Minor quibble, no? Not a quibble, just a mildly interesting observation about the oddity of Twilight's lair being located right there in Tibet. I have officially run out of things to say about this issue.
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Mar 12, 2010 1:51:14 GMT -5
Then again, governments want the Slayers annihilated, so perhaps it was sanctioned. Minor quibble, no? Not a quibble, just a mildly interesting observation about the oddity of Twilight's lair being located right there in Tibet. I have officially run out of things to say about this issue. Heh, do you think that'd be less true if we hadn't been spoiled on Twilight's identity? Waiting is the worst part. (But at least we get Felicia Day's The Guild comic issue #1 this month!) Xi: I totally wasn't going to admit it, but yeah, I TOTALLY saved that picture right before you took it down. I'm going to treasure it forever and ever.
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Post by wenxina on Mar 12, 2010 2:10:53 GMT -5
It's sitting pretty on my hard drive as well. Yeah... *shifty eyes*
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Post by DorothyFan1 on Mar 12, 2010 5:31:40 GMT -5
The image tells me the Scoobies are still not reunited. Notice the panel showing Giles on the separate page? This suggests the images of Amy?, Dawn, Willow and Xander are from where they're currently located...which is OUTSIDE of Twilight's HQ.
Giles appears to be giving the lectures to Faith and Andrew about the "secret" history of the slayers and vampires. But if this speculation is accurate...this means Willow is NOT learning anything new from the computer...but realizes something about the explosion which gives her power back.
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