Hellbound Hyperion
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Jul 24, 2010 21:21:04 GMT -5
Geek celebrities are meant to be stalked.  And hey, usable information! We can now piece together a timeline for when Joss and Scott would have approximately come together to co-write stuff. |
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Post by wenxina on Jul 24, 2010 21:33:40 GMT -5
If I really wanted to, I could go back to old e-mails and tweets and such to get proper dates, but that borders on a level of OCD that I will not succumb to.  But yeah, I guess that does kinda establish some kinda timeline... |
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Post by Emmie on Jul 24, 2010 22:13:59 GMT -5
Haha, it's okay, Xi, I'd done the cyberstalking in my head already. So I'm right there with you! Hivemind! |
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Post by Shane on Jul 25, 2010 1:29:35 GMT -5
Spike series still not canon? BLAST!
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Post by Emmie on Jul 25, 2010 2:14:47 GMT -5
Well, Pat thinks it's canon. It's a bit too soon to call it, I think. But really, it depends on how you define canon.
I think Buffyverse canon is defined by Joss Whedon, either by him saying it's canon or being so involved that it becomes canon by how he incorporates it into his own work.
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Post by wenxina on Jul 25, 2010 8:08:13 GMT -5
I don't think Joss is ever going to come out and say that the IDW stuff, other than "AtF" is canon, but I also don't think that he'll come out and screw them over by saying that their stuff isn't canon. He's working with them to make their stuff work with what he's currently doing on S8, and I think that's a pretty good bone to throw to them. The IDW stuff won't contradict the S8 stuff, but whether that means it's canon or not will be the subject of debate. Some people will no doubt take it as their own personal canon (fanon?), and others will vehemently refuse.
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Post by zamolxis on Jul 25, 2010 8:50:44 GMT -5
That's from Whedonesque
It will be a "can't wait to read" interview.
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Post by buffyfan21 on Jul 25, 2010 10:42:39 GMT -5
I wish somebody had asked Joss his thoughts on the season 8 motion comic. I'm really curious...
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Post by wenxina on Jul 26, 2010 7:41:52 GMT -5
Right... so I confirmed with Jeanty regarding whether he already had all the scripts in or not. He said he doesn't have them all yet. Guess it'll be a little experiment to see if anyone can tell which issues were co-written, and which ones weren't. Or if all of them were co-written, could we tell the difference? For the record, I don't know which ones are being co-written, which is perhaps for the best... can be entirely objective on the final product.
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Post by Emmie on Jul 26, 2010 11:43:55 GMT -5
Huh, that's interesting. I'm still a bit worried that Jeanty doesn't have all the scripts already, but that seemed to be the case midway through ToYL and I really enjoyed the conclusion of that arc. We'll see.
As I recall, #17 was a bit lackluster, then the long break and the arc returned much stronger for #18 and the conclusion in #19.
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Post by wenxina on Jul 26, 2010 11:54:26 GMT -5
There was some good art in #17, though. Btw... if you read Jeanty's statement in the art contest thread, he mentions drawing Drusilla for something... kinda intriguing... think we're gonna get another one-shot at some point as another buffer?
Here's the quote:
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Jul 26, 2010 11:59:30 GMT -5
Here's some more info on "Wastelanders," the web series Joss was working on with Warren Ellis that is now on hold until post-Avengers: www.warrenellis.com/?p=10111This is huge to me. The creator of my all-time favorite TV show (Buffy) and the writer of my all-time favorite comic (Transmetropolitan) working together. It almost makes me wish Joss wasn't doing The Avengers... I've never really cared that much about traditional superheroes. But Warren is right that this will basically let Joss print his own money afterwards. I hope Joss can juggle this with season 9. Damn, he's gonna be busy. There was some good art in #17, though. Btw... if you read Jeanty's statement in the art contest thread, he mentions drawing Drusilla for something... kinda intriguing... think we're gonna get another one-shot at some point as another buffer? Here's the quote: Hm. By "Dru piece" I'm not sure if he means a story or a pinup. Don't know why he'd have to contact Juliet about it if it was just a drawing... or why he'd be in contact with her at all if it wasn't something she was writing. Could be a one-shot, or maybe a webcomic? |
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Post by patxshand on Jul 26, 2010 13:08:56 GMT -5
As I recall, #17 was a bit lackluster, then the long break and the arc returned much stronger for #18 and the conclusion in #19. #17 pretty much blew. I'm not sure if it was the dichotomy between it and the excellent #16 or just that it blew, but it was obviously a rush job on the script front. Oh please not again. |
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Post by wenxina on Jul 27, 2010 18:15:18 GMT -5
Hm. By "Dru piece" I'm not sure if he means a story or a pinup. Don't know why he'd have to contact Juliet about it if it was just a drawing... or why he'd be in contact with her at all if it wasn't something she was writing. Could be a one-shot, or maybe a webcomic? Well, according to Jeanty, they're working on a print. Or at least he is. But he talks to Juliet quite a bit since they're friends. Oh well... curious to see what that print looks like, but other than that... no new Buffy stuff.  ETA: New Buffyfest interview with Scott Allie from SDCC 2010. Click HERE to watch it. "Scott elaborates on co-writing and also gives us some info on Spike, the Riley One-Shot, Season 9 and more." That should tell you that this is probably spoiler-ridden. |
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Post by NightlySorrow on Jul 27, 2010 20:21:19 GMT -5
Thanks wenxina, very informative. I stopped reading IDW's comics about a year ago, so I'd rather they didn't tie anything in with Buffy. I feel too far behind with IDW's comics, and I thought they were really overusing the property and the stories were getting weaker with each issue. I couldn't keep up with it, and much of it wasn't canon or too confusing to understand what was canon and not canon. It felt like homework.
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Post by wenxina on Jul 27, 2010 20:30:29 GMT -5
From my understanding of the current situation, the SPIKE series written by Brian Lynch will address the ship that Spike rides in with, so if you want to know what's up with the ship and Spike's mysterious crew, you'll probably have to read the books, or at least keep up with discussion of those books.
I'm with you, having dropped the IDW books way back after the Drusilla two-parter.
I thought it was interesting how Dark Horse is totally changing their book's format, with concurrent books being released, with different titles focusing on different characters. I actually really liked how well Scott Allie summed up the situation: More comics but over a shorter period of time, with the concurrent releases. Given the tidbit that Scott dropped a while back, talking about how Joss' plan for S9 involved multiple planes, this could totally drive speculation through the roof.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Jul 27, 2010 20:50:36 GMT -5
ETA: New Buffyfest interview with Scott Allie from SDCC 2010. Click HERE to watch it. "Scott elaborates on co-writing and also gives us some info on Spike, the Riley One-Shot, Season 9 and more." That should tell you that this is probably spoiler-ridden. So why does Scott think everyone but Buffyfest hates him? We don't hate him. That kind of bugs me a little. Some interesting stuff there. Most interesting that season 9 will not be a continuous series, but a group of miniseries, some coming out concurrently, that will run for about 2 years. As for the spoilery stuff...
* Spike and Angel both survive into season 9. (Or at least wind up in the same place as eveybody else... assuming "survive" is really the accurate term...)
* Simone will still be a factor in season 9, so the Slayers aren't all going to die, and there's a good chance they'll still be Slayers.
* There won't be much Angel/Buffy/Spike love triangling, and Spike takes over as chief Vampire Ex while Angel fades into the background.
* Spike's ship will have a weird crew. I assume this won't be the Spikettes, since a) Scott didn't know yet when he did this interview whether IDW would be doing the backstory, and b) they're not really that weird.
* Giles isn't completely correct in his take on the situation.
* And writing-wise, Joss solo'd on #36 and #40, and the first 7 pages of #37; the whole thing is his ideas and his plot; Scott will write the remainder of #37, and #38 and 39, and Joss will then re-write as necessary.
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Jul 27, 2010 21:06:14 GMT -5
Well, Giles was never totally correct on his take, right? He said it himself - it was a myth, like a scary story you tell your Watcher children before they go to sleep or something. Makes sense that there are pieces missing, especially since the whole history of the Watchers is now obliterated and can only now be realized in the remaining live Watchers and ex-Watchers (which I'm assuming, excluding Laura from Willingham's current IDW Angel run, is just Giles - dammit Wes, why did you have to DIE?!).
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Post by Dorotea on Jul 27, 2010 21:09:59 GMT -5
So why does Scott think everyone but Buffyfest hates him? We don't hate him. That kind of bugs me a little. Maybe it is a good idea to ask him?
"Things get Ugly but Buffy cuts through this" I am not sure this implies anybody taking over as chief-Ex.
Yup - I had this feeling for a very long time.
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Post by The Night Lord on Jul 27, 2010 21:16:25 GMT -5
Spike as Chief Ex? Mm, Im liking that
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