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Connor
Jul 30, 2008 6:06:15 GMT -5
Post by jessesopher on Jul 30, 2008 6:06:15 GMT -5
Why is he so annoying? Joss is great at creating characters most of the time. But why does he choose to create the annoying ones, too? Conor and Dawn come to mind right away.
I was just watching 'Players' and at the beginning Conor is so annoying. "You don't know what it's like. We're having a baby and all you can do is joke about it because you don't like me."
The kid drives me NUTS! I'm not sure if its the actual character or the actor. Conor seems okay in ATF, he did have that annoying moment in the last issue, though.
/vent.
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Connor
Jul 30, 2008 6:13:49 GMT -5
Post by henzINNIT on Jul 30, 2008 6:13:49 GMT -5
I love Connor
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Connor
Jul 30, 2008 7:07:16 GMT -5
Post by Angelsgirl on Jul 30, 2008 7:07:16 GMT -5
Irritating and annoying are words not strong enough to describe Connor! I really wish that he hadn't come back from Quartoth....I mean, get over it already. So you had a bad childhood, big whoop! Who didn't!
Although, he was kind of ok by Season 5...bit more mature but still a bit of a wuss!
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Connor
Jul 30, 2008 7:23:12 GMT -5
Post by Rachster on Jul 30, 2008 7:23:12 GMT -5
Connor drove me crazy during season 4 i really couldn't stand him but for me it was the character not the actor i actually liked him in season 5 and ATF.
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Connor
Jul 30, 2008 8:29:02 GMT -5
Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jul 30, 2008 8:29:02 GMT -5
He annoyed me immensly in the beginning, but I'm starting to like him now. The biggest problems I had with him was that he
a) hated Angel (but he was raised to hate Angel, and is now over it)
b) he took Cordy from Angel (it wasn't really Cordy, and who can blame him for needing love after so much pain)
c) he sent Angel to the ocean (but I really think he realized his misstake)
d) his shitty attitude towards everyone (but he has outgrowned that)
e) the fake-memory deal (which was Angel's doing, not his)
f) his anti-demon attitude ( which he is now over)
g) he allowed and helped Jasmine eat all those people (I'm not even sure if he's sorry about that, but since he's not killing people anymore, I guess he's over it)
All in all, he was a crazy kid, but that was Holtz and that demon-dimension's doing. After the memory-spell (and probably a bit of personality-twisting from W&H's side) he's all right.
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Connor
Jul 30, 2008 9:24:21 GMT -5
Post by BennyTheKey on Jul 30, 2008 9:24:21 GMT -5
I was gonna start a thread seeing if Dawn or Connor was most annoying aswell !! ah well.
He really did annoy in season 4 it was like just go away !, I guess he was another metaphor for teenage problems ?, I havnt seen season 5 yet (slow I know) so I dont know how he changes
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Connor
Jul 30, 2008 9:40:06 GMT -5
Post by Wyndam on Jul 30, 2008 9:40:06 GMT -5
Well Dawn was SUPPOSED to be annoying at first. Buffy was annoyed by her, and therefore the audience was annoyed by her as well. I like that about Dawn's character, but it really didn't win her any points at all with the fans.
Connor on the other hand, was just a messed up kid. He was yanked from his father and raised in a Hell dimension, only to return to LA, hating his father and seeking revenge. I never found Connor annoying, just completely misguided (by Holtz) in everything that he did until Season 5/After the Fall.
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Connor
Jul 30, 2008 10:12:09 GMT -5
Post by magicegidius on Jul 30, 2008 10:12:09 GMT -5
Don't say anything bad about Dawnie:) I loved her during the show and even her bizare changes in BS8 are quite remarkable...
And when she has grown up in Season 11, she's more powerfull than Buffy:)
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Connor
Jul 30, 2008 10:36:24 GMT -5
Post by BennyTheKey on Jul 30, 2008 10:36:24 GMT -5
And when she has grown up in Season 11, she's more powerfull than Buffy:) I wish Joss makes a season 11........
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Connor
Jul 30, 2008 12:00:22 GMT -5
Post by magicegidius on Jul 30, 2008 12:00:22 GMT -5
Lol... allways hope:)
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Connor
Jul 30, 2008 15:08:22 GMT -5
Post by Joe on Jul 30, 2008 15:08:22 GMT -5
Connor drove me crazy during season 4 i really couldn't stand him but for me it was the character not the actor i actually liked him in season 5 and ATF. that's exactly how I feel... I just HATE him during season 4. He drove me crazy.
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Connor
Jul 30, 2008 17:26:52 GMT -5
Post by alycat7 on Jul 30, 2008 17:26:52 GMT -5
Conner is the single most annoying entity in the entire Buffyverse. Coming in second is Dawn, but she is no match for Conner.
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Connor
Jul 30, 2008 17:36:42 GMT -5
Post by Jsebold87 on Jul 30, 2008 17:36:42 GMT -5
I use to think Connor was annoying, but after rewatching the series, not so much. He was an extremely troubled and confused boy, so I can completely understand his behavior. There are times when he does annoy me, but in the long run I really do enjoy his character. The most heartbreaking Connor moment is in "Home", when he says "You let him get me", it speaks so loudly to why his character is the way it is.
I love Dawnie as well. Every character has their moments when they are annoying. I can find moments on each of the characters where they really annoyed me, it doesn't make me hate them by any means.
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Connor
Jul 30, 2008 18:05:55 GMT -5
Post by faithnspike on Jul 30, 2008 18:05:55 GMT -5
the actor was very good by season 5 I liked Conner don’t judge the character on just the 2 seasons by 5 and now after the fall they really redeemed him
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Connor
Jul 31, 2008 1:15:39 GMT -5
Post by jellymoff on Jul 31, 2008 1:15:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I think one of the issues was Vincent K. honing his acting skills. By season 5 Conner was pretty cool , while Season 4 Conner was a bit annoying. His story is heartbreaking though. Vincent has now grown into a pretty good actor-you should check out Mad Men, he's pretty amazing on that show. Pete Campbell is such a slimebag.
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Connor
Jul 31, 2008 1:56:56 GMT -5
Post by darkdahlia on Jul 31, 2008 1:56:56 GMT -5
I think vincent just didnt know what the hell the character was. He's on Mad Men and hes pretty good in an adult role (hes like 30 lol)
Joss and the writers tend to make "child-like" characters overly annoying and bitchy. Who knows why.
Dawn always seemed to whine. like that was her vocal tone. and conner was just so pissed off all the time. it was never justified either!
Conner: my shirt smells like tide instead of Woolite..........WHAT THE HELL, GODS OF LAUNDRY???
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Connor
Jul 31, 2008 2:43:34 GMT -5
Post by Emmie on Jul 31, 2008 2:43:34 GMT -5
Conner: my shirt smells like tide instead of Woolite..........WHAT THE HELL, GODS OF LAUNDRY??? You're hilarious! Karma for you!
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Connor
Jul 31, 2008 5:19:52 GMT -5
Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jul 31, 2008 5:19:52 GMT -5
Dawn always seemed to whine. like that was her vocal tone. and conner was just so pissed off all the time. it was never justified either! Well he did spend 17 years in a hell dimension, but I get what you're saying. The people he was pissed of about mostly didn't deserve it. And this comment really is hilarious:
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Connor
Jul 31, 2008 5:25:35 GMT -5
Post by Jsebold87 on Jul 31, 2008 5:25:35 GMT -5
I think anyone would be pissed off after spending 17 years in a hell dimension, and being raised by Holtz. After all Holtz had a lot of hate in him, and transferred that to Connor.
I feel for the kid, but there are moments in season 4 that I'm annoyed with. Mainly the having sex with Cordelia, and his constant rage about magic.
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Connor
Aug 1, 2008 0:49:50 GMT -5
Post by VampSlayer on Aug 1, 2008 0:49:50 GMT -5
I think there has to be those kind of characters, just to show that Joss can make the annoying ones awesome too.
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