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Post by snizapman6294 on Feb 8, 2009 22:42:46 GMT -5
So i'm watching Not Fade Away and when Lorne kills Lindsey, he keeps saying you don't kill me, Angel kills me... or something like that... and i always assumed that The Senior Partners let Lindsey see his death and Angel indeed kills him and he's would get another go in After the fall or Aftermath... Thoughts?
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Post by Wyndam on Feb 8, 2009 23:05:29 GMT -5
So i'm watching Not Fade Away and when Lorne kills Lindsey, he keeps saying you don't kill me, Angel kills me... or something like that... and i always assumed that The Senior Partners let Lindsey see his death and Angel indeed kills him and he's would get another go in After the fall or Aftermath... Thoughts? That was just Lindsey's way of saying that Lorne was beneath him and that only Angel should be the one to kill him, because of their history. Not much else to it really.
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Post by Kara on Feb 8, 2009 23:08:28 GMT -5
WAHHHHHHHHHH. I hate that lorne killed lindsey. it was horrible. Lindsey deserved better than that and Angel is a big meanie jerk for telling lorne to do it. GAH!
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Post by Tyler Austin "tiewashere" on Feb 8, 2009 23:36:52 GMT -5
Hahaha, this scene ALWAYS bothers Karacoodles.
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Post by tms on Feb 9, 2009 0:59:06 GMT -5
Lindsey didn't really do much for the series in the end, though.
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Feb 9, 2009 1:56:24 GMT -5
Lindsey was cool as, I have always hated lorne and his storylines.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Feb 9, 2009 4:49:39 GMT -5
I read the title and just smiled. Thanks for brightening up my day.
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Post by Whedon Fan on Feb 9, 2009 6:24:19 GMT -5
I loved Lindsey's charatcer. Angel and Lindseys relationship was always nice to see. They just hated eachother and at times when they had to work together it was brilliant. LINDSEY: That's my lead, you're chocking my lead! ANGEL: He's my lead, he's my lead. What are we out on the playground here? His death was gooood. I never saw it coming and was completley shocked. Another good Angel and Lindsey moment is... LINDSEY: So heres the catch. You want me I'm on your team ANGEL: I want you Lindsey...Think I might re-phrase that LINDSEY: Yeah I'd be a bit more comfortable
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Post by Malsad on Feb 9, 2009 11:11:23 GMT -5
i wish he didnt die but it was the best jossverce death ever and lol this is weird but i was watching NFA when u posted this
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Post by zoelee on Feb 9, 2009 11:48:42 GMT -5
i loved Christian Kane as Lindsay, i wasn't shocked that he died the way he did i was told by someone who thought they were clever in telling me. when i watch that episode sometimes i don't watch that bit. he did deserve more, at some points he was angels worst enemies.
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Post by Whedon Fan on Feb 9, 2009 12:25:08 GMT -5
Nah he only ever thought that he deserved more. He bigged himself up and continuoulsy went after Angel or tried to take him down in some way or another but when it comes down to it. It was all an act as Angel said ANGEL: I've seen your tough guy act before Lindsey. The first time we met you put on an act ...and it never came off, thats the jist of Lindsey's charatcer and I like it. Lindseys death was great, very fitting end to his character. :twilight
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Post by Malsad on Feb 9, 2009 12:44:21 GMT -5
but thats whats great about his character
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Post by birdandbear on Feb 9, 2009 19:31:28 GMT -5
I think a part of Lindsey was always jealous of Angel's convictions. He had enough of a conscience to be a little uncomfortable with his choice of allegiance, but not the courage to change it. He lacked the moral fortitude to truly choose one side or the other, and just kept slipping back and forth, eternally ambivalent. He had plenty of chances to change, but he just wasn't strong enough, and so I have no sympathy for his execution. He was a liability that was unaffordable at the time, and the only thing that saddens me about his death is the damage it did to those who dealt it, especially Lorne. I think it is possible that part of him wanted Angel to kill him, and probable that he fancied Angel an equal, and thus the only one qualified to do so.
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Post by cmurph on Mar 6, 2009 1:58:35 GMT -5
Lindsay dying was one of the most shocking events of Season 5. It wasn't so much as him dying but how he died...
Never saw it coming. It was even more shocking than a certain, *SPOILER* pilot dying...
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Post by Essentially Yours on Mar 6, 2009 22:06:18 GMT -5
Lorne was the character that physically killed Lindsey though. I hated that plot line. One of the reasons that I loved Lorne was the fact that he was nonviolent. After Fred died, Lorne just got darker and darker. It made me sad.
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Post by BenTaylor3907 on Mar 7, 2009 22:48:29 GMT -5
I think it was unfair of Angel for putting that burden on Lorne. If I was Lindsay, I would be pissed off too. If someone were to 'take me out', I would want them to be someone in large and in charge. The Big Cheese, not the lone macaroni noodle! The Triple Whopper, not the single paddy cheeseburger... without the cheese!
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Post by Spiked on Mar 8, 2009 21:26:17 GMT -5
I always figured Lindsey just said that Angel was supposed to kill him because they'd been rivals for a while and he figured that, if was killed by his enemy, he would be able to die with dignity.
And yeah, it bugs me that Angel put the burden on Lorne. It wasn't fair to either of them...Lorne had to live with the guilt of killing a human and Lindsey was stuck being killed by the guy who was arguably the weakest member of Angel's crew.
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Post by Greer on Mar 9, 2009 13:49:07 GMT -5
I just watched this scene last night. I do take it that Lindsey was disgusted with the fact that Angel didn't have any higher regard for him, even as an enemy, to take him out. It showed that Lindsey, in the end, didn't really matter, even though he kicked ass in the sword fight.
I hate how Lorne had to do it though. I know he had to be sneaky, and it was probably least expected from him. I just really dislike how the burden was put on him at the end, and the guilt of taking a human life( in a way, an "innocent") was placed on him. It's kinda like how Giles killed Ben. Both Ben and Lindsey had bad parts to their lives, but neither one could be exactly categorized as "evil", because both of them were human.
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Post by michellebuffyfest on Mar 25, 2009 8:35:56 GMT -5
It's kinda like how Giles killed Ben. Both Ben and Lindsey had bad parts to their lives, but neither one could be exactly categorized as "evil", because both of them were human. I can't really compare Ben and Lindsey. Ben was a victim of circumstance. Lindsey, throughout the entire run of the show, was in control of his choices. Angel gave him a chance to redeem himself, but he didn't take it. To me, Lindsey was 100% a "bad guy". Even when he works with Angel in Season 5, it's his own agenda he's looking out for, not the good of the world. It sucks that Lorne had to kill him, but it was his own choice. I, for one, don't fault Lorne for killing Lindsey for the good of the world.
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Post by Greer on Mar 25, 2009 11:58:23 GMT -5
I don't fault him either, but I think that they(Lindsey and Ben) both had the human innocence that true demons lacked. Lindsey was always a bad guy, but there wasn't a tried and true "He's a demon so it's ok that I kill him" rule invoked. I just think it's a bit removed from regular demon killing--but he needed to be out of the picture.
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