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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 11, 2009 14:49:06 GMT -5
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY
The Good; Lorne really comes into his own, we see him set up to become a regular character . Love Angel Investigation's Agatha Christie moment. The Bad; Why does the scientist act suprised at Lorne's appearance when he's been to Caritas? His plan is pretty stupid, surely after a while someone will notice and pull the plug? And won't the time freeze affect the demons too? And won't the time freeze stop the electricity thus disrupting the process? Best line: Gunn; "Truth is there's always more down" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Apocalypses: oh yeah 5 Angel Cliches Damsel in distress; 17 Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In disguise; yep, posing as a grant fund agent 8 DB get's his shirt off; 11 Cordy's tattoo;3 Cheap Angel; 6 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 8 Wes: 3
Fang gang knocked out: Lorne, all the makings of an Angel investigations regular right there Cordy: 10 Angel: 12 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 1 Kills: a demon for Gunn and 2 for Angel Cordy: 5 vamps, 1½ demons Angel; 22 vamps, 33 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 1 demon Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 5 vamps+ 2 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 6 Characters killed: 30 Recurring characters killed; 4; Total number of Angel Investigations: 3 or 1 4, Angel, Cordy, Wes and Gunn
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 10 Packing heat; Wes; 2 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 2 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast Angel: 1;Buffy Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: The sympathy bone! Does anyone actually ever do that for real? The most slow motion sex in history. How exactly do they know that Kevin is impotent? Captain Subtext; Lorne acts in a stereotypically gay fashion but he describes Cordy as hot-o-rama suggesting he's actually Bi? The bartender remarks that they don't get many of Lorne's kind in his bar, we think for a moment he means gay but he actually means demon. Know the face, different character; 2 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 14 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, Master, Anne Questions and observations; For some reason the demons seem to dress like Abraham Lincoln (or the Amish)? The weapons they use are similar to the hunga-munga used by Buffy in Anne. What do they do with Aunt Helen, turn her over to the police to charge her with murder by demon? A lovely metaphor from Lorne on holding the note. The beginning of Angel's eventual coming back to the good fight. Make Hegarty who plays the Bartender is one of those faces you see all over US TV. Cordy dances, she's quite a groover just as she was in Buffy. Wes dances too and is much better now than he was in 'She'. Marks out of 10; 7 out of 10, funny enough but not really a classic and suffers in comparison to what's gone before and what's to come.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 12, 2009 5:00:57 GMT -5
THIN DEAD LINE
The Good; Excellent ep, lovely to see Anne again, good story, especially like the Jackson/Gunn confrontation. Also a nice little role for the desk sergeant. The Bad; Could this really all happen without anyone knowing about it? Or should I ask without anyone caring? Doesn't anyone hear the gunshots in the police station? Best line: Angel; "I just killed a cop" Kate; (looking around the police station) "I wouldn't say that in here no matter how immortal you think you are" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Once again man's (or should that be zombie's?) inhumanity to man always more disturbing than the supernatural. Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Damsel in distress; 17 Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 11 Cordy's tattoo; oh yeah, we see it at the siege at the refuge 4 Cheap Angel; 6 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 8 Wes: 3
Fang gang knocked out:Wes passes out after being shot Cordy: 10 Angel: 12 Wes: 6 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Kills: Cordy: 5 vamps, 1½ demons Angel; 22 vamps, 31 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans and 1 zombie Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 1 demon Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 5 vamps+ 2 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 6 Characters killed: 30 Recurring characters killed; 4; Total number of Angel Investigations: 3/1? 4, Angel, Cordy, Wes and Gunn
Angel Investigations shot: yes, Wes by the zombie cop Angel: 10 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 2 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 2 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast Angel: 1;Buffy Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: No time for that Captain Subtext; Or that! Know the face, different character; 2 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Merle moves and I don't blame him. The whole thing is one big discussion of The End Justifies the Means, the police Captain uses vigilante methods to eradicate the crime in his area but at what cost? Angel is happy to give the area back to the Jackson's of the world because that's human trouble rather than supernatural. Buffy characters on Angel; 14 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, Master, Anne Questions and observations; Nice mislead, you think Anne is going to Angel but instead she goes to Gunn. Gunn himself starts to feel removed from his old gang. Angel and Kate seem to have restored their working relationship after the Shroud of Rashamon. Love the Cordy's clothes gag. The whole ep is reminiscent of the old Maniac Cop horror film series (which also featured a vigilante zombie cop ressurected through voodo) with hints of Night of the Living Dead, Magnum Force and Assault on Precinct 13 (the original, forget the remake even if it has Gay Byrne) Marks out of 10; 7/10, enjoyable but a step outside the arc.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 13, 2009 13:36:00 GMT -5
REPRISE
The Good; Hell of a shock when Darla makes the Angel/Darla shish kebab. Good scenes at WR&H and the Darla/Lindsey stuff is great. The Bad; How come Angel can sense Darla at the Hyperion but not when she's evesdropping on him and Denver? Best line: Lilah; "Stake the bitch!" Jeez, how did they get away with that? One of the WR&H employees pulls their child out of daycare as a sacrifice? Killing the mom and her family is horrible! Kate's suicide attempt also ain't nice. Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Damsel in distress; 17 Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; at the end Darla rips it off 12 Cordy's tattoo;4 Cheap Angel; 6 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 9 Wes: 3
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 10 Angel: 12 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 1 Kills: Cordy: 5 vamps, 1½ demons Angel; 22 vamps, 31 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 1 demon Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 5 vamps+ 2 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 6 Characters killed: Denver plus the family 35 Recurring characters killed; byebye Denver 5; Total number of Angel Investigations: 3/1 4, Angel, Cordy, Wes and Gunn
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 10 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 2 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Angel and Darla and how! Cordy: 2 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast Angel: 2; Buffy and Darla Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: The Claimac demons apparently 'raped' the villages of man in addition to laying them waste. Speaking of which Angel 'taking' Darla at the end is about as close to rape as you'll ever see from a heroic character on TV. Their foreplay is him chucking her through a glass door! Captain Subtext; Know the face, different character; 2 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 14 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, Master, Anne Questions and observations; Why no commentary on all these great eps? Why do people sacrifice goats? They're the nicest animals out but they always seem to be associated with evil. Must have been fun to have them on the set that day. David Fury of course is one of the sacrificers. First mention of Lilah's mum. Lorne doesn't like Lloyd Webber, not even 'Memory'? Wes and Virginia breaking up, awwwww! Cordy remarks she has no friends in LA, I guess she didn't keep up with the girls from 'Expecting' or 'She' (you'd think being knocked up against their will by a demonic entity and ending up in his breeding hot tub together would have bound them closer?). Darla with the glove rather reminds me of the old TV series Witchblade. Last appearance of Holland, not a nice guy but a great character. He's right of course, supernatural evil depends on human weakness. Poor Kate! Marks out of 10; 9/10, truly great
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 14, 2009 5:46:56 GMT -5
EPIPHANY
The Good; All of it, just magnificent, especially love the Lindsey/Angel fight and the truck crashing through the window. The Bad; Anyone? Best line: Gunn; "So what, you had a epiphany? Just wake up and bang?" Angel; "Sort of the other way around" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Even though it's just plastic you wince when Angel smashes Lindsey's hand Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Damsel in distress; 18 Cordy this time around Inverting the Hollywood cliche; We all expect Angel to lose his soul but he doesn't only Buffy can do that to him In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; still off from last week so yes 12 Cordy's tattoo;4 Cheap Angel; 6 Fang Gang in bondage: Wes and Gunn at the house Cordy: 5 Angel: 9 Wes: 4 Gunn; 1
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy post-impregnation Cordy: 11 Angel: 12 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 1 Kills: 1 demon for Angel and one for Wes Cordy: 5 vamps, 1½ demons Angel; 22 vamps, 32 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 2 demon Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 5 vamps+ 2 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 6 Characters killed: 35 Recurring characters killed; 5; Total number of Angel Investigations: 4, Angel, Cordy, Wes and Gunn
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 10 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes for the third time with his shotgun Wes; 3 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 2 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast Angel: 2; Buffy and Darla Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Darla and Angel have sex three times. Darla considers herself very good in the sack as she's been doing it for 400years and used to be a professional. She asks Angel was she "Not good?" which is exactly what Buffy says in Innocence. Lorne suggests that Angel give Darla cab fare (I had a friend who always said that if a guy does that/cooks you breakfast afterwards it made you a prostitute. Strangely she is now an unmarried mother). On that topic Cordy impregnated by a demon against her will for the second time. And we always thought Xander was the demon magnet? Captain Subtext; Apparently the way to tell Angel and Angelus apart is that Angelus wears leather pants? Keith Topping suggests that at the end of the ep Lindsey is 'struggling with his sexuality' but I'm not so sure? Know the face, different character; 2 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 14 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, Master, Anne Questions and observations; The PTB decide to save Kate, well you would, wouldn't you? How much do I love Lindsey as a lonely drunken teenage buck with a pink carnation, pick up truck, cowboy boots and sledgehammer? Angel uses the 70s term 'pad', well he was about back then, a groovy cat if there ever was one. Angel smashing Lindsey's hand is SUCH a powerful moment, even when you know it's plastic it still makes you wince. Goodbye to Kate who leaves LA, changes her identity and becomes a district attorney in New York before returning to Angel in season 6. Angels observation that if it all means nothing then the smallest act of kindness means everything is just wonderful. Lovely ending too with Cordy being caught by Angel, the gang is back together. Marks out of 10; 10/10
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Post by Randi Giles on Nov 14, 2009 9:29:44 GMT -5
This was an excellent Angel episode from start to finsih. Poor Darla thinking she could actually change Angel back to Angelus. Poor Kate for almost killing herself. Poor Lindsey being upset about Darla and then getting his prosthetic hand smashed and truck stolen. I always feel sorry for him. Even thouh Angel rescued Cordy and the others I completely understand why they didn't want to accept him back. I actually didn't even really feel sorry for him yet. And I love the thought that the PTB saved Kate. And I love Angel being back and helping the team and trying to regain their trust. This is a 5 star episode. 10/10
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 15, 2009 9:01:20 GMT -5
DISHARMONY
The Good; Wes and co take delight in humiliating Angel and it is funny as hell. All the Harmony stuff is excellent. The Bad; Understandably a lightweight ep, Cordy pretty much in denial throughout, she needs a friend and wants to believe she can trust Harmony. Harmony says that there are over 100 vamps in the theatre but they seem to almost all flee at the sight of the 5 strong AI team? Best line: Gunn "I say nuh and uh" Jeez, how did they get away with that? The all you can eat vamp buffet Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Damsel in distress; 18 Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tattoo; yep, definitely as CC stands up. 5 Cheap Angel; 6 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 9 Wes: 4 Gunn; 1
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 10 Angel: 12 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 1 Kills: 4 vamps for Angel, 2 for Gunn Cordy: 5 vamps, 1½ demons Angel; 26 vamps, 32 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 2 demon Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 7 vamps+ 2 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 6 Characters killed: 35 Recurring characters killed; 5; Total number of Angel Investigations: 4, Angel, Cordy, Wes and Gunn
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 10 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 2 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 2 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast Angel: 1;Buffy Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Harmony is so cute in her babydoll nightie. Her ode to the joys of human blood seems to even tempt Angel. Gunn also seems beguiled by Harm and vice versa until he discovers she's a vampire Captain Subtext; Lesbian subtext between Cordy and Harmony and then more explicit lesbian text between Cordy and Willow, CC not aware of Will's relationship with Tara up until this point. The cult leader wants to turn Wes and Gunn and eat Cordy suggesting women aren't really his thing. Cordy praises Angel as having a 'gay man's taste in clothes'. Know the face, different character; 2 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; add Willow and Harmony so 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, Master, Anne, Willow, Harmony Questions and observations; Cordy's jacket makes her look like a Prussian Hussar or something. Interesting to see Wes and Angel silently vie for the leadership role. Now I know an awful lot of people hate this ep with a vengence but I think it's great, Harmony is such a breath of fresh air, a nice light ep after the intensity of the Darla arc. Love Wes' Xena moment, "Kill'em all!" Marks out of 10; 8/10
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Post by Randi Giles on Nov 15, 2009 17:56:42 GMT -5
I didn't realize alot of people hated this episode. I think you are right that it was a nice break from intense arc with Darla which makes this episode good. Plus I'm kind of bias since I kind of adore Harmony. Loved every scene she was in. I also like Wes when he said kill them all. The good old days when Wes was the leader I kind of miss thoughs. 8/10
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 16, 2009 4:30:11 GMT -5
I guess it depends if you like the show for arc or comedy?
DEAD END The Good; Well if you like gross horror concepts this one's for you! A very nice end to the Lindsey story arc (for now) and some good humour about corporations and how they work. Very clever scene where we see around Lindsey's apartment with all the little features showing his life with 1 hand. The Bad; When Lindsey shoots up the boardroom where the heck are WR+H's crack security team who always seem to turn up on every other occasion? Best line: Lindsey "Stop it evil hand!" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Eye stabbing anyone? Or living organ donors? Plus Angel garrotting the parole officer. Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Damsel in distress; 18 Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tattoo; Her green top shows it to great advantage so 6 Cheap Angel; 6 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 9 Wes: 4 Gunn; 1
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 10 Angel: 12 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Kills: Cordy: 5 vamps, 1½ demons Angel; 26 vamps, 32 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 2 demon Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 7 vamps+ 2 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 6 Characters killed: Lindsey's donor 36 Recurring characters killed; 5; Total number of Angel Investigations: 4, Angel, Cordy, Wes and Gunn
Angel Investigations shot: Angel by the parole officer. Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 3 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 2 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast Angel: 1;Buffy Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Of course this being LA even the organ donors are insanely pretty. Lindsey pinches Lilah on the way out, well you would, wouldn't you? Captain Subtext; Angel seems to yearn for the parole officers 'butterfat'? (Yuck!) Know the face, different character; 2 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, Master, Anne, Harmony, Willow Questions and observations; Once again Wes and Angel subtly compete for leadership. Love Wes delegating Angel to help Cordy. Lilah suffers a death of the thousand cuts, constantly humiliated by Lindsey, treated as a secretary by Lindsey's client. No offence to Christian Kane but I really don't think he's that good as a singer. Kate is sorely missed by AI who now have to pay an outside contractor. Poor Cordy, the visions really starting to take their toll. Interestingly Angel warns Lindsey to never come back and Lindsey warns Angel never to play WR&H's game. NEITHER listens to each other's advice. Marks out of 10; 8/10 great stuff and the last we'll see off Lindsey for 3 whole seasons.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 17, 2009 17:16:11 GMT -5
BELONGING
The Good; Very clever opening with the mirror in the resteraunt. The scene with Angel on the false beach is also great and all the stuff between Lorne (aka Krevlorneswath of the Deathwok clan) and his cousin "Again ,NOT a coward!" The Bad; Awful to see Cordy humiliated by the director, CC a veteran of loads of commercials in real life, I wonder if this was an experience she had? As Angel says, I thought demon violence was impossible in Caritas. Best line: Rondell "We been waiting on you for months, bro" Jeez, how did they get away with that? The poor guys whom the Drakken eats Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Damsel in distress; the girl the Drakken takes as food 19 Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tattoo; 6, they actually go to great lengths not to show it during the commercial shoot. Cheap Angel; 7 Treats the gang to a fancy dinner but insists on getting his money's worth. Says he's not cheap just old. Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 9 Wes: 4 Gunn; 1
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 10 Angel: 12 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 1 Kills: Wes kills the Haclaar, Angel kills the Drakken Cordy: 5 vamps, 1½ demons Angel; 26 vamps, 33 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 3 demons Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 7 vamps+ 2 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 6 Characters killed: 2 guys by the Drakken 37 Recurring characters killed; Gunn's friend George 6; Total number of Angel Investigations: 4, Angel, Cordy, Wes and Gunn
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Gunn suggests using a flamethrower against the demon, we've seen a member of his gang use one in War Zone Wes; 3 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 2 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast Angel: 2; Buffy and Darla Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Angel remembers when you could get a tavern wench for a few bob (presumably when he was Liam the drunken whoring layabout rather than Angelus). Needless to say Cordy looks incredible in her seashell bikini as indeed does her gorgeous blonde co-star who seems quite smitten with Angel and very taken aback that he doesn't notice her considerable charms on display. When Angel relates the description of Cordy's bikini to Gunn and Wes they seem very interested (still think of CC sexually?). And check out Angel fondling his axe as he tells them. Apparently Haclaar beasts feed and mate at the same time. Captain Subtext; Cordy describes Fred as pretty. Lorne says he used to chat up the senoritas at the bar when the other Pylean men were out hunting once again painting him as bi. Know the face, different character; 2 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Wes phones home, when we see his dad in 'Lineage' we understand this conversation better. Lorne performs an excellent version of Stevie Wonders 'Superstition', Andy Hallet's second best song on the show in my opinion. Fred for the first time. Love the way the librarian rationalises Lorne's appearance. He refers to Harry Potter, I don't know if it's deliberate but Wes the sorcerer has a little zigzag scar on his forehead throughout the ep. Marks out of 10; 6/10 ok ep but not brilliant, promises much to come
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 18, 2009 15:03:59 GMT -5
OVER THE RAINBOW
The Good; A fun romp veering unpredictably from the ridiculous to the sublime, not so much the series changing direction as looping the loop and throwing in a barrel roll for good measure. Must be so nice for DB to be able to work in the sun for once. The Bad; Even the most imaginative set dressing can't hide the cheapness of some of the production qualities. The bit where Lorne goes to see his psychic friend is also blatantly filler (although I love her name, Persia White, sounds like a film noir heroine?) Best line: Another Xena reference (see also Disharmony and Halloween on Buffy) Gunn; (on being told that Pylea is rife with xenophobia) "Why are they afraid of Xena? I think she's kinda fly" Jeez, how did they get away with that? A lot of the Pylea stuff especially the hellbeast discecting the guy. We thankfully never see the AI group as a freakishly hybridinized siamese twin, as Gunn observes, horrified "That was a risk!!!?" Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; The guys take on the villagers and for once they lose. In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tattoo; 6, Cheap Angel; 7 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordyx2 but the rest of the guys as well Cordy: 7 Angel: 10 Wes: 5 Gunn; 2 Lorne; 1
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 10 Angel: 12 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 1 Kills: Cordy: 5 vamps, 1½ demons Angel; 26 vamps, 33 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 3 demons Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 7 vamps+ 2 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 6 Characters killed: 37 Recurring characters killed; 6; Total number of Angel Investigations: 4, Angel, Cordy, Wes and Gunn
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 3 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 2 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast Angel: 2; Buffy and Darla Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Cordy as a slave for the second time. If you enjoy seeing beautiful women enslaved, enchained and degraded this is the ep for you. Of course if you enjoy that you should be in deep, deep therapy rather than reading my reviews! Wes has handcuffs or at least knows someone who does (Mistress Spanksalot?). Once again, here's where they miss Kate who could have lent them some. Captain Subtext; Gunn likes Xena. Now this could either be classed as kinky dinky, he just likes hot dominant women in leather,(well who doesn't?) or it could have some deeper significance? Pylea strikes you as just the sort of place that Xena and Gabby would clean up. Know the face, different character; 2 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Angel was in the Tower of London at some stage. First real appearance for Fred and Amy Acker does a great job of portraying her impending madness. Also Gavin Parks oozes his Gucci clad self into the show. The scene where Angel leaves the tape for Gunn is very reminiscent of Kurt Russell in The Thing. Angel delighted in the daylight, his joy is lovely to behold. Marks out of 10; 6/10, not great in itself but again, promising much
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 19, 2009 12:28:04 GMT -5
THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS
The Good; Angel sees his hair in the mirror for the first time, you always wondered? (I guess Dru always fixed Spike's?) Lovely reveal of WR&H, very clever. Also like the double bluff of Cordy meeting the Groo. All the scenes with Lorne's family are hysterical. The Bad; Aside from that this seems to be a case of 6 characters rushing about in search of a plot? Best line: Lorne's mother; "No longer do the dance of joy Numfar" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Angel still enjoys telling the story of cutting Lindsey's arm off, still some bad feeling there obviously. Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; Angel actually enjoys playing the hero, revelling in his (literal) moment in the sun. In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tattoo; 6, Cheap Angel; 7 Fang Gang in bondage: Wes, Gunn and Lorne again Cordy: 5 Angel: 9 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Lorne again Cordy: 10 Angel: 12 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 2 Kills: Angel kills 2 demons Cordy: 5 vamps, 1½ demons Angel; 26 vamps, 35 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 3 demons Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 7 vamps+ 2 demons. Fang Gang go evil: almost Angel but not quite Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: demon Angel Cordy: 2 Angel: 7 Characters killed: 37 Recurring characters killed; 6; Total number of Angel Investigations: 4, Angel, Cordy, Wes and Gunn
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 3 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 2 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast Angel: 2; Buffy and Darla Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Cordy is expected to Com-shuk with the Groo, as Gunn observes "Sounds dirty to me". Obvious sexual attraction between Queen C and Groo, Lorne asks should he call the guards back with their cuffs? Cordy once again in a bikini despite saying she doesn't want to seem 'too easy' for the Groo. Cordy observes it's along time since she Com-shuked and remarks on her propensity to be impregnated by demons "Do I send out some sort of 'Com-Shuk me' vibe?" There's a great t-shirt slogan for you. Even the Groo of course is part-demon but can only mate with humans. Captain Subtext; Huge beauty and beast vibe between Angel and Fred, Fangel right from the start. Lorne also seems enamoured of Groo so more evidence for the bi vibe. Wes keeps a picture of Cordy in his wallet Know the face, different character; 2 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 15 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Here's the Groo, yay! After being abused and pushed around for the last 3 eps Cordy is now a Queen as she always wanted to be. Some beautiful small details like Cordy's little finger gesture when she tells the constable who wants the 'Most high princess' to feast on AI's blood "You're most high if you think that's going to happen!". Also Cordy reaching out to embrace her friends who walk past her to the food, shades of Indianna Jones (except Angel who makes for the mirror). Wes' idea of a list of demands sent to the Princess sounds reminiscent of Magna Carta. Marks out of 10; 7/10
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 20, 2009 16:20:17 GMT -5
THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE PLZTH GRB
The Good; The basket scene alone makes this wonderful. All told it's pretty good stuff though, a revolution in three eps. The Bad; It seems rather contrite that the entire world of Pylea is ruled by this small band of priests and their tiny army. Best line: Wes; "Why do people keep putting me in charge of things?" Gunn; (exasperated) "I have NO idea!". In many ways Gunn is the straight man of Angel Investigations, constantly staggered at the rest of the gangs grand notions. Jeez, how did they get away with that? Severed Lorne's head, Pylea has a 'mutilation chamber'? Everyone keeps spitting on poor Lorne. The Groo sets his own hand on fire to intinidate Angel before they fight. He feels pain but just overcomes it! Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; Lovely heart to heart between Wes and Angel over the fireside but we later learn that Wes doesn't necessarily believe it, he just needs Angel to. In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tattoo; 6, Cheap Angel; 7 Fang Gang in bondage: Angel by Groo Cordy: 5 Angel: 10 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Angel after the fight in the cave Cordy: 10 Angel: 13 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 1 Kills: 3 demons for Angel, 3 for Wes, 2 for Gunn and 1 for Cordy Cordy: 5 vamps, 2½ demons Angel; 26 vamps, 38 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 6 demons Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 7 vamps+ 4 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 6 Characters killed: 37 Recurring characters killed; 6; Total number of Angel Investigations: 4, Angel, Cordy, Wes and Gunn
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 3 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 2 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast Angel: 2; Buffy and Darla Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Cordy touches the Groo 'by accident' in the dark. She refers to Groo and her on their wedding night having a 'shared burden lifting' but denies that she has much experience. She doesn't like the idea of Com-shukking in front of the priests. The priests tell Groo that if Angel should win he will ravage and defile Cordy again and again until she has no more screaming in her. Captain Subtext; Do the Covenant represent the Taliban? Check out the slave-girls expression when Cordy orders her to strip naked. Also check out that Lorne's eyes flicker open to watch. Lorne observes that Groo works out when Cordy rubs him up against him. When Cordy tells Groo she loves him Angel is a little afronted that she doesn't say she loves him too. Gunn's speech at the end neatly sums up post American Civil War history. Know the face, different character; 2 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; To judge by his remarks when he and Wes are going to be executed Gunn is a Christian who believes when he dies he'll go to Jesus. CC can scream like a Classic Dr Who companion (as can Dawn, see Shadow). Angel doesn't snore. In demon form he rather resembles the Incredible Hulk. Lorne doesn't have 5 toes on each foot although we don't know how many he does have. Wes is faced with the General's classic dilemma of having to sacrifice some of his men for the greater good. How do they get Angel's car out of Caritas? Willow at the end is heartbreaking, how much can Alysson Hannigan emote with just her expression? Marks out of 10; 8/10 good end to an enjoyable arc but you're keen to get back to LA.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 21, 2009 5:38:43 GMT -5
HEARTHROB The Good; Great stuff, once again you feel the Buffy writers are making fun of the whole endless vamp love concept (Twilight/True Blood). Also Lorne's version of 'I left my heart in San Francisco' is WONDERFUL, one of the top three Lorne songs. The Bad; How many times can we see the same courtyard even if it is redressed? Best line: Angel (after fighting the demon monks) "Should have gone to Vegas" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tattoo; yep, when she bends over to pick up the fire extinguisher during the fight in the hotel lobby 7, Cheap Angel; 7 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 10 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 10 Angel: 13 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 1 Kills: 2 vamps for Angel and one each for Wes and Gunn. Amazingly this is the first vamp Wes ever kills in four years in the Buffyverse. We don't know how many vamps/demons AI killed in the summer but I'll give them one each Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 28 vamps, 38 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 7 demons+1 vamp Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 8 vamps+ 5 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 6 Characters killed: the dude Darla kills and a couple of people at the party 40 Recurring characters killed; 6; Total number of Angel Investigations: Fred not part of the gang yet, still hiding in her room 4, Angel, Cordy, Wes and Gunn
Angel Investigations shot: only Angelus by Holtz and he doesn't count Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 3 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 3(?) ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis(?) Angel: 2; Buffy and Darla Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Gunn refers to 'doin it with the demons' but doesn't mean what we think (except for Cordy who regularly seems to 'do it' with various supernatural entities). Speaking of which she's close enough to Phantom Dennis to strip naked in front of him and get some loufa action in the bathtub with him. Cordy thinks her new necklace brings out her breasts, Gunn certainly seems to think so to judge by his expression. Nice 'screwed Darla' gag. Darla says Angelus made her pay for leaving him in an extreme S&M style. Wes says Angel doesn't need a lapdance. Captain Subtext; Hugs all around when Angel comes back, the events of season 2 well and truly forgotten. James and Elizabeth (both regal names) are obviously a proto Spike and Dru (maybe Darla and Angelus needed another couple to make a four at bridge?). Know the face, different character; 2 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Love to see more of AI in the summer without Angel, they obviously kept busy. Also would have liked to have seen how Gunn coped with a solo case whilst everyone else was at Buffy's funeral. Can't they buy Fred a whiteboard so that she doesn't have to write on the wall? Does Fred really have to invite Angel into the room she occupies in his hotel? Or is Angel just bluffing to reassure her and make her feel at home? Note Angel takes the time to put his coat on before going vamp hunting. James says that Angelus knows no poetry, well he liked Spike's. Or Angel did? Holst is referred to as the foremost vamp hunter, what about the Slayer of the age? Vamps don't really seem to have love as much as twisted obsession but not having souls they can't appreciate that. Cordy's right of course, the human thing for Angel to do is mourn Buffy but continue his life. Surely James can be killed by fire or decapitation? Nice to know that when the chips are down you can rob the handicapped guy of his crutches and it's all ok. Marks out of 10; 8/10
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 22, 2009 7:21:29 GMT -5
THAT VISION THING The Good; A real one for Lilah fans, our first sight of Skip and some great acting by CC The Bad; The brain thing looks fake. It also seems all very unnecessarily complicated to rescue Billy Best line: CC (about Gavin) "Ok, Satan's toady but that's a NICE suit!" Jeez, how did they get away with that? You so feel for Cordy as she suffers. Not so much the rebar through the head but Darla slicing her hand makes me wince every time. Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; Darla's "Men are such babies" remark, about some things yes. In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tattoo; oh yes 8 Cheap Angel; 7 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 10 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy and Lorne Cordy: 11 Angel: 13 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 2 Kills: 2 demons for Angel Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 28 vamps, 40 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 7 demons+1 vamp Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 8 vamps+ 5 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 6 Characters killed: 37 Recurring characters killed; 6; Total number of Angel Investigations: Fred doing research and taking care of Cordy, now part of the gang 5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn, Fred
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 3 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: I'm going to add Phantom Dennis who Cordy will later tell us is 'good with a loufa'. Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis(?) Angel: 2; Buffy and Darla Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: 'Dick' and 'dong' in the car on the way to get the key. Lilah paws Angel when he's in her office and when he's violent with her it actually seems to turn her on all the more, she keeps pawing. Fred is 'forking with Gunn'. Captain Subtext; Lorne loves The Sound of Music. But who doesn't? Know the face, different character; 3 Bob Morrisey who plays the demon Dr is also the mad guy who accosts Dawn outside the Magic Shop in The Real Me. Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Angel threatens Lilah and Gavin. Wes and Gunn are quite prepared to kill Billy if WR&H try anything smart. Despite her tough girl image Lilah seems to be genuinely afraid at the end of the ep. Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; CC impressed by Gavin's clothes, what a shame she missed most of season 5 when AI can put their wardrobe on WR&H expense account. I wonder if the makers of The Matrix say this ep? They certainly steal the key gag for the second film. Fred meets Phantom Dennis although she also feels the need to introduce herself in a later ep. Marks out of 10; 6/10, pretty good, not totally brilliant
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Post by thevampirewithsoul on Nov 22, 2009 18:37:41 GMT -5
Good episode. It shows how much Cordelia has grow. I like how she is hiding how bad the visions are getting. She's afraid of losing the visions, where a while back she would be happy to get rid of the visions as we saw in "Parting Gifts". It also shows how far Angel will go to save someone that he cares about. He knows that it's wrong to free Billy, but he's more worried about Cordelia.
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Post by Randi Giles on Nov 22, 2009 19:51:06 GMT -5
I just have to say that I really feel for Cordelia in this episode. She's so vulnerable and that wasn't something we weren't used to seeing.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 23, 2009 5:51:01 GMT -5
Yeah, great performance from CC, good as she was in To Shanshu. Also lovely moments of vulnerability from Lilah Currently reviewing After Life on the Buffytube part of the forum, please drop by THAT OLD GANG OF MINE (anyone else keep expecting Gunn to break into a number from Sweet Charity?) The Good; Angel apologising to Merl is hilarious but this is Gunn's ep. Love Fred singing at Caritas and she shows some steel for the first time. The Bad; Evidence bags. Hmmm? Are we on CSI or something? Weird how they appear this week as an important part of the plot but then we never see them again. Best line: Fred; "Oh. Oh! Ohhhhhh!" (all in the delivery) Jeez, how did they get away with that? The killing of the balancing entity is particularly gruesome Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; Human's bad, demons, well if not good not inherently evil In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tattoo; 8, Cheap Angel; 7 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 10 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 2 Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 11 Angel: 13 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 2 Kills: one demon for Gunn Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 28 vamps, 40 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 7 demons+1 vamp Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 8 vamps+ 6 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2 Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 6 Characters killed: 40 Recurring characters killed; goodbye Merl. Gunn is still haunted by killing his sister which you can't blame him for. 7; Total number of Angel Investigations: 5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn and Fred Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Gunn with a shotgun. He seems to object to the gang using Uzis but under his leadership they didn't hesitate to use a flamethrower. Wes; 3 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1 Gunn; 1 Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Angel and the Furies Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde Kinky dinky: It's implied that Angel beds the three Furies (genuine characters from Greek mythology and very popular on TV at the time also turning up on Xena and Charmed, Piper even becomes one for a while). Singly or all three sisters at the same time? (Every man's ultimate fantasy? Or would that include their milfy mom joining in as well?) He's now happy to do so as after Darla he knows he won't lose his soul because he doesn't love them. Of course this is what we all assume. I read a very funny fanfic once where we learn that the Furies actually dig Angel due to his exquisite foot massage technique. Captain Subtext; CC describes Fred as 'sweet and adorable'. Lorne describes Gunn as 'sweetie'. The Furies tell Cordelia she is not equipped to pay this debt but I once read a rather good fanfic on the subject which ended in the words "MMMMmmmmm Cordelia!". www.fanfiction.net/s/3037269/1/Mmmmmmmmmmmm What exactly did Rondell flee from in Florida? Who is the girl who trusted him to the end? Someone he betrayed or someone who he couldn't save? Know the face, different character; 3 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Wes saves Fred in Caritas. Wes' new image makes him look like some form of student teacher or something. Surely shooting Lorne would do him no harm if cutting his head off doesn't kill him? One demon keeps saying "Oh god", the other says "He's not listening", weird that demons refer to god. Now, are Rondell and the guys right or wrong? When they raid Caritas they kill at least one vamp and a babyeating demon, it's hard to say that's really wrong? The problem is they don't distinguish as AI do. The ending is probably as good as you can get in this dilemma. Interesting that Wes warns Gunn about divided loyalties a subject he's going to learn all about later in the season. Marks out of 10; 7/10
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Post by thevampirewithsoul on Nov 24, 2009 3:45:42 GMT -5
I think "That Old Gang of Mine" is a very underrated episode of Angel. I like the issues that it brings up about killing Demons. What I find interesting is the different views that the two groups have towards Demons. Rondell's group is killing Demons for fun, even if they are saying that it's the right thing to do. Then there's Team Angel who are killing Demons only to protect people, and they don't have fun killing Demons. J August Richards did a wonderful job playing Gunn in this episode. It's a shame that we'll never get to see him play Vamp Gunn.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 24, 2009 4:30:07 GMT -5
Currently reviewing FLOODED over on the Buffytube part of the forum so please drop by. Yeah, it's hard to know who's right or wrong here. If you remember in War Zone Gunn's sister accuses him of something similar, that he's going vamphunting for fun instead of saving lives. It's the glee that Rondell and the guys show that differentiates them somewhat. We do see vamped Gunn in the comics, not a pretty sight
CARPE NOCTEM The Good; Some nice humour, especially over the whole 'Fred' thing and some nice stuff with Lilah The Bad; Surely Marcus notices that in his new body the heart isn't beating and he doesn't breathe? Best line: Cordy; "You're a eunuch" Angel; "Hey!" CC; "Figure of speech" Angel; "Find another one!" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; Much like the handicapped in Blind Date in the Buffyverse old people are EVIL! We don't expect Marcus' spell to affect Angel but it does. In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tattoo; yes, her two piece purple outfit shows it off to great effect. 9, Cheap Angel; 7 Fang Gang in bondage: yep, Angel Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Angel as Marcus Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 2 Kills: Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 28 vamps, 40 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 7 demons+1 vamp Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 8 vamps+ 6 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Angel/Marcus Cordy: 2 Angel: 7 Characters killed: the three poor guys Marcus hijacks 43 Recurring characters killed; 7; Total number of Angel Investigations: 5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn and Fred
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 3 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Three in the bed sex with 2 beautiful hookers. Well, we've all been there. CC refers to Angel as a eunuch, remember she doesn't know about Darla. CC salivates over the bodybuilders but still thinks 'All men are dogs'. Gunn and Wes argue over who gets to visit the 'First Class Escorts' but CC decides she should go instead. She refers to them as 'Pretty skanky women' (does she mean 'Women who are pretty skanky' or 'Women who are skanky and pretty'? To judge by the extremely attractive girls in the opening scene they certainly live up to their companies' billing). That's a bit rich considering she wanted to prositute herself to Rusell Winters and David Nabbit, has twice been knocked up by demons, twice sold as a slave and is currently having a high old time with her ghost and his loufa. The simmering sexual tension between Lilah and 'Angel' finally comes to a head. Much like Kate in 'The Shroud of Rahmon' Lilah finally gets what she secretly always wanted, thrown across the desk to be ravished Viking-style and bitten by Angel. Is this ever mentioned again because Lilah is actually the only one who knows about it and she has no idea it's not really Angel? And what do AI make of Lilah's forgeries plonked on Wes' desk? Captain Subtext; Marcus thinks Angel is gay (just look at his outfit) and Wes is 'Fred', his boyfriend. Know the face, different character; 3 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Amy Acker's remarks about skinny models are weird as she's the thinest girl in the Buffyverse by quite some way, even more so that season 5 Buffy. Angel likes 70s Charlton Heston films, a leftover from the Manilow era? (The Omega Man has vampiric theme, plenty of blood and contains the wonderful line 'Honky paradise brother?'). The 'Nightstalker' is referred to but probably the LA serial killer rather than Kolchak. Marcus/Angel drinks martinis with Lilah, thought she was a whiskey girl? Read a good fanfic once where Angel doesn't get his body back in the end but his soul gradually retakes control, Marcus' magic temporary and unstable. Good performace from Rance Howard as Marcus (Ron Howard's dad) Marks out of 10; 7/10, always thought I disliked this ep but the humour makes up for a pretty weak story in many ways, actually found myself enjoying the rewatch more than I thought I would.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 25, 2009 4:42:32 GMT -5
FREDLESS The Good; Wonderful acting by AA when Fred's finally reunited with her parents. CC and Wes' Buffy/Angel show is FANTASTIC! A good ep all around. The scene where Fred calms herself at the bus station by reciting Pi and the crazy looking homeless guy moves away from HER is the funniest scene in all of Angel and may be my favourite Angel scene ever. The Bad; Bit of a reach that they just let the bugs go? Best line: Fred; (when reunited with her parents) "I didn't mean to get so lost, I'm sorry I got so lost" (tears me up every time) Jeez, how did they get away with that? Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; Bugs ain't evil and neither really is the demon Angel kills, just driven mad by the eggs in it's skull. We think Fred's parents are evil but they're not. They're also able to accept AI's rather odd lifestyle In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 9, Cheap Angel; 7 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 2 Kills: chalk up one demon bug for Fred's mum and one demon for Angel Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 28 vamps, 40 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 7 demons+1 vamp Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 8 vamps+ 6 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 7 Characters killed: 43 Recurring characters killed; 7; Total number of Angel Investigations: 5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn and Fred
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 3 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Fred's mum asks if Fred is making 'movies', LA's porn industry probably bigger than it's tourism, film and music combined. Check out CCs fishnets. She seems to revel in playing nurse for the gang and later tells Angel she could 'soothe his ass off'. Captain Subtext; Lorne wears eyeliner which Fred's dad says men from Texas tend not to do (never been to a 'Gay Rodeo'?). Know the face, different character; 3 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; A nice ep with Fred now part of the gang more than ever. AI are in awe of the PI the Burkle's hire who can find Fred with only a letter to go on. The Alien films are referred to with JW of course writing part 4. Fred's dad refers to Spiro Agnew who was Nixon's vice president (he was caught up in a corruption scandal before Watergate which is why Gerald Ford, the speaker of the house becomes President following Tricky Dickie's resignation). Famously his name is an anagram of 'grow a penis'. Angel likes ice cream, weird I thought he couldn't enjoy normal food. Lorne smokes and is still bitter about what Gunn's friends did to his bar. Fred considers going to Vegas for a new job, well one day she will. Angel likes golf and apparently watched the Bob Hope Desert Classic which was presumably played in Vegas. In the daytime? Wes' talk of his own parents puts Lineage into perspective. Marks out of 10; 7/10 a funny and touching romp before we get down to the more serious stuff of season 3
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