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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 26, 2009 12:55:50 GMT -5
BILLY
The Good; Love the fact that Lilah is the hero, all round great performance from Stephanie Romanov and CC (their scene together is wonderful) and some terrific out of character stuff from Wes and Gunn. Fantastically poignant ending. The Bad; Why does Angel tell Billy's cousin he's going to kill him? How does he expect to be invited in after that? Best line: Angel; "She thinks I'm melodramatic?" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Very hard to watch at times, man's brutality to woman a lot harder to take than demons and vampires. Even though Gavin is evil you don't doubt that he would never dream of attacking Lilah if Billy hadn't infected him. Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; Lilah kills the villain, bad girl comes good. In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 9, Cheap Angel; 7 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Gunn and Wesley Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 6 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 2 Lorne; 2 Kills: Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 28 vamps, 40 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 7 demons+1 vamp Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 8 vamps+ 6 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Gunn and Wes Cordy: 2 Angel: 2 Gunn; 1 Wes; 1
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 7 Characters killed: two women Billy's victims. 45 Recurring characters killed; 7; Total number of Angel Investigations: 5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn and Fred
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Only Lilah. Wes; 3 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Wes comments on Fred's slinky number. CC and Angel 'getting all sweaty' whilst training as Xander would say. CC thinks Billy is 'kinda cute'. Captain Subtext; Wes has the hots for Fred and CC is aware of this. CC comments on using a phallic shaped weapon to threaten Billy. Angel is hurt that CC thinks him melodramatic. Know the face, different character; 3 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Even Angel is shocked when he meets a battered Lilah. She refuses his sympathy however considering what he'd done to her in the past. Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; The Blims are very obviously supposed to be the Kennedys (of course Stephanie Romanov played Jackie O in the excellent Cuban missile crisis drama '13 Days'). His cousin actually seems ok. What happens to the poor guys who Billy infected and who attacked their women? Hopefully AI/Lilah get them out? Angel tries to spare CC from killing Billy just as he and Gunn will later do with Fred and the Professor. Marks out of 10; 8/10, good episode, would be 9/10 if it had more arc.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 27, 2009 4:53:19 GMT -5
OFFSPRING The Good; Season 3 really kicks into high gear with the arrival of Darla and her 'passenger'. The Bad; ? Best line: CC; "What are friends for?" Darla; "Knocking you up and leaving you high and dry" Just beating Lorne's "It's beyond my Ken and my Barbie and all my action figures" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Cordy describes Angel as not going evil but 'going male' which is positively misandrist. Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; Darla the pregnant mother is still pure evil, defying all our expectations In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 9, Cheap Angel; 7 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 2 Kills: Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 28 vamps, 40 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 7 demons+1 vamp Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 8 vamps+ 6 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2 Gunn; 1 Wes; 1
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 7 Characters killed: 45 Recurring characters killed; 7; Total number of Angel Investigations: 5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn and Fred
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes takes the pistol from the scroll owner Wes; 4 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Wes refers to the date rape drugs GHB/rohypnol. CC refers to the Furies as Angel's 'chippies' and hopes they're on the pill. CC refers to Angel 'boning' Darla. Captain Subtext; The Kyrumption subtext between CC and Angel finally comes to the fore but Darla's arrival puts a spanner in the works. Darla seems appalled by the world suggesting her baby is already giving her a soul. Know the face, different character; 4 Jack Conley as Sahjhan, also played the werewolf hunter Cain in the Buffy season 2 ep Phases Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Hang on everybody, we're going for a hell of a ride! Holst appears to be a Catholic which is ironic given that he's based on Oliver Cromwell who was markedly anti-Catholic despite being largely regarded as a champion of liberty. Gunn is a great juggler, I wonder if he was taught by the same person as Buffy in 'Hell's Bells'? Marks out of 10; 8/10
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 28, 2009 5:21:01 GMT -5
QUICKENING
The Good; Love Angel's pride at 'Our kid, special!", everything else just moves at SUCH a frantic pace The Bad; Fred is introduced to Phantom Dennis but didn't they meet before in That Vision Thing? How non-corporeal is Sahjhan, it seems to vary? Best line: Linwood; "We're going to give you a second chance" Psychic; (reading him) "No you're not, you're going to have me killed!" Linwood; "See, why couldn't you come up with insight like that earlier?" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Killing the psychic with the plastic bag, euuuughhh! Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; Love the fact that the all powerful WR&H are once more betrayed by an underling, their security really does suck. In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tatt; 9, Cheap Angel; 7 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 2 Kills: one vamp for Wes and one for Angel Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 28 vamps, 41 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 7 demons+2 vamp Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 8 vamps+ 6 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 7 Characters killed: 45 Recurring characters killed; 7; Total number of Angel Investigations: 5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn and Fred
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 4 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Angel; "I'd had a bad day" Darla; "So you pushed me onto the bed and took what you wanted?" Angel; "Seemed the thing to do" Never got THAT on Party of Five! Which is probably why Buffy/Angel are the most popular series for adult fanfic ever. Gavin is quite the voyeur. It seems that everyone knows about Marcus/Lilah on the desktop. Angel remarks to Darla that she likes pain. Linwood dumped his wife for a younger model (perhaps literally?). Captain Subtext; Know the face, different character; 3 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; The title is derived from the term when a pregnant mother feels her child move inside her for the first time (rather puts a different perspective on 'Highlander' huh?). How does Wes know so much about childbirth? WR&H lose audio for a crucial 2 days, Jasmine/PTB interference? Linwood is played by the same actor who was in 80s detective show 'Crazy like a fox'. Marks out of 10; 8/10
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 29, 2009 8:11:48 GMT -5
LULLABY
The Good; All of it, pretty damn brilliant, especially love Holtz raiding the club. The Lilah and the interpreter scene is also great, no such thing as a minor character on Angel. Interpreter (horrified); "You highlighted an ancient gushundi text?" Lilah (defensively); "In yellow" The Bad; Even if it's just a stun grenade wouldn't Lilah and Holtz be deafened for hours afterwards? Why can't they just resoul Darla? Best line: Sahjahn; "He's using product but he's the same guy" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Darla and Angelus slaughtering Holtz's family is beyond horrible. Holtz's killing his sired daughter is the strongest and most tragic act in the series, your heart just bleeds for him. Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 9, Cheap Angel; 7 Fang Gang in bondage: Angel pinned Cordy: 5 Angel: 12 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Wes by Darla Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 6 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 2 Kills: Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 28 vamps, 41 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 7 demons+2 vamp Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 8 vamps+ 6 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 7 Characters killed: 45 Recurring characters killed; Goodbye Darla, she'll appear again but she's finally dead this time 8; Total number of Angel Investigations: 5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn and Fred
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Lilah threatens her lackey with her gun. Angel uses the stun grenade (which Holtz is obviously impressed by and uses one later at Caritas) and Wes wishes he had a shotgun. Wes; 4 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Way to much going on for that Captain Subtext; Or that. Know the face, different character; 4 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Holtz is one pretty damn tough guy to take on WR&H's commando team. Note Angel doesn't even try to tell Holtz he has a soul, he knows he'd be wasting his time. Goodbye Caritas, after this Lorne won't bother trying to rebuild again. The end of the Angel/Darla relationship and it's EPIC! And hello Connor (for good or ill). Marks out of 10; 9/10
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Post by Saturn 5 on Nov 30, 2009 5:33:22 GMT -5
DAD
The Good; Love all the Lilah stuff, especially love 'Files and records' girl (who presumably gets killed by the Beast in season 4). The seige of the Hyperion is also good as is the reveal of Lorne's message The Bad; Won't the LAPD notice all this going on? Best line: Holtz; "I think you'll find your modern popular culture references wasted on me" (No kidding!) Jeez, how did they get away with that? Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tatt; 9, Cheap Angel; 7 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 2 Kills: 3 demons, 2 humans and a vamp for Wes, a demon for Gunn, 4 vamps, 4 demons and 4 humans for Angel Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 32 vamps, 45 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 10 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 8 vamps+ 7 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 7 Characters killed: 45 Recurring characters killed; 8; Total number of Angel Investigations: Lorne moves into the Hyperion and joins the gang. Most would say that this is the definitive Angel Investigation line-up? 6, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn, Fred and Lorne
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; literally, Wes with a flamethrower (why not use that more often?)plus Angel with explosives Wes; 5 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Captain Subtext; Angel has a woman's taste in clothes according to CC. Know the face, different character; 4 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Justine's sister is portrayed by Pat Tallman (her stunt double) who was one of my favourite characters from Babylon 5. Gunn refers to his cousin, I thought Elana was his only family? Fred is a computer expert now, just like Willow. Connor likes Angel in vampface which explains why he has no problem with Jasmine's true form. Cordy comments that Connor has Angel's brow. Holtz has killed 378 vamps in 9 years which is good going, in six years by my count Buffy has only killed about 150 vamps/demons and she's the most successful Slayer ever (although she has spent much of that time running away to LA and dead). Marks out of 10; 9/10, slam bam all the way.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Dec 1, 2009 4:30:27 GMT -5
BIRTHDAY
The Good; Cordy's sitcom is great and some excellent crazy acting from DB. Also nice to see Doyle again if only in a clip. The Bad; Feels a bit laboured in places. How can the message in one dimension still be there in another (Jasmine?) Best line: Skip; "Get out of here. No really, get out of here" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tattoo; yep when she's ripping the wallpaper off so that makes 10. Note it's not CC doing the somersault on her show's credits because you don't see her tattoo. Cheap Angel; 7 Fang Gang in bondage: no although Wes and Gunn use manacles to restrain mad Angel. Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 2
Fang gang knocked out: CC for the whole ep Cordy: 12 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 2 Kills: Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 32 vamps, 45 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 10 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 8 vamps+ 7 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2
Alternate Fang Gang: Angel possessed by CC Cordy: 2 Angel: 8 Characters killed: 45 Recurring characters killed; 8; Total number of Angel Investigations: 6, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn, Fred and Lorne
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 5 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: Fred mentions she didn't wear underwear for 5 years. Gunn goes through CC's lingerie. To judge by CC's cleavage exposing outfit on her show this must be sweeps week? Captain Subtext; If Cordy wasn't around does this mean Doyle's last act was to kiss Angel? Love the CC as Wonder Woman cake the gang get for Cordy, too bad Joss went off the idea of making the film. Gunn comments that Fred is so cool. Wes refer to Gunn as his 'partner'. CC and Angel kiss Know the face, different character; 4 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; So this is a world where CC never joins AI. No Fred so presumably after Wes and Gunn rescue her she goes back to Texas? In a world without Cordy's influence does this mean Merle, Elana etc are all still alive? Pentagrams always bad news. What are Buffy and the Scoobs doing about mad Angel in this alternate reality? CC is now part demon as is Faith, Buffy etc. This is ep 55 so exactly half way through the series. Marks out of 10; 6/10
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Post by Saturn 5 on Dec 2, 2009 14:06:50 GMT -5
PROVIDER The Good; Some great comedy and some excellent action, great payoff in the end (literally) The Bad; Not bad, just lightweight. Don't like the way they can't just come out and say 'gay lover' for Sam Ryan's friend. Wes and Gunn seem to take an awful lot of trouble defeating Brian. Best line: Justine (about the ice-pick through her hand) "Feeling something is better than feeling nothing" That girl has some SERIOUS damage deep inside and I'm not talking tissue. Jeez, how did they get away with that? See above Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; the hero who is out for money In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tatt; 10 Cheap Angel; the whole thing 8. Ironically CC who'd always been so mercenary now doesn't care about the money. Although she thinks that $50,000 is way up there on the list of cool things in the world. Fang Gang in bondage: Lorne and Fred tied up Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 3 Fred; 1 Fang gang knocked out: Lorne Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 3 Kills: Angel kills 7 vamps whilst Gunn and Wes take a demon each Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 39 vamps, 52 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 11 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 8 vamps+ 8 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2 Gunn; 1 Wes; 1 Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 8 Characters killed: 45 Recurring characters killed; 8; Total number of Angel Investigations: 5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn and Fred Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 5 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1 Gunn; 1 Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde Kinky dinky: Allie misses the sex from her dead boyfriend and seems to be open to necrophilia. In a dark scene in an otherwise lightweight ep Justine and Holtz play some serious S&M games. Tying your hair in pigtails and having your boyfriend play the stern headmaster is one thing, sticking icepicks through the hand and consenting not to take it out as a trust exercise quite another! Brian seems to think that Allie is dating both Gunn and Wes at the same time. Fred thinks they want her to marry the Prince Captain Subtext; The Wes/Gunn/Fred love triangle becomes apparent. Obvious gay subtext between Sam Ryan and his 'friend'. He also notices that Angel is quaffed. Lorne says he never knew the demons intimately. CC and Angel lying on the bed with Connor together at the end, a perfect little family. Know the face, different character; 3 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Obvious Monty Python gag. Angel comments that 'We may have to incorporate' which is what they do in season 5. Eric Bruskotter who plays Brian was in one of my favourite shows Tour of Duty, you can also see him in Starship Troopers, Hamburger Hill and Crimson Tide. Jeffery Dean Morgan as well as appearing in Supernatural and Watchmen was in my favourite erotic thriller ever, Undercover Heat (which I'm sure he's taken off his CV). www.imdb.com/title/tt0114786/ He's also another Buffy/Angel alumni who turns up in Eliza Dushku's series Tru Calling in the gambling ep. Angel's arrival is very Batman. Marks out of 10; 7/10, fun comedy ep
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Post by Saturn 5 on Dec 3, 2009 11:39:16 GMT -5
WAITING IN THE WINGS The Good; All of it, great humour, great pathos, the ballet is beautiful and this is THE ep for Cangelers The Bad; ?-actually how can Angel be so sure that it's the same people he saw 100 years ago, do vampires have perfect recall? And do we really believe that Angelus who casually slaughters entire famillies gets moved to tears by a ballet (or is he just gilding the lily for Gunn?). How does the Count explain that his ballet company appears to have no members? Best line: Showing the double edged genius of the ep (comedy and tragedy) it's either "I don't dance, I echo" by the ballerina or "You know I was cool before I met y'all" by Gunn Jeez, how did they get away with that? Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In the end the ballerina fades away, she's free but not as we might have expected her to go free. In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tatt; astonishingly given all the nudity no,10 Cheap Angel; 9 He complains he used to be able to get better seats. Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 3 Lorne; 3 Fred; 1
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 3 Kills: 3 minions for Angel and 1 for Wes Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 39 vamps, 55 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 8 vamps+ 8 demons. Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2 Gunn; 1 Wes; 1
Alternate Fang Gang: CC and Angel possessed by the spirits of the ballerina and her lover Cordy: 2 Angel: 8 Characters killed: the ballerina 46 Recurring characters killed; 8; Total number of Angel Investigations: 5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn and Fred
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 5 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: so how far do CC and Angel go? Certainly plenty of above the waist action but probably not all the way. Cordy however confirms her relationship with Phantom Dennis. Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: CC thinks that men would dig 'The Ravager' because she has 6 breasts. The jacket gag, some extremely saucy dialogue between CC and Angel. Lorne comments on Angel's yen for cheerleaders. Captain Subtext; Fred thinks Gunn is 'pretty'. The entire ep concentrates on the ballet. Lorne calls Angel a variety of pastries. Know the face, different character; 4 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Amazed they let Joss away with the shameless plugging of his brother's band. Also amazed that Summer Glau had no acting experience prior to this, she's amazing both acting and dancing. Once again how would CC who was born around 1985 know about Spinal Tap? Wes shows his fencing skill which we saw him practicing with Giles back in SD. For a moment you really think that Wes will turn Iago style on Gunn and Fred but as CC comments he's a gentleman. Always wondered about the little moment when Fred turns to Wes and says 'I thought it would work out another way'. Does she know how Wes feels about her? Is she hinting that she's still interested? Lorne tells Connor the story of the Rat Pack, wonder if he knew Angel hung out with them? Start a "website", nice reach out to the fans. Marks out of 10; 10/10 a real treat rivalling OMWF
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Dec 3, 2009 13:18:04 GMT -5
Waiting in the Wings is so beautiful on so many levels. I really love Season 3 and WitW is a major highlight of it.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Dec 3, 2009 15:45:11 GMT -5
It's epic, Fred's pirouette as she enters the theatre, Wes' look of loss reflected in the cymbal, the ballerina gracefully fading away.
And yet they don't forget the funny either, classic Angel
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Post by Saturn 5 on Dec 4, 2009 9:57:35 GMT -5
COUPLET The Good; A not so subtle tale of Angel drawing away from CC, funny but nothing really special UNTIL the final scene with Wes' revelation changing what had been a lightweight ep utterly. The Bad; Tree demon looks stupid Best line: Angel; "Life is short, ok not mine but most peoples" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tatt; 10 Cheap Angel; 9 quite the reverse, he's very generous to CC Fang Gang in bondage: Gunn and Fred trapped by the tree roots. So is the guy chained to the wall at the brothel but he doesn't want to be released. Or judged. Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 4 Lorne; 3 Fred; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 3 Kills: 1 demon for Gunn and one for Groo Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 39 vamps, 55 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 8 vamps+ 9 demons. Groo; 1 demon Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2 Gunn; 1 Wes; 1
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 8 Characters killed: 46 Recurring characters killed; 8; Total number of Angel Investigations: add Groo to the mix 7, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn, Fred, Lorne and Groo
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 5 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: once again CC drawn to someone with a demon essence Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Kinky dinky: CC on the Groo "RRRRrrrrrrr", likes his (admittedly formidable) muscles. CC wants to know if they can 'com without actually shukking'? (Second base?) She plans to rip the Groo's shirt off later, shouldn't she let him get his strength back first? Angel in a brothel not for the first time or I dare say not the last, seems a fun place for all. Gunn refers to voodoo booty rituals but he might be making that up. Captain Subtext; Groo and CC and Fred and Gunn pair up leaving Angel and Wes to wander around like a gay couple. Angel objects to Groo 'handling his weapons' which is nothing to CC asking him to help her have sex with Groo. She also states that 'No women is going to tempt you' which he doesn't take as a compliment. The Madam thinks he and the Groo are a gay couple, Groo mentioning 'his princess'. Poor Wes wonders that Fred thinks of him as a brother. Know the face, different character; 4 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Who wants to bet me that it was Numfar that did the 'Dance of Revolution'? AI still take the occasional paying case in order to fund Connor's college tuition (and presumably CC's holiday). Much in the same way as Buffy seems to increasingly rely on Dawn for her emotional needs as she slowly parts with Riley, Angel seems to get over CC by concentrating his affections on Connor whilst Wes throws himself into his work. Personally I love the Groo and I'm glad to have him on the show. CC refers to her cousin, we know she has no sister but is she an only child? Did you notice that the woman the demon grabs in the park looks the spitting image of Cordy (maybe her stand-in/stunt double?) Marks out of 10; 7/10, good fun and you really feel for Angel and Wes
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Dec 4, 2009 15:43:11 GMT -5
Yay, getting into the third act of the season! Couplet is so great, having Groo back was too fun!
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Post by Saturn 5 on Dec 4, 2009 18:36:16 GMT -5
Love the Groo, best boyfriend CC ever had. Shame we never see him beyond season 3 although he does recur in the comics. I'd love to see him as Kate's boyfriend
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Post by Saturn 5 on Dec 5, 2009 16:40:48 GMT -5
LOYALTY The Good; Really is Wes' ep and he's put through the wringer here. Or so we think, it's nothing compared to what he's going to face... The Bad; Holtz's spy seems to learn a lot about AI very quickly. Why doesn't Holtz just continue to work with Sahjhan? How can Lilah be so confident in betraying WR&H, what about the mindreaders? Or do they not apply over a certain level of promotion? Best line: Gunn; (of ice hockey) "You do realise this is the whitest sport known to man?" (obviously never seen synchronised swimming) Jeez, how did they get away with that? Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; We think Holtz will possibly kill Aubrey for failing him but again he shows great understanding. It's no wonder he commands respect amongst his people so easily (a mirror image of Wes in command?) In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tatt; 10 no because no Cordy at all for the first time in 3 seasons Cheap Angel; 9 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 4 Lorne; 3 Fred; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 3 Kills: 2 vamps for Gunn and Fred nails her first Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 39 vamps, 55 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 10 vamps+ 9 demons. Groo; 1 demon Fred; 1 vamp Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2 Gunn; 1 Wes; 1
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 8 Characters killed: 46 Recurring characters killed; 8; Total number of Angel Investigations: 7, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn, Fred, Lorne and Groo
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 5 Doyle; 1 Angel; 1 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Going to add Groo to CC's list and Fred and Gunn to each other Cordy: 4 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis+Groo Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde Gunn; 1 Fred Fred; 1 Gunn Groo; 1Cordy
Kinky dinky: Lilah turns a guy down at the bar. Captain Subtext; Wes and Angel really like a gay couple now. Know the face, different character; 4 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Gunn empathises with Audrey after she talks of killing her son. So does Angel but his words have extra resonance for Wes. Holtz actually shows considerable understanding of AI and Angel also observes that he considers Holtz a good man and justified in his need for vengence. Lilah talking to her mum is heartbreaking. A staple of fanfic is that no matter what goes wrong for AI Lilah's mum dies and without the need to support her any more she decides to switch sides and help the good guys. How do they twig Aubrey? Has Lorne told them that Holtz is recruiting people like her? Or did Angel's vamp senses simply smell Holtz's scent off her? All the stuff between Lilah and Sahjhan is hilarious. Angel memorised CC's credit card number but in fairness he has given her a big roll of cash for her holiday. Marks out of 10; 7/10
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Post by Saturn 5 on Dec 6, 2009 5:51:28 GMT -5
SLEEP TIGHT The Good; The tragedy of Wesley Wyndham Price, it's a powerful 40 minutes, the rug well and truly pulled out from under the viewers feet. The Bad; Kim's demon transformation and the Rathers generally look stupid but it is effective. Exactly how much of Connor's blood does Lilah have to lace Angel's with? Surely Holtz and Justine should go a little farther than Utah to avoid Angel? (it's a cliche of American fiction that people who go on the run for some reason seldom go outside the US?) Best line: Wes; "You work for a man who you think is noble and good. I respect that but he's not. I work for a vampire who in fact is noble and good. Quirky but there it is" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Justine all busted up then SLITTING WES' THROAT! Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tatt; 10 Cheap Angel; 9 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 4 Lorne; 3 Fred; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Lorne by Wes Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 4 Kills: 1 demon for Gunn and 2 for Angel Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 39 vamps, 57 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 10 vamps+ 10 demons. Groo; 1 demon Fred; 1 vamp Fang Gang go evil: no but Angel comes damn close when he tears up the Rathers Cordy: 2 Angel: 2 Gunn; 1 Wes; 1
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 8 Characters killed: 46 Recurring characters killed; 8; Total number of Angel Investigations: 7, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn, Fred, Lorne and Groo
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes has a pistol, possibly the same one he took from the collector in 'Offspring'. Angel takes a sub-machine gun from Lilah's men and threatens them with it Wes; 6 Doyle; 1 Angel; 2 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 4 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis+Groo Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde Gunn; 1 Fred Fred; 1 Gunn Groo; 1Cordy
Kinky dinky: Gorgeous but skanky (is there any other kind?) groupies gyrating to the bands appalling music. Looks like Angel was right, musicians get the chicks. The bandleader describes Fred as a hottie and bags 'first ride'. Love Lilah's cat's miaow. Justine and Holtz extremely abusive and twisted relationship. Lilah asks Sahjhan did Angel 'boink his demon bride' and describes him as impotent? Captain Subtext; Know the face, different character; 4 Parking garages; no, Angel stalks Lilah in her bar nowadays 5, Guantanamo Bay; Angel breaks the arms of Lilah's assistant. Angel tortures' Holtz's people to find Connor. Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Lorne tells Connor the story about The Rat Pack, wonder if Angel ever told him he knew them? Angel talks about hell with Nixon and Britney Spears. Bit unkind to both of them. Angel is a fan of The Flying Nun presumably during the Manilow years, he must have watched a lot of daytime TV in his time (although maybe that goes without saying?). Note Angel would rather Connor would be with Holtz whom he knows would care for him than Lilah who would disect him. Also Holtz pushes Justine aside to stop her following him into hell. What happened to Linwood's policy of leaving Connor alone? Marks out of 10; 7/10 humdrum ep until the devestating ending
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Post by Saturn 5 on Dec 7, 2009 13:36:29 GMT -5
FORGIVING The Good; Some great acting from Amy Acker as Fred is horrified that Connor has been lost to a portal, just as she was. The little girl in the White Room is a really creepy little moppet. The Bad; Gunn and the orderlies seem to overpower Angel at the hospital very easily (although I guess that settles the whole question of Angelus' confrontation with Xander in 'Killed by death'. Thinking back on the cops/security guards in that scene would probably have had tasers which is weapon that seems to affect vamps a lot. Although bullets are no joke to them either) Best line: Angel; (heartbroken) "Cordy will be back soon, with presents for Connor" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Lilah cutting her hand just like Darla, the whole 'women cope better with pain' idea certainly gets a lot of mileage in Joss's shows. Angel meanwhile prepares to stick a needle in Linwood's eye. Angel attempts to smother Wes and is quite prepared to kill Lilah to get his son back. Justine is beaten to a pulp, so much so that even Gunn feels sorry for her. Fred using the hot coals against Sahjhan is pretty damn ruthless. Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; we think Angel will forgive Wes after he's so compassionate to the poor guy at the accident but oh boy he doesn't! Sahjahn mocks the standard Hollywood buddy-cop thriller. AI are getting hammered by Sahjahn but get saved by Justine? In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tatt; Cheap Angel; 9 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 4 Lorne; 3 Fred; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 4 Kills: Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 39 vamps, 57 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 10 vamps+ 10 demons. Groo; 1 demon Fred; 1 vamp Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2 Gunn; 1 Wes; 1
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 8 Characters killed: 46 Recurring characters killed; 8; Total number of Angel Investigations: 7, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn, Fred, Lorne and Groo
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Gunn refers to the shotgun Wes keeps that we saw in Epiphany Wes; 6 Doyle; 1 Angel; 2 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 4 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis+Groo Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde Gunn; 1 Fred Fred; 1 Gunn Groo; 1Cordy
Kinky dinky: Angel tell Justine he isn't her boyfriend and she should find someone else to smack her around. Captain Subtext; Sahjhan once again demonstrates his insecurity about his masculinity, insisting he flitted in a 'manly way' Know the face, different character; 4 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Linwood get's kidnapped and threatened with torture Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Shouldn't Linwood know who Lorne is? Surely Lorne's concern for humans and disregard for 'slimy demons' is hypocritical. Like any good Watcher Wes keeps comprehensive diaries. Why do people always cut the palm of their hands in films? Surely that's one of the most sensitive parts? Marks out of 10; 8/10 here comes the emotional pain but it's SUPREMELY well done.
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Post by thevampirewithsoul on Dec 7, 2009 20:35:46 GMT -5
I love "Forgiving". I think that it has some of the best acting in the series. As for the orderlies being able to remove Angel from Wesley's room, well Angel's strength seems to vary depending on the episode. Look at him on Buffy, he was a lot weaker on that show.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Dec 8, 2009 14:31:49 GMT -5
On the other hand maybe Angel actually lets himself get pulled of Wesley as he doesn't actually want to kill him deep down? He never tries again afterwards? I think it's Jane Espenson who comments in Becoming pt1 that in some eps Angel can move mountains and in some he can't break a bicycle lock
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The Good; The Groo and CC back which is marvellous. Lovely little scene with CC and Angel and also a lovely little scene of Pylean kinship between Lorne and the Groo over the 'ritual of the bereaved'. Wonderful final confrontation too, watched this ep first at a convention and people cheered when Angel delivers his line The Bad; The angry young man Gunn stuff is not so good. The cockney demon debt collector is deeply stupid, Guy Ritchie has a lot to answer for. When he first sees Caritas Gunn comments he's never seen anything like it but we find here he has (unless he's never seen karoke before?). Best line: Angel; "Am I the only one who owes this guy money?" Jeez, how did they get away with that? CC staking the guy's hand to the table. Gunn being so mean when breaking up with Fred is also hard to watch as is the guy getting his soul removed by Jenoff. Jenoff's death is not half as yucky as his 'rebirth'. Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; Angel loses the card game and actually cheats, breaking his word to the guy. We think Fred is going to be more sympathectic towards Wes but she rejects him. In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tatt; 10 Cheap Angel; 9 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 4 Lorne; 3 Fred; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 3 Kills: Gunn kills a skench demon Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 39 vamps, 57 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 10 vamps+ 11 demons. Groo; 1 demon Fred; 1 vamp Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2 Gunn; 1 Wes; 1
Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 8 Characters killed: 46 Recurring characters killed; 8; Total number of Angel Investigations: 6, Angel, Cordy, Gunn, Fred, Lorne and Groo
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 6 Doyle; 1 Angel; 2 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 4 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis+Groo Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde Gunn; 1 Fred Fred; 1 Gunn Groo; 1Cordy
Kinky dinky: The demon fancies Fred, again weird, shouldn't demons like other demons? Groo comments Gunn is fortunate to have a woman such as Fred to 'take care of his weapon'. Captain Subtext; Know the face, different character; 4 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Blonde Cordy! Angel seems unaware that Fred and Gunn were dating, I thought he overheard them in 'Waiting in the Wings'. No leprechauns in the Angelverse although considering how they appeared on Charmed maybe we should be grateful. Wes coming home to an empty flat is a real killer. Angel refers to the AI gang as family. Marks out of 10; 6/10, fun but nothing special
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Dec 9, 2009 0:19:28 GMT -5
Yeah Gunn episode! He's got some pretty good eps based on him. They just needed to do more with him.
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Post by Saturn 5 on Dec 9, 2009 5:11:32 GMT -5
Any Gunn ep except First Impressions which ties with Shroud as the worst Angel ep ever
THE PRICE The Good; Very much an 'in the bottle episode'. Do like Fred drinking the snowglobe. The Bad; I think the Schlucks (or however you spell it) are deeply stupid, this doesn't really work for me Best line: Cordy; "We have a pool?" Jeez, how did they get away with that? The poor guy crumbling. Also Lilah's assertion that when a co-worker at WR&H pats you on the back you should check to feel for the knife. Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cordy's tatt; 10 Cheap Angel; 9 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 4 Lorne; 3 Fred; 2
Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 3 Kills: Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 39 vamps, 57 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 10 vamps+ 11 demons. Groo; 1 demon Fred; 1 vamp Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2 Gunn; 1 Wes; 1
Alternate Fang Gang: schluck possessed Fred Cordy: 2 Angel: 8 Fred; 1
Characters killed: the poor guy who get's dusted 46 Recurring characters killed; 8; Total number of Angel Investigations: Wes makes his first moves towards returning back to the fold 6, Angel, Cordy, Gunn, Fred, Lorne and Groo
Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Wes; 6 Doyle; 1 Angel; 2 Gunn; 1
Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 4 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis+Groo Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde Gunn; 1 Fred Fred; 1 Gunn Groo; 1Cordy
Kinky dinky: Depending on how much you're into the Alien mythology you could interpret the Schlucks possessing Fred and the guy as metaphorical rape. CC describes Groo as 'sexy, well-built, go-all-night' Captain Subtext; Groo starting to pick up on CC's feelings for Angel. Know the face, different character; 4 Parking garages; 5, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony Questions and observations; Drawing from Alien, Invasion of the Bodysnatchers and The Thing a great deal. Our first appearance of grown up Connor for good or ill. Love Lilah's tarantula, once asked Stephanie Romanov at a convention did she have a problem with that scene but she said no, they're 'furry like a kitten'? Groo's mother was called Pomegranate? 'Puppy-dog' is how CC describes the Groo and how she described Jesse in the first ep of Buffy. Gunn once again demonstrates his loathing of creepy-crawlies. 'Thaunmogenisis' is also the term used for the demon created when Buffy was ressurected. Love Lorne's hat. Note when Fred drinks from from the snowglobe she cuts her lip a little. Powerful scene between Gunn and Wes. First real signs of CC's greater power. Lorne uses the traditional Buffyverse line "Standing right here". Marks out of 10; 5/10 not one of my favourites
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