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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 18:29:42 GMT -5
Felicia Day totally did.
Don't forget Stephen Mooney, y'all. Mooney has been incredibly generous here.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 18:21:37 GMT -5
Hahahah awesome that Iceeh won, but whoever nominated her as a n00b is on drugs. She's been here for the mean while.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 18:20:29 GMT -5
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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 18:19:45 GMT -5
Yay, congrats Kara!
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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 18:16:39 GMT -5
Niceee, thanks.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 18:15:41 GMT -5
Ouch, third to last place. Guess I lost some brain cells since last year!
Anyway, congrats Cooper! You very much deserve this.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 18:14:46 GMT -5
Wow, nice, thanks everyone. Couldn't think of a better poster for me to share this with!
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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 18:13:03 GMT -5
Crossing my fingers for Beck.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 18:05:27 GMT -5
Some of those points I agree with, the vast majority I don't. Plot points are always, in any story since story-telling, as the story develops. Especially in Joss's world. Very few things are planned for long-term arcs in any of Joss's work, and most just comes because Joss is fantastic at building great stories on what he's already developed. The only season that was really paid off with long-term planning is the fifth season, as Emmie already mentioned. Most of the major plot points weren't planned seasons in advance, but were planned very roughly in advance at the start of the season. Joss would say "we have to hit this, this, and this, but have fun inbetween." Same exact thing for "After the Fall."
What I do agree with is that the Spike and Lorne "First Night" tales were weak, and that #9 and #10 were a bit rushed in the art department, and there was a page in #9 that really threw me off (the "Angel the vampire slayer!" bit). Given the time, Runge could have made those as beautiful as his WESLEY tale, because we know he's a great artist. But they had to be out quickly, so that was impossible. That is pretty much the extent of the problems I had with "After the Fall."
I adore both series, but I just find "After the Fall" more consistent. While there are a few weaker spots sprinkled throughout the series (all of them mentioned in the paragraph above), I never really found there to be any real trouble with the pacing or the stories the way "Buffy: Season Eight" has had of late. Joss Whedon, due to understandable time constraints, followed up the utterly fantastic #16 with two pretty weak (relatively, of course) issues. He bounced back with a powerful conclusion in #19, but that was unfortunately followed by #20 and #21, the two weakest issues in the entire series after #5. The "Angel" title hasn't gone on as long as Buffy, so there is definitely a possibility that it will slow down or be in a rut for a few issues the way Buffy has been, and when that happens, I will definitely call it the way I did the "Spike" tale and Angel #9. But honestly, I've just found "After the Fall" to be one of the most well-told, astounding tales I've ever read.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 15:25:50 GMT -5
It's not that we don't want to criticize anything. I criticized Issue #9. It's just that a lot of us can't really find any faults with the majority of the issues.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 13:36:16 GMT -5
Since the series is about Spike looking in different places for a purpose, I'm not even sure we can assume there will be a steady-in-every-issue-circle-of-friends. Betta George isn't among the choices, though, as Brian said that he'll appear but he feels that the fish has had his time in the spotlight. Beck will have a bigger role. That's from the ComicCon panel.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 13:33:01 GMT -5
Yup.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 6:40:34 GMT -5
360 please.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 0:21:55 GMT -5
Woah, three questions in a row. Gotta put my pressure-hat on.
Definitely not announced, more implied. Brian said that Spike is going to still be around Angel and stuff, so it would make sense that he'll bump into those characters. Not as regulars, but still there, likely. Not sure about it, hence the "probably" and "it seems," but it probably seems likely. Also, at ComicCon, when a question-asker asked who would be in the Spike series, Brian said a bunch of people from the show, old and current, would be popping in all throughout the series.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 17, 2009 0:01:03 GMT -5
All the Angel characters will probably be in Spike as well, it seems.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 16, 2009 20:10:18 GMT -5
If Nathan doesn't have ulterior motives here, I might be done with the show at last. You can't throw his entire character arc to shit because you can't think of a better plot for the fourth volume of your series.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 16, 2009 15:08:23 GMT -5
And didn't Ryall specify that the Fallen Angel crossover is four issues?
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Post by patxshand on Feb 16, 2009 1:37:32 GMT -5
Nor do I.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 16, 2009 1:37:07 GMT -5
The Hagun Shaft is a tool made for an immortal to end their existence. The basic idea is that the immortal in question holds the shaft, activates it, and they die. Angel, with help from the Loan Shark, tricked the Lords into thinking that the shafts could be used as weapons against immortals, and that there has to be a second party to end the immortal's existence. But in reality, the immortal has to hold it himself.
So basically, the lords were holding the shafts, thinking the shafts would kill Angel. But they just killed themselves. It's all explained in the conversation after they go ka-boom.
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Post by patxshand on Feb 15, 2009 23:08:26 GMT -5
No way.
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