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Post by henzINNIT on May 11, 2008 13:29:45 GMT -5
Eh? Eh?
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on May 11, 2008 13:53:47 GMT -5
maybe all the magic will be banned from this dimension. i hope not, because in Fray SPOILER, we can see how the slayer who banned the demons followed with them out of this dimension.
I hope it won't, but that's what I fear. if it ends that way, it'll be hard for Joss to return after season 9, to write more.
But I don't think he'd be that cruel.
*Noticing where the thread is posted*
Oh. Wes will still be a ghost, Gwen, Connor, Gunn or Nina will die, toghether with one of the main characters.
Spike might die, because so many fans can't imagine the Buffyverse without him. So Joss will kill him.
L.A..... will probably still be in hell. Then we fans will be so curious, angry and confused about that, and we will make our voices heard.
Joss "bosses" will hear us roar, dollar-signs will appear in their eyes, and there will be atleast 20 more issues.
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Post by Whedon Fan on May 11, 2008 14:35:17 GMT -5
I want it to end with them being free from Hell A and then leaving it open for more, should anyone decide to continue it. They could set it after "After The Fall" during season 5 or any of the other seasons. I want more Firefly/Serenity comics as well. Buffy and Angel are getting a descent sized series why not Firefly. Though I do know that Shepard Book is getting a mini series dedicated to his dark past and all of his secrets so I'm looking forward to that......Oh and I want another Fray series!!
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Post by hitnrun017 on May 11, 2008 14:59:39 GMT -5
The ending I keep thinking about is the gang stopping Wolfram & Hart, Vamp Gunn and everything else to get out of hell, but then everything just stops and Angel, Spike, Illyria and Gunn are back in the alley, raining, but all the demons are gone and the four walk off. No one knows what happened and no one remembers, except maybe the four. Time didn't move.
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Post by Enisy on May 11, 2008 15:57:37 GMT -5
hitnrun, I vaguely remember that Joss's comments on Brian's first draft of the outline were that it was very nice, but that he played it too safe -- that, in the end, things weren't much different than where we had left them, in Not Fade Away. So, assuming that's been taken care of, Angel: After the Fall can't end with the same characters in the same alley and virtually no consequences, I don't think.
As to how it will end... NO idea. The only things I'm preeetty sure of are that Spike, Connor and probably Angel will survive, and that the ending will not give all the characters closure, like Chosen did.
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Post by Rachster on May 11, 2008 17:51:11 GMT -5
I want to see them leave hell a and have L.A become happy and normal i also want Fred to come back but still have illyria like split them some how and i want Cordelia to come back and gunn to not be a vamp and Wes to be human and corporeal and i want everyone to be happy and live together in the old hotel and help the helpless.... I can dream
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Post by hitnrun017 on May 11, 2008 17:56:29 GMT -5
hitnrun, I vaguely remember that Joss's comments on Brian's first draft of the outline were that it was very nice, but that he played it too safe -- that, in the end, things weren't much different than where we had left them, in Not Fade Away. So, assuming that's been taken care of, Angel: After the Fall can't end with the same characters in the same alley and virtually no consequences, I don't think. Aw, bummer. Safe, but also my perfect ending. Can't wait to see what Brian and Joss come up with though. If not safe, I hope it's earth-shattering.
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Post by gunsandsmoke on May 11, 2008 19:18:56 GMT -5
Maybe once Angel & Co. defeats the Wolf, Ram & Hart he and the rest of them have a chance to change something. Maybe make something right or correct something that was a result of Wolfram & Hart.
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Post by Whedon Fan on May 11, 2008 19:44:30 GMT -5
I wrote a fan fic where Angel realises that if he wants to defeat the Senior Partners once and for all he has to destroy every branch of Wolfram and Hart all over the world. We know fro the show that the partners are a part of Wolfram and Hart and we learnt from season 5 "The Girl in question" that there are other branches (the other one being in Rome) so my idea was destroy all the branches of Wolfram and Hart all over the world and the Partners will fade away into nothing but a distant bad memory. After The team done this Angel and Spike are witing to see if they will shanshu and they wait for a minute but nothing happens. They give a go one about how redemption perhaps is never over for them and then they walk towards the remaining members of the team and then suddenly stop with both Angel and Spike looking at eachother weirdly they look sad, curious, worried but most importantley for once in their lives they look happy and it ends with Connor looking at them asking "What happened". I ended the series there and the point was to make people wonder what did happed. Did they shanshu were they sensing another evil rising or were they just feeling a sense of accomplishment. If anyone wants to read this go to the links below my Buffy/Fray banner.
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Post by Wyndam on May 11, 2008 21:37:41 GMT -5
I really have no idea how AtF is going to end. Brian Lynch has been keeping us all on our toes so far, and I have little doubt that won't continue all the way until the end. I am expecting a few things to happen before the conclusion. I'm not saying all of this will happen, just where I see the story going.
- Wesley making a choice between Angel and Wolfram & Hart's hold over him (probably self-sacrificing himself for the good of the team) - Angel becoming a vampire again - Angel and Connor developing a strong bond - Fred and Illyria become separated (basing this on what Joss' original plans were for S6) - More epic battles - The death of Lorne, Gwen, Groo, or Nina
As for the end of Hell-A. I believe Angel will somehow come to some agreement with Wolfram & Hart in the end. I doubt W&H can ever be really destroyed, but I'd imagine Angel will try his hardest to do so.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on May 12, 2008 4:48:47 GMT -5
The ending I keep thinking about is the gang stopping Wolfram & Hart, Vamp Gunn and everything else to get out of hell, but then everything just stops and Angel, Spike, Illyria and Gunn are back in the alley, raining, but all the demons are gone and the four walk off. No one knows what happened and no one remembers, except maybe the four. Time didn't move. OMG that will probably happen. Why? Because it would bug me, bug me more than the ending of season 4. Damn Skip and damn memory-spells.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on May 12, 2008 4:51:43 GMT -5
Whedon fan, that sounds like a good story. 'Cept that in season 4 the beast kills almsot everyone in W&H and in the end of the season the L.A. branch is up and running again....
I know, I'm a partypooper.
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Post by Whedon Fan on May 12, 2008 6:09:39 GMT -5
Whedon fan, that sounds like a good story. 'Cept that in season 4 the beast kills almsot everyone in W&H and in the end of the season the L.A. branch is up and running again.... I know, I'm a partypooper. I thought about that. They only re-built and re staffed Wolfram and Hart because they wanted Angel to take it over and run it. But with it destroyed and who will take it over and more importantley who would WANT to take it over knowing that Angel and the rest of the team will just need to hunt them down and kill them. They wouldn't stop until all the W&H's are destroyed so they can set more up but Team Angel would just knock them back down.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on May 12, 2008 6:25:08 GMT -5
Hmmm. I don't know. I haven't read your story, so i can't say if it's realistic or not, but say that there is a LOT of branches... I mean Angel& co are strong but...
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Post by Whedon Fan on May 12, 2008 7:27:27 GMT -5
I know you probably need to read them and remember most of Wolfram and Hart are just Lawyers and secatery's the firts building of Wolfram and Hart they went after was the one in Rome. The episode was called "Wolf-Rome and Hart" they break in and Spike says "Any lawyers, demons or baby sacrifises you don't want killed leave the building now" so they gave them a warning and then anyone who chooses to stay and fight more or less gets killed. Angel pushes the CEO out of the window and he mentions that he done the same to Russel Winters when he firts came into a Wolfram and Hart building all those years ago. Oh and Spike blows up the building. I'm not sure I'm explaining it well if you wnat to read it the links are at the bottom of my banner. Theres an Angels season six which is okay. Angel season seven is a lot better and I'm in the middle of the Faith series just now. Anyway with the REAL season 6 I think they should end it with them breaking free from hell and then leaving the show open for it to continue in any form like a comic, tv movie, straight to dvd film or book.
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Post by iloveromy on May 12, 2008 8:18:30 GMT -5
I think whatever Gunn has cooking can destroy magic or monsters. I think Angel is going to use that device on Wolf Ram and Hart.
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Post by BenTaylor3907 on May 12, 2008 19:35:35 GMT -5
Yeah. Angel and his crew should definitely destroy the Senior Partners and go out with a big bang. Am I asking for too much?
I just don't want it to end with Gunn vs Angel. Gunn is nothing, Buffy could kill him in... well a few minutes. I also don't want Angel to hesitate before killing Gunn, if he does.
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I'm going to be ticked off if all the characters get killed off.
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Post by pablo on May 17, 2008 14:03:11 GMT -5
I think ATF is the first chapter of the full continuation of Angel stories. And i doubt IDW will drop that franchise, or stop working on canon-ATS after the end of ATF. I can see Angel giving his human life to W&H in exchange of Hell.A. going out of hell dimension. Connor dying? Possible, as would be Illyria's.
Spike and Angel, well, they're the leads and have too much of a strong fanbase behind them to be killed off. I know this is Joss's playground, and just by saying that they CAN'T be killed off, he gets another reason to actually kill them off. So i'll shut up lol
Other people dying (Groo, Nina, Gwen, Lorne) wouldn't impact the storylines that much, maybe Lorne's, but in a minor way IMO. Illyria, now she's getting more interesting as a character (not that she was boring on s.5), and she's got lots of post-ATF potential, like Angel and Spike.
Gunn is necessary tied to the end of ATF, Angel-Gunn's showdown will be ATF's climax.
People i'd like to see come back before the end of ATF (or possibly in further canon ATS stories): Doyle, Dru, Darla, Eve, CORDY, Harmony, Lilah, Jasmine - well, pretty much every Angel character.
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Post by balesthebloody on May 17, 2008 19:43:02 GMT -5
I think that it might be safe to say that "After the Fall" will end with Los Angeles will be set back to normal. As for Team Angel I think that anything could go. I see someone having to stay behind and trade their life all of the people of Los Angeles. "Angel" will end when Angel dies or finds some kind of peace. "After the Fall" is by far not the end of our hero's story.
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Post by VampSlayer on Jun 18, 2008 22:29:29 GMT -5
I think Angel should barely live through it.
Gunn is staked.
They get Illyria a new shell.
Fred gets her body back..
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