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Post by Greer on Mar 22, 2009 8:44:53 GMT -5
Ahhh I see. I saw the trees but not the strings pulling it.
Gotcha.
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Post by thehorriblebrian on Apr 11, 2009 12:57:00 GMT -5
Was anyone else bothered a bit by why Angel could be photographed or viewed in a video camera? I'm not sure if this was explained or brought up somewhere else, but if he doesn't a reflection, how can there be pictures of him? I believe that this was addressed briefly by Angel in one of the TV shows. Basically he explained that it's metaphysics, not physics. Translation: A wizard did it.
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Post by Skeptic on Apr 11, 2009 19:27:55 GMT -5
In 5x06 "Family", when Buffy kills the demon in the Magic Box and Giles helps Dawn up, the time on his wristwatch says it's 3:30. It's dark outside. I don't think it could be 3:30am since everyone's hanging around as normal, Dawn's up and around, Tara's family's stopping by, etc.
Yah, I would have never noticed this had I not been making video clips of this episode and was going through some parts frame by frame to mark the clips in and out.
Personally it doesn't matter to me about the time on the watch. I assumed they had prop jewelry and the propmaster would make sure the watch said 10 or something so it's right no matter what scene it's used in, but it's no big deal to me either way.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jun 2, 2009 2:43:19 GMT -5
Another continuity problem. Or maybe it can be fanwanked. So I was just wondering, did anyone else notice that both Fred and Angel had to see Jasmine before they stopped being her minion but Lorne, Wes and Gunn just had to have the blood mixed without actually seeing her. EDIT- *In Season 7, Spike hurt Vi's arm, even tough he had the chip. *Also, in The Killer In Me, he says this when it was shown in Season 4 that he was very suprised when he couldn't hurt Willow. Also, on his way out, he definitly hurt the doctors. It's possible that the chip could be controlled when he was in the initiative, which meant that the doctors could put on the chip whenever they wanted, when he was trying to attack the walls for example, when he was to "rambunctious". Then, when he left the initiative, the chip started working full time, because of a alarm system or something. Which means that he could hurt humans until he escaped. I don't think that's what the writers intended, but that's how I fanwank it. Still a continuity error tough. *In the killer in me, Buffy and Spike goes to the initiative, which is suppose to be filled with cement or something, according to the military guy who spoke through the TV-thing in Primeval. Maybe the government forgot about it, or lost funding, but I think the writers forgot that little fact.
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Post by spuffyfan4life on Jun 3, 2009 18:48:35 GMT -5
yeah I noticed that one too because I recently rewatched the fourth season and when he said they were to fill it up with cement I'm like...wow aparently you didn't, and the whole storyline about spike getting doped up felt weird to me anyway because it didn't seem like he was in the initiative for that long or remembered that much. C'est la vie I guess.
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Post by snizapman6294 on Jun 3, 2009 20:41:06 GMT -5
Spike's stunt double is bad too, you can clearly tell when it's him fighting instead of James. James' stunt double is clearly a few inches taller and his forehead is like twice as big as James'... Sarah's stunt double in Showtime looks nothing like her and has a skinnier torso... it's weird i notice these things... also, Dawn's stunt double, though rarely used, is much much shorter... oh my god i just noticed in Spiral, when Buffy is carrying Dawn as they run from Glory, Dawn is CLEARLY A STUNT DUMMY!!!!!!
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Post by Wyndam on Jun 3, 2009 21:08:22 GMT -5
The only REALLY good stunt double was David's. Mike Masa I think was his name, he was the lead fight choreographer on the show as well.
A stunt double flub that always bothered me was Wesley's when he and Faith jump out of the prison window. Since the scene is in slow-mo, all you can do is stare at the fake Wes drop down onto the car.
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Post by snizapman6294 on Jun 3, 2009 22:26:22 GMT -5
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Post by gumgnome on Jun 4, 2009 4:01:08 GMT -5
Teehee, looks more like Giles to me in some of them.
About the weapons doing more than they should, that's a staple of the show! There are sooo many instances when people should be a lot more hurt than they are, but here's some honourable mentions that i never miss:
Ted: When Giles gets hit by a cross-bow bolt in the lower back! Apparently simply having multiple layers of tweed is enough to prevent any serious damage. Chain-mail wearing knights of the crusades might have disagreed with him...
The Zeppo: When Jack and Xander are fighting in the basement before the bomb is disarmed, Jack picks Xander up and drops him so that the small of his back connects squarely with the corner of a wooden crate. Xander doesn't even grimace, just rolls away from the crate and gets up to continue the fight.
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Post by ambersknight on Jun 4, 2009 4:51:02 GMT -5
Not went through the rest of the thread so these two may have already been mentioned but ehre goes:
"Phases" Watch the scene when Willow rushes into the library to tell Giles and Buffy that Oz is the werewolf. Giles' glasses keep disappearing and re-appearing throughout the sequence (obviously two different takes badly edited).
"This year's Girl: If you watch the background when Faith is walking through Sunnydale's main street, you will see the same couple walking back and forth behind her.
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Post by gumgnome on Jun 4, 2009 5:38:35 GMT -5
To continue the 'Phases' critique - same scene in fact: In the previous scene Willow falls when being chased by Oz and clearly has mud all over her back. When she rushes into the library immediately after, her clothes are totally clean...
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Post by Paul on Jun 4, 2009 7:08:43 GMT -5
Teehee, looks more like Giles to me in some of them. About the weapons doing more than they should, that's a staple of the show! There are sooo many instances when people should be a lot more hurt than they are, but here's some honourable mentions that i never miss: Ted: When Giles gets hit by a cross-bow bolt in the lower back! Apparently simply having multiple layers of tweed is enough to prevent any serious damage. Chain-mail wearing knights of the crusades might have disagreed with him... The Zeppo: When Jack and Xander are fighting in the basement before the bomb is disarmed, Jack picks Xander up and drops him so that the small of his back connects squarely with the corner of a wooden crate. Xander doesn't even grimace, just rolls away from the crate and gets up to continue the fight. For me, the worst offender for that is Olaf's hammer. This is a mystical hammer that we later discover is so heavy even Spike can't lift it up, and it can inflict legitimate damage on Glory. However, Olaf smashes Xander's head with it and he doesn't even get knocked unconscious! Even if that were a regular hammer, he should be dead, his brains splattered across the walls! But he just gets back up, totally fine??!! Another example is Buffy getting stabbed in "Chosen". A mere knife wound was enough to render Faith comatose for half a year, and Buffy nearly died from stab/bullet wounds in "Fool for Love"/"Villains". But in "Chosen", she gets completely speared through the torso, and I mean right through, and ten minutes later she's standing chatting with her pals with a big smile on her face? Not to mention jumping off buildings? Where'd her injury go? I'm inhumanly tolerant of continuity errors, but those two just defy logic.
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Post by ambersknight on Jun 4, 2009 7:24:22 GMT -5
I'm tempted to mention another one when it comes to logic defying but I will leave it for now.
Another small one that does bug me though concerns Anya. In Graduation Day part 1 she tries to get Xander to come away with her, saying she has a car waiting and they could take turns driving. Forward to triangle and she says she hasn't learned to drive. Now it could be she was referring to an automatic as opposed to manual gears but its not really made clear.
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Post by xaphania on Jun 4, 2009 7:52:52 GMT -5
I haven't read through the entire thread so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but this is one error that really gets on my nerves.
In Tabula Rasa, some of the vampires working for the shark guy burst through the front window of the shop, shattering the glass and wrecking the blinds.
A few scenes later, when a couple of the vamps have been dusted and the others are forced outside, Spike goes over to the now miraculously-mended window and closes the blinds.
Grr.
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Post by ambersknight on Jun 4, 2009 10:24:36 GMT -5
Of course I could metnion what i see as a direct continuity error between "The Zeppo" and "Villains" (one minute you can raise the victim of a shooting, next minute you can't). But I know this is a point of some contension.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jun 4, 2009 10:27:34 GMT -5
Of course I could metnion what i see as a direct continuity error between "The Zeppo" and "Villains" (one minute you can raise the victim of a shooting, next minute you can't). But I know this is a point of some contension. Well, then Tara would have come back as zombie, maybe that's why Willow didn't do it? Nah, she was desperate enough.
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Post by ambersknight on Jun 4, 2009 11:05:37 GMT -5
There was never any indication that Jack O' Toole wa a zombie. The others were deformed but they had been in the ground for months prior to being raised so i think the popint still holds.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jun 4, 2009 12:06:17 GMT -5
There was never any indication that Jack O' Toole wa a zombie. The others were deformed but they had been in the ground for months prior to being raised so i think the popint still holds. If the same spell is used, they're the same kind of undead.(I assume the same spell was used). -EDIT I found another reason that Tara couldn't be raised. In The Zeppo, the stars where in the right place, so even if Willow knew the spell used in The Zeppo, the timing might have been wrong.
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Post by ambersknight on Jun 4, 2009 12:13:52 GMT -5
The same spell was used (one assumes) but their appearance was nothing to do with the spell, but due to the amount of time they ahd spent rotting in the ground prior to the spell, O'Toole himself seemed unblemished with the exception of the bullet hole scars. Plus, one could also argue that O' Toole's granpappy was a greater proponent of the spell so either he was able to raise Jack without the stars (Jack being less able needed the stars to align in order to augment his ability) or his ability was what made Jack look really normal. Given Willow's exceptional magical ability, she could easily have replicated the spell.
That is very true, but its not a reason expressed at the time. if she had tried to use the ressurection spell and that reason came out, then that would be one thing. But it wasn't, so they its not really a valid hold back.
Its a real bone of contention I know and I go into it a litle more on other threads so its best to take this convo to there rather than block up this one.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jun 4, 2009 12:22:20 GMT -5
I kinda think we misunderstood each other from the beginning. I don't remember saying anything about them rotting. So let's start over.
These two quotes I don't get, I'm just guessing what you refer to.
Block away, I made thread for discussion of continuity errors.
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