Shane
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Post by Shane on Nov 23, 2010 7:35:47 GMT -5
Whit Anderson, eh? Is she a Spuffy or a Bangel? Or a Spuffy? Or a Bangel? The timing makes me think this will eventually become all about... you know... teh romantasy!!! And teh hawtness!!!
But I don't really need Joss's involvement. I love Joss. Unconditionally and irrevocably. But I think every fan should have the opportunity to have their own version of Buffy produced/published. Remember people, that’s one of us down there. The first one of us. (Fifty bucks says the movie bombs out, BTW.)
Anyway, I just hope it's in the same spirit. I'm not familiar with any of the writer's previous work but she mentioned Nolan. There's some comfort to be drawn from that. (Although those superheroes were created around WWII and need some re-imagining to be more relevant to today's issues. Buffy doesn't, IMO.)
Of course I'm assuming there isn't much chance of a Joss movie with the original cast.
Overall, I'm skeptical and ambivalent. As always, I'll try to be happy with whatever comes of it.
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Post by Eric on Nov 23, 2010 7:41:54 GMT -5
And like when they made the Princess Diaries into a film when I was obsessed with those books... nothing about those films was right. You're totally right. Anne Hathaway didn't even take her top off! -Why didn't Joss own the rights to Buffy and refuse to sell them? He was a young nobody when he wrote the script for the Buffy movie. Selling the rights was part of getting it made. -Why did Dolly Parton own the rights to Buffy? WTF? |
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Post by loveisabird on Nov 23, 2010 8:04:50 GMT -5
omg that face is how i feel over this. did the forum banner change on purpose cos this news? lol worst. news. ALSO, If Buffy is played by Hayden Panewhatever I WILL NOT be happy. |
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Post by henzINNIT on Nov 23, 2010 8:11:00 GMT -5
Lets be real here though. A real Buffy movie isn't going to happen. It's not like this shitty reboot is going to affect chances or getting anything better.
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Post by harmindervamp on Nov 23, 2010 8:19:44 GMT -5
LOL, I hate her, I call her Hayden Panetititata.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Nov 23, 2010 9:09:27 GMT -5
Judging by the humorous-but-not-so-humorous tone of his response, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this causes Joss to finally wash his hands of the Buffy franchise.
My prediction is that he will have little or no involvement with the season 9 comics beyond providing his outline, and that the end of that season will be the end of the line for his version of Buffy.
It's clear the studios want Buffy... they just don't want him. So he'll just get out of the way with good grace.
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Post by cosmosmallbottom on Nov 23, 2010 9:44:02 GMT -5
The thing about this is if you asked any of us do you want a Buffy movie made? the answer would be, of course!
Then you find out our Buffy ie; the tv show with the fleshed out characters, excellent cast and writing that elevated the medium is not whats being re-made, its actually going to be the messy film which only contained the bare bones of an idea. That by some accident of law is now fair game for any Hollywood flim-flam merchant that wants to make a fast buck.
It just feels wrong in every way, morally if not legally that character is Joss's and its too soon I'm not convinced there is a generation of film goers that is unaware of btvs.
PS, to whoever wrote that press release being a tea-boy on The Dark Night does not elevate you from critique
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Post by angeliclestat on Nov 23, 2010 9:44:32 GMT -5
My prediction is that he will have little or no involvement with the season 9 comics beyond providing his outline, and that the end of that season will be the end of the line for his version of Buffy. . If that happens will they be canon. What? Angel fans have had to put up with that for years.  |
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dravenuk
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Post by dravenuk on Nov 23, 2010 10:02:35 GMT -5
I think we Whedon fans are way too protective over Buffy, thinking Joss can only do it justice. Damn straight I'm protective of Buffy. And I make no apologies for being that way. Joss's Buffy is one of the few things I do feel immensely protective of. I feel that if someone is starting a reboot, re-imagining the series in some way, but have love, respect, admiration etc. for the television show why not give it a chance? I like to think of it akin to Abrams' Star Trek movie reboot. It was made by people who loved the original and wished to recreate it, and it turned out pretty good. I thought Abrams’ Trek reboot was great. But there is a big difference. Roddenberry is long dead and by the time Abrams came to it, the Trek franchise had been done to death, and, in my opinion, pretty shabbily treated in its latter years. It needed a reboot in order to survive. Also, the reboot is still very much a part of the classic Trek universe (though a universe now altered by time travel). It has the same characters and is linked by Nimoy's Spock Prime which gives the whole thing instant credibility. It was also made a respectable time after the original series ended i.e. 40 years. I'm not morally opposed to remakes or reboots...but only when there is artistic merit. Not just for pure financial gain. Joss is right. Buffy should live on after him. A reboot in the distant future post-joss would be fine. But to actively do it while the guy is still writing his Buffy and while its fandom is still so big and active and vocal is crazy and disrespectful to Joss and to the millions of fans around the world. It comes across as just a cynical, ill timed cash grab. Shame on you Warner Bros.  |
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Post by Mr. Savath Bunny on Nov 23, 2010 10:16:03 GMT -5
Whit Anderson needs to just calm the eff down and just post her little thoughts in the FAN FICTION section because that's ALL this will be - a glorified FAN FICTION that has apparently been given a budget.
Although, if.... for some reason out of the cosmos the script isn't half bad... how would we feel about a "Dark Knight" version of Buffy? I mean, everyone and their pet hamster has written a Batman movie... the first were darker because of Tim Burton but then it became a focus on celebrity -BUT - holy wow - who DIDN'T like The Dark Knight?? If this was the result I'm not sure it would be a COMPLETE tragedy. Anyways, it takes talent and wit to write a perfect movie script and we are all assuming this Anderson individual can barely channel the actual essence of Buffy like Joss can in a flash. I guess we'll see....
Why not just make a freaking Fray movie instead?!
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Jordan
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Post by Jordan on Nov 23, 2010 10:20:20 GMT -5
On the plus side, I can't wait to see this referenced in S9, a la 'Last Angel in Hell.' That accurately summarized how a lot of 'adaptations' and reboots end up being, and I don't doubt that this film will end feeling like a real-life version of that comic. I can't wait to see the inevitably biting fictional response, and it's kind of perfect timing since vamps and slayers are now part of the public consciousness in the 'verse.
So here's hoping Joss and crew use this opportunity to wittily rip the Soulbloode out of this travesty, as only they can.
Edit; As for all the 'Nolan Batman' comparisons I've seen, I don't see how they make any sense. Like Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, Buffy the series was a much more serious and artistic reboot of an idea that had previously only received a somewhat laughable depiction in film. Like the new Spider-Man reboot, this just feels redundant, because it's already been done effectively, with the timespan between 'first reboot' and 'other reboot' still in the single digits. In other words, Buffy the series IS Buffy the bad early 90's movie's 'Dark Knight.'
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Post by whitecandy on Nov 23, 2010 11:37:57 GMT -5
I can't believe this is actually happening, I really thought it was just an idea someone crazily had and then decided against. I personally don't think there should be any remaking of Buffy as it was perfect as it was and ended in the best way and it should be left well alone as the unique and brilliant genius show that it was. Of course I miss it but I would rather have good memories than bad ones if it was dragged out forever more. Season 8 hasn't really done it for me either but at least it follows the characters we all know and love along with the awesome story telling, humour and emotion from the tv show. The thought of Buffy without Joss seems so wrong to me, the whole essence of what she stands for and means will be lost. Saying that though, I don't think I could resist watching a remake even if it was just to moan through the whole thing  Maybe it will turn out good though, who knows... I can't believe how much coverage Joss is getting on Twitter (as someone else mentioned earlier) its crazy!! |
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Nov 23, 2010 11:38:51 GMT -5
No Arthur Conan Doyle, no Sherlock Holmes?
No Euripides, no Hercules?
No Pythagoras, no Theorem?
Come off it.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Nov 23, 2010 11:49:14 GMT -5
No Arthur Conan Doyle, no Sherlock Holmes? No Euripides, no Hercules? No Pythagoras, no Theorem? Come off it. All of the cases you mention are ones in which the original author is long, long dead. In fact, all of those characters/things are legally in the public domain. It's fundamentally unethical to steal a creator's character when he's still alive, still telling his own stories with that character, and doesn't approve. |
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bonoferox
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Post by bonoferox on Nov 23, 2010 11:51:43 GMT -5
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BuffyFanOne
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Post by BuffyFanOne on Nov 23, 2010 12:08:05 GMT -5
I found this extended Joss response on PerezHilton.com Kristin, I'm glad you asked for my thoughts on the announcement of Buffy the cinema film. This is a sad, sad reflection on our times, when people must feed off the carcasses of beloved stories from their youths—just because they can't think of an original idea of their own, like I did with my Avengers idea that I made up myself. Obviously I have strong, mixed emotions about something like this. My first reaction upon hearing who was writing it was, "Whit Stillman AND Wes Anderson? This is gonna be the most sardonically adorable movie EVER." Apparently I was misinformed. Then I thought, "I'll make a mint! This is worth more than all my Toy Story residuals combined!" Apparently I am seldom informed of anything. And possibly a little slow. But seriously, are vampires even popular any more? I always hoped that Buffy would live on even after my death. But, you know, AFTER. I don't love the idea of my creation in other hands, but I'm also well aware that many more hands than mine went into making that show what it was. And there is no legal grounds for doing anything other than sighing audibly. I can't wish people who are passionate about my little myth ill. I can, however, take this time to announce that I'm making a Batman movie. Because there's a franchise that truly needs updating. So look for The Dark Knight Rises Way Earlier Than That Other One And Also More Cheaply And In Toronto, rebooting into a theater near you. Leave me to my pain! Sincerely, Joss Whedon perezhilton.com/2010-11-23-joss-whedon-makes-highlarious-commentary-on-the-new-buffy-reboot |
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dravenuk
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Post by dravenuk on Nov 23, 2010 12:32:01 GMT -5
No Arthur Conan Doyle, no Sherlock Holmes? No Euripides, no Hercules? No Pythagoras, no Theorem? Come off it. All of the cases you mention are ones in which the original author is long, long dead. In fact, all of those characters/things are legally in the public domain. It's fundamentally unethical to steal a creator's character when he's still alive, still telling his own stories with that character, and doesn't approve. I agree. Although I wouldn't go quite so far as to call it stealing. Like it or not (and I don't like it), Warner and Atlas have every legal right to do what they are doing. What it is is unethical and incredibly disrespectful to Joss and to the fans. And I for one will be steering well clear. |
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Post by Scarygothgirl on Nov 23, 2010 13:58:28 GMT -5
I think it is very unethical to do this with Joss still around. I could possibly understand if they wanted to buy the rights and do a reboot with Joss's approval, but to not even consult him on the issue seems a little bitchy. Buffy is his baby. And yes all children do gorw up, move on and gain their independance, but they don't completely cut ties with their parents with no good reason... Am I going a bit weird with all these metaphors?
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Post by CowboyGuy on Nov 23, 2010 14:32:20 GMT -5
It's all about the money, honey.
But, to all of us this is just unfair. My Mom, a casual viewer is happy with the news because she likes "Buffy" overall, but doesn't know the behind the scenes, or the difference between Joss/not Joss because she never saw the original film.
The more I think about it, I would rather them use the television show's characters because if they are going to put this thing out I want it to be the best it can be. Without Willow, Giles, Angel, and Xander, Joyce, etc...what would a Buffy movie be?
If the ship is sinking, if this is gonna happen whether we hate the idea or not, I'd at least hope that the new representation of Buffy includes the characters I love. I don't want to sit around and be negative about it, we know it will not be Joss' vision. But if this is coming out, I hope it does well and most of all I hope it does not tarnish "Buffy" to the general public.
And secondly, this will undoubtedly bring a thousand new fans to the series. I hope!
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Post by buffyfan21 on Nov 23, 2010 15:16:09 GMT -5
Know I haven't been around for a bit but I just had to drop in and share my two cents..I don't like this..AT ALL! The whole thing makes me both sad and angry simultaneously.  |
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