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Post by wenxina on Jan 4, 2010 20:13:13 GMT -5
Ack... let that name be struck from the annals (so wanted to pun there... *le sigh*)! He'll be smug regardless... name in print kinda does that kinda thing for him.
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Jan 4, 2010 21:14:38 GMT -5
Miaow. Looking for a catfight Wenxina, in case he's coming by the forum? (I figured the catfight thing could work, since you're both gay. Not sure if that's prejudiced or funny.)
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Post by The Girl In Question on Jan 4, 2010 21:30:32 GMT -5
I found the complaint about the slayers' bodies in the Slay the Critics annoying. George has stayed true to the figures of the actors (especially Faith, I've noticed). And while there could be more of a variety of body types of the other slayers, that doesn't change the fact that there have been slayers of different sizes. Especially in issue 5 (not drawn by Georges, but still). And it's not like any of the slayers have rediculous, unebelievable figures.
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Post by wenxina on Jan 4, 2010 21:35:39 GMT -5
Miaow. Looking for a catfight Wenxina, in case he's coming by the forum? (I figured the catfight thing could work, since you're both gay. Not sure if that's prejudiced or funny.) If he's still swinging by here, he kinda needs a new hobby. Either way, my brother and I used to flat-out brawl, so a catfight will not happen. And hey, I only speak the truth.
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Post by Alexiness on Jan 5, 2010 3:40:37 GMT -5
This issue was really confusing for me, I honestly didn't fully understand a lot of what was going on. It seemed like they were speaking in riddles for the majority of the interaction in this issue and I was left really confused by the end of it because I had no idea what had exactly happened.
Am I alone in this? :/
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Post by wenxina on Jan 5, 2010 8:05:10 GMT -5
You're probably not alone in this. If you like, you can check out the reviews that Emmie and I posted on the SlayAlive blog. We go pretty in-depth there, and that may help you understand the issue better. Hope that helps.
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Post by henzINNIT on Jan 5, 2010 8:42:33 GMT -5
I found the complaint about the slayers' bodies in the Slay the Critics annoying. George has stayed true to the figures of the actors (especially Faith, I've noticed). And while there could be more of a variety of body types of the other slayers, that doesn't change the fact that there have been slayers of different sizes. Especially in issue 5 (not drawn by Georges, but still). And it's not like any of the slayers have rediculous, unebelievable figures. I did too. There's limits to how slavish the art can be to the proportions of the actors but it's been great so far. I've heard and aired some criticisms about the art of the series, the people have never been a problem to me. If we're talking about unnecessarily objectifying women, the TV series is more to blame for casting a group of babes in the first place, lol.
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Post by Alexiness on Jan 6, 2010 6:05:21 GMT -5
You're probably not alone in this. If you like, you can check out the reviews that Emmie and I posted on the SlayAlive blog. We go pretty in-depth there, and that may help you understand the issue better. Hope that helps. Yeah, I'll check it out. Thanks.
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Post by cutiepatootie on Jan 9, 2010 11:00:19 GMT -5
Got a real "Restless" vibe to this issue. It was interesting that Willow activley chose Saga Vasuki, I always imaged that Willow would of been the one to convince Saga Vasuki to apprentice her.
I liked the scene where Willow handed the Dark Knight's ass to him, her facial expression was really well done.
Also, the likeness of the one panel of Willow's face when she sees Tara was almost spot on likeness wise.
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Post by BenTaylor3907 on Jan 9, 2010 14:12:53 GMT -5
Could we stop the Mikey-bashing, please? He's my friend and I think he's cool beans.
As for Goddesses and Monster, I enjoyed the little one-shot. I was thrilled to see the the elementals again. Aw, Tara looked so pretty. So thats how Willow and Lady Saga Vasuki came to pass? I wish there could have been more... it just didn't seem to be enough. Karl Moline's work was awesome though, as usual. I really enjoyed Muffit, I thought she was funny, I'd like to see her again.
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Post by rmw on Jan 11, 2010 20:47:09 GMT -5
Not really a big fan of this issue. The story was all right, but Moline's artwork as far as keeping the likeness of the characters falls short. Willow doesn't even look like Willow most of the time. But I loved his work on Fray, mainly because Fray wasn't a character I had come to expecting appearing a certain way.
Sometimes the artwork reminds me of a caricature.
Tara looked awesome though.
While I didn't 100% enjoy the issue, I would really like to find out more about what happened while Willow was on her journey.
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Post by SlayerLV on Jan 12, 2010 1:21:10 GMT -5
I thought this was an OK issue. It was great to see an image of Tara and I'm happy that they have officially laid her to rest. I'm going to read it again to fully understand the issue though, I kinda rushed through the first time and got confused. I did find the little joke at the end where Willow comes out of the water naked and says "Goddess that water is cold" and Saga responds by looking at Willow and saying "Yes I see."
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Jan 12, 2010 14:04:22 GMT -5
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Post by Whedon Fan on Jan 16, 2010 16:32:21 GMT -5
Was late to the party with this one. very nice issue. was good to have a bit willow time what with all the slayers kicking around these days it felt good to get to know abit more about what willow has been up tp pre season 8. I would really like a few more issues letting us know about what some of the other scoobies got up to pre season 8. How did robin and faith split up, why did they choose to go to scotland etc. . . question though, is this just a part 1 one shot. Could there be more? Seemed like there is still more story to tell about willows walkabout.
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Post by DorothyFan1 on Jan 16, 2010 16:34:15 GMT -5
Can you imagine the numbers had the cover shown Willow and Kennedy? Just a thought. Which reminds me...anybody think whether or not this couple will survive or will they break up? In other words..is Kennedy really the ONE for Willow? I doubt it. Seems to me Willow deserves somebody better than this.
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Post by wenxina on Jan 16, 2010 18:43:37 GMT -5
I have no beef with Kennedy. She was exactly what Willow needed when she doubted herself, and continues to be Willow's one-woman support team whenever they're alone. On top of all that, Kennedy has shown an innate understanding of Willow, even when she doesn't really know it. Even though she doesn't know that Willow's real motivation of undergoing the magical walkabout is Tara, she still fears being left behind, as shown by her asking Willow to not forget her. Willow also chose to put Tara to rest, finally saying goodbye, and thus choosing her future. As this is a prequel of sorts, that future, at the moment, involves Kennedy.
Also, in "ToYL", when Buffy asks FDW how Kennedy was, FDW's response is not, "Well, we stopped being good for each other" or something to hint that she neither knew nor cared. Her response was a rather wistful reminder of Kennedy's mortality, that she wouldn't be alive some 200 years in the future.
On a separate note, it's been more than implied that Willow has at least psycho-cheated on Kennedy with Aluwyn, whereas Kennedy has stayed faithful thus far. So, if we're going to argue which one of the two deserve better, it's Kennedy. I'm not arguing that the two will remain together till death parts them, but that it's unfair that the basis of the hope of splitting them up is because Kennedy is deemed not good enough. Perhaps Kennedy will die. Perhaps something bad happens to Willow. Perhaps the Aluwyn secret breaks them up. Or something along those lines. But none of the proposed possibilities would be because of any fault on Kennedy's part.
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Post by DorothyFan1 on Jan 16, 2010 19:08:31 GMT -5
I have no beef with Kennedy. She was exactly what Willow needed when she doubted herself, and continues to be Willow's one-woman support team whenever they're alone. On top of all that, Kennedy has shown an innate understanding of Willow, even when she doesn't really know it. Even though she doesn't know that Willow's real motivation of undergoing the magical walkabout is Tara, she still fears being left behind, as shown by her asking Willow to not forget her. Willow also chose to put Tara to rest, finally saying goodbye, and thus choosing her future. As this is a prequel of sorts, that future, at the moment, involves Kennedy. Also, in "ToYL", when Buffy asks FDW how Kennedy was, FDW's response is not, "Well, we stopped being good for each other" or something to hint that she neither knew nor cared. Her response was a rather wistful reminder of Kennedy's mortality, that she wouldn't be alive some 200 years in the future. On a separate note, it's been more than implied that Willow has at least psycho-cheated on Kennedy with Aluwyn, whereas Kennedy has stayed faithful thus far. So, if we're going to argue which one of the two deserve better, it's Kennedy. I'm not arguing that the two will remain together till death parts them, but that it's unfair that the basis of the hope of splitting them up is because Kennedy is deemed not good enough. Perhaps Kennedy will die. Perhaps something bad happens to Willow. Perhaps the Aluwyn secret breaks them up. Or something along those lines. But none of the proposed possibilities would be because of any fault on Kennedy's part. You make good points...possibly covering all the angles to Willow/Kennedy. However I'm referring to the idea that there is a special ONE person for everyone theory. Going by this analysis the answer is no - Kennedy isn't the right one for Willow. She's not a Scoobie. In fact we never see Kennedy interact with anyone other than Willow or the other Slayers. No one on one conversations with Xander, Dawn, Giles or even the heroine herself...Buffy. Not a good sign in my opinion. Using this as a yardstick Kennedy seems more like a bridge and once Willow crosses that bridge...she'll go her own way. In fact Aluwyn told Willow "Forget her." In other words for Willow to really get at the heart of who she really is and what her power represents...Willow will have to give up Kennedy.
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Post by wenxina on Jan 16, 2010 19:28:22 GMT -5
You make good points...possibly covering all the angles to Willow/Kennedy. However I'm referring to the idea that there is a special ONE person for everyone theory. Going by this analysis the answer is no - Kennedy isn't the right one for Willow. She's not a Scoobie. In fact we never see Kennedy interact with anyone other than Willow or the other Slayers. No one on one conversations with Xander, Dawn, Giles or even the heroine herself...Buffy. Not a good sign in my opinion. The reason for Kennedy's isolation is explained in #10. Willow has intentionally kept her away from the others, specifically Buffy, but since the others tend to gravitate around Buffy, she's kept away from them by default. Willow blames herself for Tara's death, because she brought Buffy back, and Warren tried to kill Buffy, and a stray bullet killed Tara. It may not really make sense, but when people blame themselves for things that happen outside their capability to prevent it, it's often kinda nonsensical in terms of logic. In fact Aluwyn told Willow "Forget her." In other words for Willow to really get at the heart of who she really is and what her power represents...Willow will have to give up Kennedy. Yes, but this was before Willow figured out that Aluwyn was effectively leading her in circles, trying to keep her in a loop for her own amusement, as well as more carnal desires. Whether or not Willow has to "forget" Kennedy remains to be seen. In #15, Willow is told that she cannot hide from what she is, or what's to come by Aluwyn. If that's true, there may be a sacrifice that needs to be made at some point, but this again, wouldn't be of any fault of Kennedy's. Or Willow's, if she was choosing something for good.
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Post by DorothyFan1 on Jan 16, 2010 19:49:09 GMT -5
Whether or not Willow has to "forget" Kennedy remains to be seen. In #15, Willow is told that she cannot hide from what she is, or what's to come by Aluwyn. If that's true, there may be a sacrifice that needs to be made at some point, but this again, wouldn't be of any fault of Kennedy's. Or Willow's, if she was choosing something for good. All indications right now suggests that's exactly what's coming...a sacrifice. Who is going to be "sacrificed" remains to be seen. But one thing is for sure...it's magic that will be on the line. Willow will be in the thick of it.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Jan 16, 2010 23:13:51 GMT -5
Bear in mind that there has never been a successful long-term loving relationship in the Buffyverse, ever.
Unless Joss decides to be contrary because so many people hate Willow/Kennedy, and chooses them for the one couple that stays together to old age.
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