collex
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Post by collex on Dec 17, 2009 16:06:57 GMT -5
I don't think the thing on is cheek is supposed to be a cheekbone...It stops at his too early. I think you guys are looking too hard for nothing. It simply looks like a shadow to me. Not a cheek bone. Not an eyepatch or tatoo. Are you talking about what I'm talking about? If yes, then that "thing" is not on his cheek but much higher, in direct continuation of where his eye would be.
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Smashed
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Post by Smashed on Dec 17, 2009 16:18:48 GMT -5
Vampire Xander?
That would be a REALLY interesting twist! I kind of love that.
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Post by Smashed on Dec 17, 2009 16:24:27 GMT -5
In regard to the supposed "eyepatch", I don't know what that is. It really doesn't look like an eyepatch "string" at all. If it were, why would it be going under his eye? The angles of it are just not right for it to be an eyepatch. (PS, how do I edit posts? The new-ish set up is messing me up! )
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Post by Skytteflickan88 on Dec 17, 2009 16:31:20 GMT -5
The edit-button is in the same place for me. To the right on the line above the message.
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Post by Randi Giles on Dec 27, 2009 20:24:44 GMT -5
I honestly don't know what to think about Twilight anymore as far as his identity goes.
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Dec 27, 2009 21:29:12 GMT -5
I honestly don't know what to think about Twilight anymore as far as his identity goes. Join the club. I gave up close to the beginning of Retreat. Gives me fits trying to figure out who he is. I'm just gonna ride the story wave and see where Joss takes me.
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Post by DorothyFan1 on Jan 5, 2010 13:15:08 GMT -5
I remember reading a bizarre theory on this. Someone posted the wild idea that Twilight is actually a melding of all the Scoobies in one body. Buffy, Willow, Xander and Giles. I can't help but remember the comment George Jeanty mentioned on the topic of Twilight - "Twilight, yeah....now that's actually a difficult one for me to draw." I was puzzled by this comment. The reasoning for the idea of Twilight being a melding is because we're dealing with a future Buffy who apparently decides that her past actions need to be "corrected"...and she creates this Twilight character to eliminate her past mistake by getting rid of the Slayer army.
The only thing wrong with this brilliant idea is that Twilight is out to destroy ALL MAGIC. If you'll remember Buffy met the first Watchers in Season 7 and we learned they used magic to create the Slayer line. Buffy rejected their "solution" to merge herself to a demon and broke that chain. I'm wondering if Buffy's action in that scene is actually what is coming back to haunt her in the identity of Twilight. Since Buffy "rejected" magic she's now facing an adversary who takes her choice to the extreme...by destroying all magic.
I can't help but wonder how Twilight's reasoning to destroy magic has to tie in with Willow's subplot arc. I really do believe Twilight will convince Buffy to go against her belief system and betray Willow. This would definitely cause Willow to turn Dark...and fulfill the 200 year future showing Willow as evil yet again. But I have to think Willow thought of this and has figured out to counter Twilight by her actions in that issue...with Buffy killing herself in the future. This action in the future will affect whatever goes down in the present. So whatever endgame there is here...will have been decided by what Buffy did in the future.
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Post by wenxina on Jan 5, 2010 13:39:42 GMT -5
Your entire supposition hinges on the assumption that FDW is evil. That hasn't been established, and many don't interpret FDW as being evil. Heck, even Dark Willow back in the day wasn't really evil... just a giant ball of pain, grief, rage, and vengeance (all "evils" of man, but not evil in the usual sense of the word). But meh, semantics. Point is, FDW may not be evil. I don't think she is.
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Post by DorothyFan1 on Jan 5, 2010 14:12:10 GMT -5
Your entire supposition hinges on the assumption that FDW is evil. That hasn't been established, and many don't interpret FDW as being evil. Heck, even Dark Willow back in the day wasn't really evil... just a giant ball of pain, grief, rage, and vengeance (all "evils" of man, but not evil in the usual sense of the word). But meh, semantics. Point is, FDW may not be evil. I don't think she is. You know...I really do hope we get a Willow spinoff. She deserves one. I don't think Buffy appreciates how important Willow is to her organization and I think Buffy is getting too much credit for all her success. So if anything happened to Willow I wouldn't continue reading the Buffy comics. To me...Buffy is merely the conduit to seeing what Willow does and what happens to her.
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Post by CowboyGuy on Jan 5, 2010 14:45:44 GMT -5
Your entire supposition hinges on the assumption that FDW is evil. That hasn't been established, and many don't interpret FDW as being evil. Heck, even Dark Willow back in the day wasn't really evil... just a giant ball of pain, grief, rage, and vengeance (all "evils" of man, but not evil in the usual sense of the word). But meh, semantics. Point is, FDW may not be evil. I don't think she is. You know...I really do hope we get a Willow spinoff. She deserves one. I don't think Buffy appreciates how important Willow is to her organization and I think Buffy is getting too much credit for all her success. So if anything happened to Willow I wouldn't continue reading the Buffy comics. To me...Buffy is merely the conduit to seeing what Willow does and what happens to her. I agree with wanting a Willow spin-off since it would mean we'd probably get more back-story and insight into the Buffyverse overall.
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Post by DorothyFan1 on Jan 5, 2010 15:15:13 GMT -5
Ask yourself...why are we getting Ganderfleb, Dark Knight and Muffitt for? I can't help but hope this is a sign a Willow spin off is on the way.
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Post by henzINNIT on Jan 5, 2010 15:49:37 GMT -5
Why seperate a pivitol character from a series that spends plenty of time developing her? I don't see it happening personally, she's too important to Buffy -the person and the show.
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Post by Midnight Butterfly on Jan 5, 2010 15:54:18 GMT -5
Why seperate a pivitol character from a series that spends plenty of time developing her? I don't see it happening personally, she's too important to Buffy. I agree. A few more Willow one-shots every now and again would be cool but Willow is to important to Buffy to go running off into her own spin off.
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Post by wenxina on Jan 5, 2010 16:16:08 GMT -5
Ask yourself...why are we getting Ganderfleb, Dark Knight and Muffitt for? I can't help but hope this is a sign a Willow spin off is on the way. Your question implicitly suggests that the Willow one-shot is some part of Joss' grand plan. Problem is, as has been said multiple times now, it was merely filler. Good filler, mind you. Not slighting it in any way at all. But the entire reason for its conception was to give Georges some lead time for the next arc. Why Ganderfleb, the Dark Knight, and Muffitt? Because the comic would've been very empty without them. And also because they were Aluwyn's posse, and the Dark Knight was actually pivotal in getting Willow to realize that the cliches being thrown at her were not her actual path.
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Post by DorothyFan1 on Jan 5, 2010 16:44:57 GMT -5
Ask yourself...why are we getting Ganderfleb, Dark Knight and Muffitt for? I can't help but hope this is a sign a Willow spin off is on the way. Your question implicitly suggests that the Willow one-shot is some part of Joss' grand plan. Problem is, as has been said multiple times now, it was merely filler. Good filler, mind you. Not slighting it in any way at all. But the entire reason for its conception was to give Georges some lead time for the next arc. Why Ganderfleb, the Dark Knight, and Muffitt? Because the comic would've been very empty without them. And also because they were Aluwyn's posse, and the Dark Knight was actually pivotal in getting Willow to realize that the cliches being thrown at her were not her actual path. Awww. Darn. Willow is such a good character that I think she deserves a spin-off. As to Willow being so important to Buffy...how is that? I'm not seeing how Willow is that important to Buffy...even after all these years. So somebody clue me in...why is Willow so important to Buffy?
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Post by Midnight Butterfly on Jan 5, 2010 16:55:54 GMT -5
Your question implicitly suggests that the Willow one-shot is some part of Joss' grand plan. Problem is, as has been said multiple times now, it was merely filler. Good filler, mind you. Not slighting it in any way at all. But the entire reason for its conception was to give Georges some lead time for the next arc. Why Ganderfleb, the Dark Knight, and Muffitt? Because the comic would've been very empty without them. And also because they were Aluwyn's posse, and the Dark Knight was actually pivotal in getting Willow to realize that the cliches being thrown at her were not her actual path. Awww. Darn. Willow is such a good character that I think she deserves a spin-off. As to Willow being so important to Buffy...how is that? I'm not seeing how Willow is that important to Buffy...even after all these years. So somebody clue me in...why is Willow so important to Buffy? I wasn't referring to Willow being important to Buffy's character, I am referring to Willow being important to the Buffy arc. Okat, lets say Willow gets a spin off, she runs off to be on her own or discover herself or whatever at the end of season eight and this leads to her not being there in season nine. Having a season of Buffy with no Willow is like having a season of Friends with no Monica and Having a Harry Potter book/film with no Hermione. Many fans will read season nine thinking nothing but 'I miss Willow'. Even though they will be getting there own installment of Willow through her spin-off, for many fans it won't be the same. Think of it like this, Buffy as we know it is a ham and cheese sandwich. We all love the ham and cheese sandwiches because we get to eat the bread, ham and cheese all in the one go. Take out the cheese and all of a sudden we have nothing but a ham sandwich, many of us don't like it, we want a slice of cheese. Sorry for rambling:D
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Post by Hallow Thorn on Jan 5, 2010 17:02:15 GMT -5
Awww. Darn. Willow is such a good character that I think she deserves a spin-off. As to Willow being so important to Buffy...how is that? I'm not seeing how Willow is that important to Buffy...even after all these years. So somebody clue me in...why is Willow so important to Buffy? I wasn't referring to Willow being important to Buffy's character, I am referring to Willow being important to the Buffy arc. Okat, lets say Willow gets a spin off, she runs off to be on her own or discover herself or whatever at the end of season eight and this leads to her not being there in season nine. Having a season of Buffy with no Willow is like having a season of Friends with no Monica and Having a Harry Potter book/film with no Hermione. Many fans will read season nine thinking nothing but 'I miss Willow'. Even though they will be getting there own installment of Willow through her spin-off, for many fans it won't be the same. Think of it like this, Buffy as we know it is a ham and cheese sandwich. We all love the ham and cheese sandwiches because we get to eat the bread, ham and cheese all in the one go. Take out the cheese and all of a sudden we have nothing but a ham sandwich, many of us don't like it, we want a slice of cheese. Sorry for rambling:D Then there is Angel Season 5 with no Cordelia, Buffy season 4 with no Angel and Season 8 with no Spike, but they always more or less seem to make it work with or without an important character.
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Post by Mathieu on Jan 5, 2010 17:58:03 GMT -5
Awww. Darn. Willow is such a good character that I think she deserves a spin-off. As to Willow being so important to Buffy...how is that? I'm not seeing how Willow is that important to Buffy...even after all these years. So somebody clue me in...why is Willow so important to Buffy? I wasn't referring to Willow being important to Buffy's character, I am referring to Willow being important to the Buffy arc. Okat, lets say Willow gets a spin off, she runs off to be on her own or discover herself or whatever at the end of season eight and this leads to her not being there in season nine. Having a season of Buffy with no Willow is like having a season of Friends with no Monica and Having a Harry Potter book/film with no Hermione. Many fans will read season nine thinking nothing but 'I miss Willow'. Even though they will be getting there own installment of Willow through her spin-off, for many fans it won't be the same. Think of it like this, Buffy as we know it is a ham and cheese sandwich. We all love the ham and cheese sandwiches because we get to eat the bread, ham and cheese all in the one go. Take out the cheese and all of a sudden we have nothing but a ham sandwich, many of us don't like it, we want a slice of cheese. Sorry for rambling:D Not that I mean to sabotage your agument... but I really hate cheese and a ham sandwich without cheese sounds perfect to me!
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Post by DorothyFan1 on Jan 5, 2010 18:07:58 GMT -5
It ultimately depends on what Joss is up to. Only he knows what's going to happen and how it's going to happen. We'll just have to wait and see. Although it would be great if somebody could ask him about the Willow spin-off idea.
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Post by wenxina on Jan 5, 2010 18:23:21 GMT -5
mathieu: Isn't it blasphemous for a Frenchman to say he hates cheese?
dorothyfan1: You're free to ask that question in the next Q&A with Allie, which will happen next week. Not Joss, but as good as it gets.
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