balesthebloody
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Post by balesthebloody on Dec 31, 2007 2:28:39 GMT -5
That being said I will always believe that he went to find a way to get his chip removed so he could kill her at the end of Season 6. He could kill her without the chip out. Remember he could hurt her all of Season 6. He went for the soul. It wouldn't be the first time because we all know Dru is not Spikes sire. Then who is? Do you get this statement from when in "School Hard" Spike refers to Angel as his sire? Joss stated that by "sire" he meant Angelus taught Spike everything he knew about being a vampire. Dru sired Spike so she could have a companion for the travels with Darla and Angelus.
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Post by buffysmglover on Dec 31, 2007 2:30:57 GMT -5
That being said I will always believe that he went to find a way to get his chip removed so he could kill her at the end of Season 6. He could kill her without the chip out. Remember he could hurt her all of Season 6. He went for the soul. It wouldn't be the first time because we all know Dru is not Spikes sire. Then who is? Do you get this statement from when in "School Hard" Spike refers to Angel as his sire? Joss stated that by "sire" he meant Angelus taught Spike everything he knew about being a vampire. Dru sired Spike so she could have a companion for the travels with Darla and Angelus. That is what Lee is refering too. See the chatbox
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Post by henzINNIT on Dec 31, 2007 12:10:13 GMT -5
About Angel & Cordy... Buffy and Angel was the love that couldn't work. Angel and Cordy was the love that never really happened. I think thats why Angel seemed more affected by it. Also, couple the fact that they were cheated out of their chance with new and improved evil Cordy playing him about and shagging his son, lol As far as Angel and Buffy; it's the dream relationship for the future; but you know as long as the stories roll out it'll never happen. Maybe a final ending ending... ending. Buffy and Spike though? She doesn't love him. Not enough for a relationship. I feel bad for Spuffy worshippers. Buffy and Xander sacres me most cause it will likely kill one of them Joss, lol
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lee
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Post by lee on Dec 31, 2007 13:20:04 GMT -5
Okay, sorry to open up some cans of worms with my comments. First, yes Spike could hurt Buffy all of S6. This is true. But he couldn't hurt anyone else - anyone she loved. That would've been the ultimate way to kill her and Spike would've known that. It's not like he wasn't constantly thinking about killing her/hurting her when he wasn't thinking about how much he loved her. Hello Vampire = evil. That and love makes you feel that way sometimes. If anything I might be able to buy that he was trying to become human but I doubt it simply because William was a puny little loser which Spike wouldn't want to be again. I just don't think he knew he was going to get his soul. He kept saying "put me back the way I was" and such not "gimme my soul". Sorry. Again, love Spike. Yes, I was reffering to School Hard and the "sire" comment. I get what Joss says, but I think the idea that Dru was Spike's sire was an after thought. I don't think it was the original cannon. That's just my opinion though. I love talking Buffy and disagreements are sometimes the best part. Then we get to dig deep into the stories for answers and debate different aspects. It's cool. Thanks for these forums and the great Buffy-geek speak.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Dec 31, 2007 13:26:12 GMT -5
I guess "put me back the way I was" could equal man. Joss said that the whole thing was a "plot twist". Spike even said in Season 7 that he did it for Buffy and in Angel Season 5 he said that he fought for his soul.
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lee
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Post by lee on Dec 31, 2007 14:19:57 GMT -5
I guess "put me back the way I was" could equal man. Joss said that the whole thing was a "plot twist". Spike even said in Season 7 that he did it for Buffy and in Angel Season 5 he said that he fought for his soul. You're absolutely right. I guess I am stubborn though because it seriously felt like an after thought to me. I argued with the tv during S7 because of it.
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alycat7
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Post by alycat7 on Dec 31, 2007 20:42:04 GMT -5
xander has always had a slight crush on Buffy since season 1, so its no surprise that they might get together.
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commandercool
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Post by commandercool on Dec 31, 2007 22:31:10 GMT -5
I don't think so. I got the impression personally that that crush was long, LONG gone. He thinks she's sexy, (of course), and he lets her know it (of course), but I think he realized a long time ago that his romantic feelings towards her were doomed and gave it up.
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Post by buffysmglover on Jan 1, 2008 6:07:15 GMT -5
I don't think so. I got the impression personally that that crush was long, LONG gone. He thinks she's sexy, (of course), and he lets her know it (of course), but I think he realized a long time ago that his romantic feelings towards her were doomed and gave it up. I've gone through that. And the moment that person gives you a sense of feeling the same way or gives you any more attention than normal, those feelings snap back immediatly.
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lee
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Post by lee on Jan 2, 2008 0:54:31 GMT -5
I have been watching season 7 for the past few days and I have really noticed a more pronounced sense of concern and adoration for Buffy on Xander's part - especially after he and Anya had their "one more time" thing. Hmm... just thought it might be something to think about.
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General Zod
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Post by General Zod on Jan 2, 2008 21:47:28 GMT -5
After everything they have been through I doubt it would work. In the first season mabye but after Buffy hooked up with Angel and Xander with Cordy the little mabye spark started to go out.
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emarie
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Post by emarie on Jan 6, 2008 2:10:24 GMT -5
Cordy and Angel worked for me because they were strong friends but not so much that they couldn't be more. He only really got to know her in season one of Angel and started falling for her in late season 2. Xander and Buffy are friends for ages now, and didn't one of them dream that he was her brother? I can not see Buffy ever working out with either Spike or Angel but if it HAD to be either Xander or no one I'd say fine IF Joss could make it believable. Right now it would just seem to me that Xander is her only option since the two other men around her are Giles and Andrew.
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Post by willowrosenberg on Jan 8, 2008 22:17:21 GMT -5
In the first issue of Season 8, it pretty much implys they are getting getter. Xander even kised Buffy to break the spell...
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Post by hitnrun017 on Jan 8, 2008 22:39:36 GMT -5
In the first issue of Season 8, it pretty much implys they are getting getter. Xander even kised Buffy to break the spell... Joss has actually confirmed, thanks to CowboyGuy, that it was actually Satsu who kissed Buffy.
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Post by buffysmglover on Jan 13, 2008 4:56:17 GMT -5
In the first issue of Season 8, it pretty much implys they are getting getter. Xander even kised Buffy to break the spell... Joss has actually confirmed, thanks to CowboyGuy, that it was actually Satsu who kissed Buffy. yeah, who in the world told you it was Xander?
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Post by roguewarrior on Jan 13, 2008 19:16:23 GMT -5
Joss has actually confirmed, thanks to CowboyGuy, that it was actually Satsu who kissed Buffy. yeah, who in the world told you it was Xander? I thought it was Xander until I heard about Satsu.
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alexa
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Post by alexa on Jan 14, 2008 1:11:30 GMT -5
I think we were meant to think it could be Xander.. He was so thinking about it. About time for some Bander...
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Slayer489
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Post by Slayer489 on Jan 14, 2008 10:51:56 GMT -5
I don't really want to get Buffy and Xander together. I know that he loved her until up to like the end of season 2 (see Killed By Death) and that she dreamed that him and her were kissing, but Buffy is bound to have dreams like that about Xander seeing as he is the only guy she sees everyday now.
I really like the brother/sister factor of Buffy and Xander's friendship. And kanga, your avatar just reminded me of the beautiful moment when Buffy and Xander held hands before they went off to battle. Lovely friendship moment. They didn't even have to say anything, it was lovely.
I mean never say never, if Joss could pull it off in a good way then I'm sure it will be fine, but I do love the friendship they have and don't really want that to change.
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Post by roguewarrior on Jan 14, 2008 22:15:10 GMT -5
ditto. I'd prefer it if Buffy, and Xander just stayed friends. I hated it when Xander and Willow where together.
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Slayer489
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Post by Slayer489 on Jan 15, 2008 12:00:15 GMT -5
ditto. I'd prefer it if Buffy, and Xander just stayed friends. I hated it when Xander and Willow where together. I thought the Willow and Xander fling was nice. Although it wasnt designed to last very long, which i'm glad it didn't.
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