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Post by Emmie on May 13, 2008 0:10:35 GMT -5
Is the scythe more trouble than its worth now?
Should Team Slayer hide the scythe away so no one evil can get their hands on it the way the TokyoVamps have?
It just seems so easy for the scythe to be stolen and used against the slayers. Maybe there was a reason that the Scythe hadn't been around for millennia while under the Guardians' watch.
And whatever happened to the "It is not for thee, it is for she alone to wield". Apparently anyone who gets their grubby hands on it can use it. It'd be cool if anyone other than a slayer would get zapped whenever they tried to touch the scythe...hmm Willow get on that.
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Post by Rachster on May 13, 2008 0:32:29 GMT -5
I think its time to hide the scythe away it done its job the potentials are slayers and now its just causing trouble
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Post by D'Hoffryn on May 13, 2008 1:32:15 GMT -5
that must be why the past slayers stuck it in the stone. only a slayer could king arthur it, maybe thats why caleab and the first wanted it, zap buffy easy victory.
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Post by wenxina on May 13, 2008 7:34:57 GMT -5
Well... if you think about it, it was technically very safe. Stuck in a fortress with an armed guard of Slayers, locked in some kinda vault with a combination code or something. Granted it should've been airtight, but hey, who's gonna get in there, right? And it's not like the Scythe will dry-rot or anything; that damn thing's been sitting in stone for a LONG time. Also... how the hell did the vampires breach the threshold... they weren't invited in, and technically, that's Buffy's home. So hmmm... even Dracula needed an invite from Joyce to enter.
I think it should be kept safer, but I don't know about locking it away in stone all over again. Is it more trouble than it's worth? Maybe. But it is the symbol of the Slayer... it is the weapon that gave the Potentials their power, and it's the weapon that Buffy carries. Mythic much... heck yeah. It was mythic even before the activation spell.
I think the "It is for her alone" bit just meant that only a Slayer could sense the innate power of the Scythe. However, cat's out of the bag, and I think as long as you have knowledge of that power, you can tap into it. Willow did, and if Kumiko's as feisty as they make her seem, she can probably work all sorts of mojo with it. Funny that she can't cast a global spell though, the way Willow did. Either speaks of her lower level of skill, or that such a spell is "unnatural" to the Scythe, and requires the gem/crystal thing to reverse its purpose.
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Post by hitnrun017 on May 13, 2008 14:18:03 GMT -5
I don't see how Buffy could be able to think that The Scythe is all amazing after it killed(?) a fellow Slayer. We know she uses it in Time of Your Life because her and Willow and go to New York on a tip. Maybe that's what they want to know, is the Scythe actually good? Or could it possibly be trouble? Sure, it made all Potentials into Slayers and has sort of Slayer essence, but what if that wasn't the point? Could the Guardian have been lying? I'm excited to learn more about it. Maybe Urkonn gave it to Meleka for a reason...
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Post by Lukee on May 13, 2008 14:31:59 GMT -5
Though Urkonn gave it to Fray because wood was like the rearrest thing around then I don't think its more trouble then its worth i mean it was in a place that was full of slayers, magics and security it wasn't like it was sat at the bottom of Buffy's bed now. If they hide the Scythe then it would be like trying to hide being a slayer. The Scythe is part of the slayer its the essence and all. Plus how where they to know it could be used to de-activate the slayers? The "It is not for thee, it is for she alone to wield" was the King Aurthering it out of the stone anyone can use the scythe once they get it. Like we have seen a few times.
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Post by Emmie on May 13, 2008 19:36:17 GMT -5
I think it would be cool if Willow could enchant the scythe so that only a slayer could use it. It would really cut down on all the evil baddies that could use it against the slayer army. 'Course they'd still have to worry about slayers-gone-bad.
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Post by nadir on May 13, 2008 20:23:57 GMT -5
What I wanna know is this. OK, so the scythe is this iconic slayer weapon, right? It embodies their strength, etc.? Isn't the whole slayer strength thing derived from demonic energies anyway? Smells like this thing could have a huge dark side to it.
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Post by alycat7 on May 13, 2008 20:55:27 GMT -5
I doubt that the scythe has a dark side to it.
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Post by Lukee on May 14, 2008 0:08:22 GMT -5
I think its more its powers could be used for good or evil so the Scythe isnt like evil so to speak but it can be used for good or bad depending on who uses it.
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Post by themaleslayer on May 14, 2008 18:08:31 GMT -5
Ok wierd theory, but if it can make a slayer and strip a slayer of her powers, could it be possbile to ressurect a slayer from the dead? I mean, Buffy and Faith felt an energy with it, so...
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Post by buffysmglover on May 14, 2008 18:22:18 GMT -5
Ok wierd theory, but if it can make a slayer and strip a slayer of her powers, could it be possbile to ressurect a slayer from the dead? I mean, Buffy and Faith felt an energy with it, so... I think that's a very cool possibility. Maybe a waste of time, though, if its true and is used in the comics. Are there any slayers we want to see resurrected other than Kendra? And do we really care if she's resurrected? That chick will just have her throat slit again.
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Post by themaleslayer on May 14, 2008 18:24:12 GMT -5
Ok wierd theory, but if it can make a slayer and strip a slayer of her powers, could it be possbile to ressurect a slayer from the dead? I mean, Buffy and Faith felt an energy with it, so... I think that's a very cool possibility. Maybe a waste of time, though, if its true and is used in the comics. Are there any slayers we want to see resurrected other than Kendra? And do we really care if she's resurrected? That chick will just have her throat slit again. Renee, if she truly is dead. Kendra? No. Never did like her.
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Post by buffysmglover on May 14, 2008 18:41:03 GMT -5
No, thank you. I can finally have Bander. LOL
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Post by CowboyGuy on May 14, 2008 18:53:05 GMT -5
I hope they give us more info on the Scythe soon. I wouldn't mind a whole issue devoted to it's history! We know:
It was forged in Egypt, by the Guardians and used in Sunnydale to kill the last pure demon on earth. After that it was embedded in the rock under the vineyard, and the Guardians went into hiding...and all of them died off. Then the gang assumed it was also a mystical item. Willow activated all the Potentials, and now we have Season 8's events. We also know it survives till the time of Fray, where she still uses it.
I think the Guardians created it, and tied it to the essence of the slayer. I don't know how that would be done though. I also think it's kinda dumb that vampires can wield it, and use it's power. I hope we get to the bottom of all this!
I wonder if the Scythe was used by the Primitive Slayer? If not, I wonder what slayer killed the last pure demon with it.
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Post by buffysmglover on May 14, 2008 18:58:33 GMT -5
Very interesting questions you've proposed.
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Post by themaleslayer on May 14, 2008 19:13:13 GMT -5
I hope they give us more info on the Scythe soon. I wouldn't mind a whole issue devoted to it's history! We know: It was forged in Egypt, by the Guardians and used in Sunnydale to kill the last pure demon on earth. After that it was embedded in the rock under the vineyard, and the Guardians went into hiding...and all of them died off. Then the gang assumed it was also a mystical item. Willow activated all the Potentials, and now we have Season 8's events. We also know it survives till the time of Fray, where she still uses it. I think the Guardians created it, and tied it to the essence of the slayer. I don't know how that would be done though. I also think it's kinda dumb that vampires can wield it, and use it's power. I hope we get to the bottom of all this! I wonder if the Scythe was used by the Primitive Slayer? If not, I wonder what slayer killed the last pure demon with it. I thought the slayer was made after the time of Pure Demons.
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Post by Emmie on May 14, 2008 19:20:00 GMT -5
No, the Guardians who created the scythe say that they forged it in secret and kept it from the Shadow Men so this was around the time of the primitive slayer, Sineya. Then it was used in Sunnydale to kill the last pure demon.
Cowboy Guy, how do we know it was created in Egypt? Did Giles or Willow say that? I know the Guardian lady said it was created halfway across the world from Sunnydale.
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Post by themaleslayer on May 14, 2008 19:22:31 GMT -5
No, the Guardians who created the scythe say that they forged it in secret and kept it from the Shadow Men so this was around the time of the primitive slayer, Sineya. Then it was used in Sunnydale to kill the last pure demon. Cowboy Guy, how do we know it was created in Egypt? Did Giles or Willow say that? I know the Guardian lady said it was created halfway across the world from Sunnydale. She sounded British. Maybe it was made in London, home of the Watchers Council?
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Post by CowboyGuy on May 14, 2008 19:30:20 GMT -5
No, the Guardians who created the scythe say that they forged it in secret and kept it from the Shadow Men so this was around the time of the primitive slayer, Sineya. Then it was used in Sunnydale to kill the last pure demon. Cowboy Guy, how do we know it was created in Egypt? Did Giles or Willow say that? I know the Guardian lady said it was created halfway across the world from Sunnydale. She said it was forged halfway around the world...to which Buffy replied "Hence the Luxor Casino theme..." Then the Guardian said " Forged there, it was put to use right here to kill the last pure demon that walked upon the earth. The rest were already driven under." Luxor is a casino in Las Vegas, a huge black pyramid all decked out with an Egyptian theme. I concluded that it was made in Egypt from that line. Do we know where the Primitive Slayer lived/died? Was it outside Sunnydale? Or was it in that same area? I wonder if Sineya traveled to California? On the Fool card in the upcoming Tarot deck, it shows Sineya standing over a glowing Seal of Danzalthar! Also...now I am dying to know...who was the second slayer? LOL too many questions!
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