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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 7, 2010 17:15:42 GMT -5
Great post, Caroline. I'm going to save it. In fact ... I think you can complete the sentence.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 6, 2010 21:12:44 GMT -5
I'm watching "Conversations With Dead People" right now. Holden seems to be a better fighter than most vampires, but no match for Buffy.
How would we answer this question? Not sure there's enough evidence. My subjective impression is that vampires may become more evil, more committed to the "vampiric life style" or "vampiric way of looking at things", but not stronger. A guess: the strength of a vampire depends mostly on the human body.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 6, 2010 21:09:28 GMT -5
My vote goes to Lilah Morgan. Holland Manners is close.
Come to think of it ... Holland Manners might be number one. He seems to be evil in an uncalculating way, as if it comes to him by nature, and I don't detect any natural feelings in him at all.
Angelus is scary, but he does have feelings. It's the coldness of Holland Manners that makes him so ... I don't know what.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 6, 2010 10:17:44 GMT -5
I'm not quite ready, but I'd like to be a watcher someday.
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Fray
Dec 6, 2010 9:00:20 GMT -5
Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 6, 2010 9:00:20 GMT -5
Remember when Fray visits Gunther, walking on top of his fish tank, and he expresses the wish that she would wear a skirt? I'm betting he's human.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 6, 2010 8:56:29 GMT -5
That makes more than three posts every day since you joined. Not bad.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 5, 2010 21:05:18 GMT -5
I always assumed that Giles simply used the school library's shelves for his private collection, alongside the library's books. He was in charge, who was there to complain, even if anybody noticed?
I suppose Buffy could've had a watcher who wasn't a librarian, but that wouldn't have been Giles, because being a librarian is part of his character.
The producers chose right here. There are good reasons why the Scoobies chose to gather on the Hellmouth, and why the Hellmouth was located in the library.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 5, 2010 20:38:20 GMT -5
I just did "Spin the Bottle," mentioned in another recent post. One of the best Angel episodes IMHO. Lots of good character work and ensemble acting. The Angel/Connor fight scene was among the best fighting in Angel, in the Jossverse really. Good timing and rhythm, lots of tasty double entendre and sight gags, gotta love it. Sadly, it was so reminiscent of "Tabula Rasa," that got in the way a bit for me. Actually, it was maybe better than Tabula Rasa, depending on how you look at it. I loved the glimpse we got of 17 year old Fred (can we score some weed?) and Wesley (head boy). Cordy is still a bit tubby from her recently concluded pregnancy.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 4, 2010 10:22:03 GMT -5
I haven't read every post in this thread ... has anyone linked before to Brian Curry's comment? hellmouthpodcast.com/movies/buffy-reboot-film-gets-green-light-hellmouth-podcast-responds#commentsBrian Curry does the Hellmouth Podcast, an episode by episode review of the whole TV series. It's a very good, thoughtful podcast IMHO. I'm pleased to say that he agrees with me, rufio above, and a few others who support this new film and hope it succeeds. Here's hoping you all follow this link and what he says.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 3, 2010 18:46:42 GMT -5
You're a Spander shipper? Who knew?
I just finished watching "Him," where Spike and Xander go out together to save Buffy from killing Wood (under the influence of a love spell, remember). It seems almost believable there.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 3, 2010 16:49:24 GMT -5
Absolutely I agree! I can see why some people think they overdid it, though. We need a little comic relief from time to time. I just finished watching "Him," perhaps the weakest episode in S7, but a nice break from the bleak.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 3, 2010 16:44:33 GMT -5
Just finished "Him," 7.6 I think. Cute. Buffy is full of homages, but this seems like an homage to Buffy, a self-homage. It's vintage S1 or S2. There was something not quite right about the editing, the rhythm was off, and the musical backgrounds seemed a bit ... loud, intrusive, not subtle enough? Best part was the acting, I didn't know SMG could be so sexy, I didn't know Michelle Trachtenberg could shake it like that (Xander: "Daddy like!"). And Allyson Hannigan was special too. The moment when she almost turned RJ into a woman was great. And don't forget when Spike saved Robin Wood's life. I wonder if Wood knew about that? He tried to kill spike later in the season.
Not great, but lots of fun.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 3, 2010 13:29:14 GMT -5
I must say that the whole pulled from heaven arc in s6 feels annoying and forced.... Ouch! I can't let that pass without protest. The Buffyverse doesn't really have a take on the afterlife (too controversial), but if you think there's any correlation at all between how a person behaved in life and her fate afterward, then after season 5 Buffy must end up in heaven or something like it. I don't anyone, in the verse or out, thought that Buffy in hell was a serious possibility, except Willow, who had a vested interest. Trying to bring Buffy back is just what Willow would do. Or so I think. Does anyone disagree? And if Buffy comes back, she has to come back from something like heaven. Doesn't that follow? What's forced about it? Remember the "dual soliloquy" of Buffy and Spike, when she tells him she was in heaven, and no one else must know? If I had to pick a favorite moment in the whole show, I think that would be it. And Buffy's turn to the dark side, her affair with Spike, seems natural when you consider that she lives by virtue of black magic. There are philosophies, including that of Plato, in which return to life is as natural as death. But the consensus in the Western world, which makes the background of everything in Buffy, is that death is natural and resurrection is violently unnatural and destructive of all order (the resurrection for which Christians hope seems to involve a rewriting of natural order and is a different thing). The vampire myth can be seen as a thought-experiment to illustrate this. Of course the resurrection of Buffy throws everything out of whack. That's how we get S7, and S8. It's all predictable, once Buffy comes back. Please explain to me what is forced or annoying about that. I'm flabbergasted, I haven't the foggiest notion what you're talking about.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 3, 2010 13:12:12 GMT -5
I've always been cynical about Xander. He's not a bad guy, but he's not that good, either. I don't think he's capable of Buffy-style passion or sacrifice.
He has a consistent pattern of wanting any girl that shows up on his radar (except Willow), and taking any girl he can get.
So who's his first love? I don't think he's had it yet. I didn't cast a vote.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 2, 2010 20:51:05 GMT -5
Just finished Selfless. I don't love this episode as much as some people do, but it definitely had some great moments. The most memorable moment was the reappearance of Dark Willow, just for half a second.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 2, 2010 8:31:57 GMT -5
So it's just as bad in the UK as it is here?
I spent one Christmas in Thailand, when I was in the Army. It was strange to walk around Udon Thani, a city that seemed to have about 100,000 people then, and see no sign of Christmas at all. I liked it, on the whole.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 1, 2010 9:28:22 GMT -5
Just finished "Supersymmetry." Not one of my favorites. It's relationship-oriented, and I'm not a shipper much. It's main purpose (how it serves the season arc) is to show Connor getting more attached to Cordelia, which bothers the still-good Cordelia, makes her come back to Angel (sort of). The ending was good. I almost liked Cordy there. It also marks the turning point in Fred-Gunn. The scene where Gunn kills Seidel was shocking when I first saw it, but it made sense later, good character-thinking. And then there's Wesley-Lilah, Lilah stalking Wesley. That's a creepy relationship, but it makes sense, and that's even more creepy.
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hey..
Dec 1, 2010 7:58:55 GMT -5
Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 1, 2010 7:58:55 GMT -5
Since you guys are rewatching the shows (aren't we all?) don't forget to update the "last Buffy/Angel episodes you watched" threads.
This is a good place to ask questions. I'm continually amazed how little I know about the Buffyverse. But what I don't know, somebody out there will.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Dec 1, 2010 7:56:41 GMT -5
Xander seemed to be attracted to Kendra, too. Or did I misread that? She also died.
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Post by midwesternwatcher on Nov 30, 2010 20:51:11 GMT -5
That was Andrew Crosset.
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