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Post by ambersknight on May 26, 2009 12:35:54 GMT -5
Okay, I really am gonna end up sounding blasphemous here but of all the actresses on the show, the least talented was probably SMG herself. I found ehr often one-note. perfectly serviceable as Buffy, but lets be honest it was often her co-stars that carried the show. SMG alone couldn't. So the idea of someone other than SMG doesn't shock me. it will certainly be strange, especially after growing so used to SMg in the role, but if the actress brings it home who are we to say it might not a be a great casting decision, whoever they bring in?
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Post by cheryl on May 26, 2009 12:41:00 GMT -5
OMG, are you kidding me? Sorry but I think we are living in two different dimensions and because of that are never going to find a common ground.
I'm not sure I can go further without stepping on toes, yes I am sure. I can't.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on May 26, 2009 12:45:29 GMT -5
The fact that there's zero chance of this movie getting made means it's pointless to argue about it.
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Post by iamthewalrus on May 26, 2009 12:45:38 GMT -5
Okay, I really am gonna end up sounding blasphemous here but of all the actresses on the show, the least talented was probably SMG herself. I found ehr often one-note. perfectly serviceable as Buffy, but lets be honest it was often her co-stars that carried the show. SMG alone couldn't. So the idea of someone other than SMG doesn't shock me. it will certainly be strange, especially after growing so used to SMg in the role, but if the actress brings it home who are we to say it might not a be a great casting decision, whoever they bring in? wow you basically just said Amber Benson is a better actress than SMG as much as i love Tara, AB isn't an amazing actress at all |
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Post by Rebecca on May 26, 2009 12:46:50 GMT -5
Whoever came up with this idea should go back and watch what the Kuzuis came up with the last time they tried to do a Buffy movie This sounds terrible, and sums up the supreme laziness in Hollywoodland of late Agreed. The ONLY reason the Kuzuis were kept as Executive Producers on Buffy and Angel were because they produced the original... and horrible movie. Even Joss thought it was bad... They had nothing to do with the franchise that Joss created with the television show, they just retained the rights. I disagree with Andrew, I believe the Kuzuis have every right to use "Buffy". However in harkening back to what they did with it the first time and the fact that they had ZERO to do with the Buffyverse we know and love, I have every conviction this movie, if it is picked up, will be an utter failure.Just look at the Kuzui's imdb resume: www.imdb.com/name/nm0476900/www.imdb.com/name/nm0476901/I agree with the vampire analogy... they suck on something pure and kill it. |
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Post by Paul on May 26, 2009 12:47:43 GMT -5
Okay, I really am gonna end up sounding blasphemous here but of all the actresses on the show, the least talented was probably SMG herself. I found ehr often one-note. perfectly serviceable as Buffy, but lets be honest it was often her co-stars that carried the show. SMG alone couldn't. So the idea of someone other than SMG doesn't shock me. it will certainly be strange, especially after growing so used to SMg in the role, but if the actress brings it home who are we to say it might not a be a great casting decision, whoever they bring in? Sorry, you lost me there, SMG is a stellar actress and the perfect Buffy. But that doesn't mean another actress couldn't play the part. Just because she wouldn't be "our" Buffy doesn't mean a new generation of fans couldn't accept a new actress in the role. |
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Post by harmindervamp on May 26, 2009 12:49:01 GMT -5
AmberKnight, Sarah Michelle Gellar is very talented. She can act really well, she could cry really well too. With all that drama acting she did in Buffy I have to say yes she can carry the show on her own if it was made to be done that way. She's the most talented actress out of them all, even the rest of the cast are really good.
But when I try to check out a show like Smallville, I can't get into it becuase their acting is not all that like the buffy cast.
SARAH MICHELLE GELLAR is one of the best actresses in the world and thats a fact.
I know her movie career isn't all that but her acting in The air I breathe was superb.
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Post by Rebecca on May 26, 2009 12:49:17 GMT -5
I know we all think it will be a HUGE failure. Hands up, who would see it, just to see that it was crap? Me, just so I can b*tch about it. |
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Post by iamthewalrus on May 26, 2009 12:50:18 GMT -5
I know we all think it will be a HUGE failure. Hands up, who would see it, just to see that it was crap? Me, just so I can b*tch about it. haha, that was why i went to see Twilight i'd go see it, unless it had terrible reviews |
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Post by ambersknight on May 26, 2009 12:54:32 GMT -5
I'm not saying SMG is a bad actress, just that I didn't think she was the best on the show. Most of her female cast members (and yes I do include AMber here) were better (although so much attention is on SMG for obvious reasons that the work done by others is largely unseen. My fave actresses on the show were Aly hannigan, Krstine Sutherland and Michelle trachtenberg who i thought did incredibly well given her age.
And I don't think it will be a terrible film,. I don't think it will be a brilliant film. i dont think anything cos there hasn't been enough info released about it to be able to make a judgement one way or another.
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Post by jellymoff on May 26, 2009 12:54:57 GMT -5
Okay, I really am gonna end up sounding blasphemous here but of all the actresses on the show, the least talented was probably SMG herself. I found ehr often one-note. perfectly serviceable as Buffy, but lets be honest it was often her co-stars that carried the show. SMG alone couldn't. So the idea of someone other than SMG doesn't shock me. it will certainly be strange, especially after growing so used to SMg in the role, but if the actress brings it home who are we to say it might not a be a great casting decision, whoever they bring in? wow you basically just said Amber Benson is a better actress than SMG as much as i love Tara, AB isn't an amazing actress at all Hey, easy on Amber there. I think she's great. |
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Post by AndrewCrossett on May 26, 2009 12:55:36 GMT -5
I disagree with Andrew, I believe the Kuzuis have every right to use "Buffy". That's a matter of the specific legalities, not of your or my opinion. All I can tell you is that the disclaimer on the Season 8 comics lists 20th Century Fox as the SOLE copyright and trademark holder for Buffy and all its characters. And even if someone else did hold a share of the rights, Fox's permission would still be needed for an exclusive film option. Anyway... if there was no studio interest in a Buffy movie WITH Joss's involvement... how much will there be WITHOUT his involvement, and with 90% of the fandom actively hostile towards the project? Not gonna happen. |
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Post by Rebecca on May 26, 2009 12:57:05 GMT -5
I'm not saying SMG is a bad actress, just that I didn't think she was the best on the show. Most of her female cast members (and yes I do include AMber here) were better (although so much attention is on SMG for obvious reasons that the work done by others is largely unseen. My fave actresses on the show were Aly hannigan, Krstine Sutherland and Michelle trachtenberg who i thought did incredibly well given her age. And I don't think it will be a terrible film,. I don't think it will be a brilliant film. i dont think anything cos there hasn't been enough info released about it to be able to make a judgement one way or another. You can begin to judge how good a movie is by the names being thrown out in connection to it. Fran and Kaz Kuzui have not made good films. Like ever. Look at their imdb pages. I have every confidence that a non-Jossian revamping of the Buffy'verse could work. However the fact that the Kuzuis are heading it... there is no confidence this will not be laughed at. I disagree with Andrew, I believe the Kuzuis have every right to use "Buffy". That's a matter of the specific legalities, not of your or my opinion. All I can tell you is that the disclaimer on the Season 8 comics lists 20th Century Fox as the SOLE copyright and trademark holder for Buffy and all its characters. They say that, but do they have the contracts to back it up? Why would Joss have the Kuzuis on as Executive Producers, sucking up studio production money, unless they had rights to it? I understand that their name isn't on the comics, so perhaps new contracts were laid out. I'd be interested in what they entail. |
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Post by ambersknight on May 26, 2009 12:59:51 GMT -5
And you may be right. All I'm saying its too early to say anything. They may ahve learned. Their part may be merely to produce it and leave the writing and directing to someone else who may ahve a vision that is respectful of the show but fresh enough to be seen on its own terms.
it could be that the film is something that intersts new viewers who, having enjoyed the film, go and check out the tv show.
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Post by Paul on May 26, 2009 13:00:39 GMT -5
Anyway... if there was no studio interest in a Buffy movie WITH Joss's involvement... how much will there be WITHOUT his involvement, and with 90% of the fandom actively hostile towards the project? The majority of the movie-going population who aren't existing Buffy fans, and don't spend their time on forums talking about how Joss Whedon craps gold. For better or worse, big-budget movies are not geared towards fans and mainstream audiences will not care about Joss' involvement. |
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Post by iamthewalrus on May 26, 2009 13:01:15 GMT -5
I'm not saying SMG is a bad actress, just that I didn't think she was the best on the show. Most of her female cast members (and yes I do include AMber here) were better (although so much attention is on SMG for obvious reasons that the work done by others is largely unseen. My fave actresses on the show were Aly hannigan, Krstine Sutherland and Michelle trachtenberg who i thought did incredibly well given her age. And I don't think it will be a terrible film,. I don't think it will be a brilliant film. i dont think anything cos there hasn't been enough info released about it to be able to make a judgement one way or another. i have to agree with you there, Alyson Hannigan and Michelle Trachtenberg are my top 2 actresses on the show, with Kristine in my top 5 i just thought it weird when you said SMG was the least talented out of all the actresses, cos in my opinion, even tho she's nowhere near my favourites, i can still see she is a great actress and not at all the least talented |
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Post by ambersknight on May 26, 2009 13:05:47 GMT -5
it was technically correct. if I think the majority if not all the main female actors in buffy were better than SMG (and I do) then it is correct to say i think she is the least talented of them. Doesn't mean she is bad, just not as good as the others IMHO.
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Post by Wyndam on May 26, 2009 13:05:53 GMT -5
I think it is perfectly fine to judge this movie before hearing more information about it. All this movie is, it's only purpose is to cash in on the recent success of Vampire literature and film, as well as the recent trend of series reboots and re-imaginings. Dassit. This movie will not amount to anything more than a Hollywood money making vehicle. It is just entirely too early for this to even be considered.
Wait 10 or 15 or 20 years and then think about doing a series reboot.
*facepalm*
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Post by AndrewCrossett on May 26, 2009 13:07:09 GMT -5
The majority of the movie-going population who aren't existing Buffy fans, and don't spend their time on forums talking about how Joss Whedon craps gold. For better or worse, big-budget movies are not geared towards fans and mainstream audiences will not care about Joss' involvement. Then if the majority of the movie-going public doesn't know or care about the Joss/Buffy legacy, why make it a Buffy movie in the first place? Make it a completely new franchise about a girl who fights vampires and demons. Neither Fox nor Joss owns the copyrights to that concept. It would be a ripoff, but what isn't in Hollywood these days? They want to do a *Buffy* movie specifically because they want to exploit the existing fanbase. And that fanbase does indeed believe that Joss craps gold. |
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Post by ambersknight on May 26, 2009 13:12:14 GMT -5
I am a fan of Buffy (just have certain problem with some storylines) but in general I love the show and Angel.
But do i think Joss craps gold? No. Why? Cos Firefly completely bounced off me. it is the only show I've had no emotional reaction to. Didn't like, didn't love it, didn't hate it, didn't dislike it. Just didn't do anything for me. Serenity was the same. So i can't say he craps gold cos sometimes his gold don't float my boat.
As for a movie Buffy. It has enough of a name amongst not only scifi and fantasy fans but also the general public who may never have seen the show but will have heard of it. As such it has a brand name that will travel and the producers feel, with some justification, that its a brand that can make money.
They are in the busines of money folks. Entertaining us is how they earn it but bucks are what these producers are after. They don't make Buffy for free.
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