Little stuff that bugged you.

[siredbyspike]

Jun 14, 2009 2:15:51 GMT -5 Hallow Thorn said:

It bugs me that all of there stuff is gone after chosen, do they even have a photo of Joyce? Jenny? or all the books and stuff they lost..

That has always bugged me too! Did they have all their clothes, a.t.m cards, pictures, birth certificates, etc. packed up and sent somewhere ahead of them for safekeeping? Cause they sure didn't have a thing with them on the bus when they left. And Buffy's so into shoes, you'd think she would have carried one pair with her or something.


And what about the banks in Sunnydale that weren't a part of a big chain? Or all the workers who's time cards got blown to smithereens- did they ever recieve some kind of last check? Granted, most of the town was abandoned at that point, but you'd think there would have to be some people left there to have to work and do certain jobs. And what happened to mail that was addressed there after it was a big crater? I guess i've just thought WAY too much about this... and all of that would be too time consuming and boring to explain to the viewers, but it always bugged me.

[Skytteflickan88]

I doubt they got their stuff sent anywhere, since it was pretty unexpected that the amulet would destroy Sunnydale.

And there was definitly some people left. Atleast Amy & Warren. And it was suggested in the comics that they ate anyone else who was left down there.

[gumgnome]

I think that it would cheapen the epic-ness of the finale if there were a scene where Buffy made sure her passport and credit card were safe...

[Just Willow]

yeah. i don't think Joss meant for us to wonder about all their stuff. But it makes sense that they left it behind, because they were all pretty sure they were gonna die anyways.

[buffyfan21]

Something that has always bugged me is in season 6 when Buffy comes back. She finds out they are running out of money and after failed attempts to get a loan she is finally forced to take a job at the Doublemeat. Now, my gripe is this, Willow and Tara were also living there at the time. Why didn't they get jobs to try and help Buffy out financially? Why did it fall on Buffy to be the only one to work? I mean, Willow and Tara were living there after all. It seems only fair that they should have done something to pitch in. As far as we know, Giles was the only one to ever help Buffy out.

Maybe something occurred off screen that we didn't see. Like maybe Willow and Tara helped Buffy out with some of their financial aid money from school or something?

Yeah, I know I've thought way too much about this, but its just always kinda bothered me. I have a hard time believing that Tara and Willow didn't help Buffy out in some way...

[buffyfan21]

Jun 14, 2009 11:35:24 GMT -5 Just Willow said:

yeah. i don't think Joss meant for us to wonder about all their stuff.

I'm sure he didn't attend for us to wonder about this kind of thing either as it really isn't important to the overall story. But I think we as fans wonder about this stuff b/c we want to believe in this world as real, so we try and look for the logic in everything.

[gumgnome]

Jun 14, 2009 13:51:22 GMT -5 buffyfan21 said:

Something that has always bugged me is in season 6 when Buffy comes back. She finds out they are running out of money and after failed attempts to get a loan she is finally forced to take a job at the Doublemeat. Now, my gripe is this, Willow and Tara were also living there at the time. Why didn't they get jobs to try and help Buffy out financially? Why did it fall on Buffy to be the only one to work? I mean, Willow and Tara were living there after all. It seems only fair that they should have done something to pitch in. As far as we know, Giles was the only one to ever help Buffy out.

Maybe something occurred off screen that we didn't see. Like maybe Willow and Tara helped Buffy out with some of their financial aid money from school or something?

Yeah, I know I've thought way too much about this, but its just always kinda bothered me. I have a hard time believing that Tara and Willow didn't help Buffy out in some way...

Weird. I had that exact conversation just a couple of days ago. I think that it's crazy that Willow doesn't quit college and get a job to help Buffy out. I mean she's feeling guilty about bringing Buffy back anyway, she's been living in the bloody house that's haemorrhaging (spelling?) all Buffy's money and with her brain you'd think she could get a pretty decent job pretty darn fast. So yeah, I think it's pretty selfish of her to wake up in Buffy's house and go to classes on the Social Construction of Reality when Buffy is having to slave over fast food counters to keep them afloat after being torn out of heaven....

[buffyfan21]

Jun 14, 2009 15:02:49 GMT -5 gumgnome said:

Jun 14, 2009 13:51:22 GMT -5 buffyfan21 said:

Something that has always bugged me is in season 6 when Buffy comes back. She finds out they are running out of money and after failed attempts to get a loan she is finally forced to take a job at the Doublemeat. Now, my gripe is this, Willow and Tara were also living there at the time. Why didn't they get jobs to try and help Buffy out financially? Why did it fall on Buffy to be the only one to work? I mean, Willow and Tara were living there after all. It seems only fair that they should have done something to pitch in. As far as we know, Giles was the only one to ever help Buffy out.

Maybe something occurred off screen that we didn't see. Like maybe Willow and Tara helped Buffy out with some of their financial aid money from school or something?

Yeah, I know I've thought way too much about this, but its just always kinda bothered me. I have a hard time believing that Tara and Willow didn't help Buffy out in some way...

Weird. I had that exact conversation just a couple of days ago. I think that it's crazy that Willow doesn't quit college and get a job to help Buffy out. I mean she's feeling guilty about bringing Buffy back anyway, she's been living in the bloody house that's haemorrhaging (spelling?) all Buffy's money and with her brain you'd think she could get a pretty decent job pretty darn fast. So yeah, I think it's pretty selfish of her to wake up in Buffy's house and go to classes on the Social Construction of Reality when Buffy is having to slave over fast food counters to keep them afloat after being torn out of heaven....

I completely agree! Couldn't have said it better.

[Just Willow]

I also agree, but sadly so, as Willow is my favorite character. So I will just cling to the fact that we have no proof that they never helped with money. They did also help raise Dawn for pretty much all of seaosn 6.

[henzINNIT]

I was gonna mention the finacial situation in season 6 as well. I used to get angry when Willow is telling Buffy she's broke... I'm like "you've been using her house for months you cheeky bit-ka"

You'd think with Willow's magic abuse theme, she'd think of magicking up some money at least once.

[Just Willow]

maybe she did magic up some money and help out while Buffy was dead. anything's possible if we never saw it...

[henzINNIT]

True that.

Quite a few not-so-little little things bothered me in Season 7.

The villain in Lessons.
Uber-vamps' varying strength.
The seal.
The first's (lack of) plan.
That argument.
The amulet.
Caleb's origin/power.
The scythe.
Joyce in CWDP.
The gang's (lack of) plan in chosen.

As for a real little thing, Anya chopping Ubers in Chosen... they dust but she clearly didn't cut off their heads.

[Mathieu]

Jun 14, 2009 16:54:01 GMT -5 Just Willow said:

maybe she did magic up some money and help out while Buffy was dead. anything's possible if we never saw it...

I hope she's not able to magic up any money or that would start being a real problem.

The thing is I'm sure she can.

But in this case, why did Buffy have to rob a bank?

[Just Willow]

in season 8 you mean? they robbed the bank for money for their entire operation. Helicopters, cameras, computers, weaponry, and the price of a castle has got to be pretty hefty. they had reason to do it, but it was still wrong.

[Mathieu]

Jun 14, 2009 17:18:29 GMT -5 Just Willow said:

in season 8 you mean? they robbed the bank for money for their entire operation. Helicopters, cameras, computers, weaponry, and the price of a castle has got to be pretty hefty. they had reason to do it, but it was still wrong.

No I mean, if Willow can actually magic up some money like you said, why would they have to steal money?

Instead of stealing money from a bank (which is very much illegal) they could just make some bills with the help of magic.

Which is still very illegal I'm sure.

[Just Willow]

oooh, why would the Trio rob a bank? i dunno. Jonathon isn't really anywhere near Willow's level of magic....but then again, we still have no evidence thats eh magicked money.

[iamthewalrus]

if she could magic up enough money to pay for it, why not just magic up all the equipment anyway?
it would of been much easier

[Just Willow]

i suppose that's a pretty big hole in that theory. i guess we'll just have to go with eitehr they didn't help at all, or they helped offscreen.

[Skeptic]

It bugs me that Buffy would even think that robbing a bank was the way to go. I get that Buffy's moving into a grey area of cognition and that it's part of the overall plot. And I can rationalize the bank heist til the cows come home. But it still bugs me she did it.

More than a few times I've tried to imagine what this scene would have looked like, if it were on TV, and Buffy was sitting down with a notebook and a pen and brainstorming on how to get gigantic wads of cash to fund the operation. Twiddle the pen, drop the pen, twiddle the pen, write down "rob a bank" because it's funny... twiddle the pen, stare at the "rob a bank" note, chuckle at herself... stare at the note, stop twiddling then pen, start to wonder if it's actually do-able...

It also bugs me that there's a gigantic crater where a city used to be, and it collapsed because of mystical energy, and there's practically nothing happening at the crater. Where's all the activity? Even a year or two later, I would expect to see some stragglers who come to gawk at the crater or study its mystical energy, not to mention a bigger military & government operation going on. Like, 12' walls with concertina wire and spotlights, maybe, to keep treasure-hunters out. But, all they show is this small, focused little military operation, working in just a small area.

I want to know what could have happened in the hours and days following the collapse, in terms of the media reaction and the government response. Because you know it would have been epic.

[Just Willow]

There's a lot of stuff about the comics that bug me, too. But canon is canon, and rabid fans need something...

yeah, I believe in Queen of the Slayers they really hit the media reaction bit of it, because it starts right when they're driving away form Sunnydale to make a new strt.