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Post by Skeptic on Jun 14, 2009 18:37:14 GMT -5
Queen of the Slayers? Did I miss an issue or something?  |
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Post by Just Willow on Jun 14, 2009 18:39:05 GMT -5
Queen of the Slayers? Did I miss an issue or something? ah, no. it's a non-canon novel. Queen of the Slayers and Dark Congress are the two most popular non-canon after-season-seven books out there. i prefer Dark Congress to the seaosn 8 comics, to tel the truth. |
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Post by Skeptic on Jun 14, 2009 18:54:59 GMT -5
Ohhh. Never read them. I've heard the names tossed around but I assumed they were fanfic or something, which I also don't read because I hate digging through a haystack of poo to find a needle. Oh yeah, fanfic bugs me, too.  |
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Post by Just Willow on Jun 14, 2009 18:58:10 GMT -5
Okay, I've agreed with you until now. I love fanfiction. Not weird fanfic where characters that would NEVER end up together are ogether. like Tara and Giles or Willow and Spike or something. That's weird. I try to keep my fanfic as canon as possible, and if i choose to write about a shipping, i chse one that might actually happen, had something different happened. (like the one i'm doing now, my absolute pride and joy, is about Willow and Fith. i mean, come on. you could see them getting together in seaosn 7 if Kennedy wasn't there.)
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Post by buffyfan21 on Jun 14, 2009 20:37:48 GMT -5
Weird. I had that exact conversation just a couple of days ago. I think that it's crazy that Willow doesn't quit college and get a job to help Buffy out. I mean she's feeling guilty about bringing Buffy back anyway, she's been living in the bloody house that's haemorrhaging (spelling?) all Buffy's money and with her brain you'd think she could get a pretty decent job pretty darn fast. So yeah, I think it's pretty selfish of her to wake up in Buffy's house and go to classes on the Social Construction of Reality when Buffy is having to slave over fast food counters to keep them afloat after being torn out of heaven.... Haven't you heard? If you stay in college, you're likely to get a better job and more money. I totally see her logic here!  Oh, I'm a firm believer in that logic, being a college grad myself. Sure, a college education is important, and I don't think anyone would believe that more than Willow, but I still think she could have helped Buffy out and continued her education. Lots of people do the school/work thing. |
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Post by Skeptic on Jun 15, 2009 17:26:00 GMT -5
Okay, I've agreed with you until now. I love fanfiction. Not weird fanfic where characters that would NEVER end up together are ogether. like Tara and Giles or Willow and Spike or something. That's weird. I try to keep my fanfic as canon as possible, and if i choose to write about a shipping, i chse one that might actually happen, had something different happened. (like the one i'm doing now, my absolute pride and joy, is about Willow and Fith. i mean, come on. you could see them getting together in seaosn 7 if Kennedy wasn't there.) Sorry. Most fanfic is horribly written. That's pretty much a fact. It's quite difficult to find a well-written piece of fanfic in any fandom, but for some reason it seems extra-difficult in the Buffy fandom. I've bandied some possibilities about with fellow Buffy friends, but in the end, I just gave up because I could no longer spend the time it took to dig and dig for well-written, mature, canon fanfic. I'm sure there's some out there, but it's discouraging to go looking for it. |
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Post by PJ on Jun 15, 2009 20:10:31 GMT -5
i was just watching season 6 over again and when tara got shot (seeing red.....duh) i always wondered why was she still standing in the same spot when she said "that's the best part"? bc wouldn't she have moved in the 5-10 mins it took for warren to show up? just another thing that bugged me....... |
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Post by El Diablo Robotico on Jun 16, 2009 0:26:12 GMT -5
The S6 financial situation has bugged me for awhile, too, after another fan pointed it out to me. Willow and Tara definitely should've been kicking in some $$ to help Buffy out. Plenty of kids hold down jobs while going to school. Even part-time jobs would've been enough, assuming all three of them had gotten them. Not to mention that Willow's mom is a successful psychologist, so her family certainly has money that Willow maybe could've dipped into. Just wondering: if they hadn't been able to bring Buffy back, what were Willow and Tara planning to do to pay the bills once the last of the cash ran out? But obviously, for the story the writers wanted to tell in S6, Buffy needed to go thru these things on her own with no real help from her friends, so they just overlooked the obvious plot-hole there...  |
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Post by gumgnome on Jun 16, 2009 5:08:34 GMT -5
Oooh! Thought of another thing that I hate every time I see it.
In "Spiral" on top of the bus while fighting the Knights of Byzantium, Buffy completely forgets that whole "I don't kill people" snag in her contract. I swear at one point she throws an axe at one of the Knight's chests, causing him to fall from a moving bus with a gaping wound.
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Post by PJ on Jun 16, 2009 11:42:15 GMT -5
Oooh! Thought of another thing that I hate every time I see it. In "Spiral" on top of the bus while fighting the Knights of Byzantium, Buffy completely forgets that whole "I don't kill people" snag in her contract. I swear at one point she throws an axe at one of the Knight's chests, causing him to fall from a moving bus with a gaping wound. ooooh!!!! bad buffy!!!!!!  |
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Post by Sam on Jun 16, 2009 14:14:28 GMT -5
Oooh! Thought of another thing that I hate every time I see it. In "Spiral" on top of the bus while fighting the Knights of Byzantium, Buffy completely forgets that whole "I don't kill people" snag in her contract. I swear at one point she throws an axe at one of the Knight's chests, causing him to fall from a moving bus with a gaping wound. I noticed that when I watched it two days ago. That relates to what I was going to post initially, actually. The fact that the writers always stress that everybody (even the good characters) have to face the consequences of their actions. There were a number of times when that didn't really happen. Also, in Weight of the World, Xander just stands there when him and Spike go to see Doc, and even after Doc's all like "so how'd that spell go with Dawn and her mother? Didn't do it, did she?" or something and I have no idea why Xander says absolutely nothing there. |
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Post by wenxina on Jun 16, 2009 15:48:52 GMT -5
Oooh! Thought of another thing that I hate every time I see it. In "Spiral" on top of the bus while fighting the Knights of Byzantium, Buffy completely forgets that whole "I don't kill people" snag in her contract. I swear at one point she throws an axe at one of the Knight's chests, causing him to fall from a moving bus with a gaping wound. I don't think sending them gift baskets of cookies would have done the trick. The fact remains that the knights attacked Buffy and her loved ones. The first time she dealt with them in "Checkpoint", she sent them off with a warning and a few bruises, but with no mortalities despite the fact that they tried to kill her. And considering the brutality of the fight, the mortality tally was rather low (pretty sure that the Captain/General guy mentions a body count), before Glory showed up and made quick work of them all. |
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Post by Nicholas on Jun 17, 2009 2:48:45 GMT -5
One thing I have always wondered about was when Anya and Xander "almost" had there wedding or whatever, why Giles wasn't there. Anya, and the rest of the gang of course, LOVED Giles. It always seemed weird that he wasn't there.
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Post by gumgnome on Jun 17, 2009 12:41:21 GMT -5
Oooh! Thought of another thing that I hate every time I see it. In "Spiral" on top of the bus while fighting the Knights of Byzantium, Buffy completely forgets that whole "I don't kill people" snag in her contract. I swear at one point she throws an axe at one of the Knight's chests, causing him to fall from a moving bus with a gaping wound. I don't think sending them gift baskets of cookies would have done the trick. The fact remains that the knights attacked Buffy and her loved ones. The first time she dealt with them in "Checkpoint", she sent them off with a warning and a few bruises, but with no mortalities despite the fact that they tried to kill her. And considering the brutality of the fight, the mortality tally was rather low (pretty sure that the Captain/General guy mentions a body count), before Glory showed up and made quick work of them all. Whether it's justified or not is irrelevant. She has made a big deal in the past about it being a no-no to kill humans, and she doesn't even blink when she starts a body count herself. Nicholas: you're totally right! I'd never thought about that before. He'd surely have an invite! |
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Post by Greer on Jun 17, 2009 18:15:09 GMT -5
One thing I have always wondered about was when Anya and Xander "almost" had there wedding or whatever, why Giles wasn't there. Anya, and the rest of the gang of course, LOVED Giles. It always seemed weird that he wasn't there. That's always bothered me too! I mean, Giles was extremely important. It seems as though he should've been in the ceremony or at least a part of the ceremony in some way, doing some reading or something official. I mean, he sent nice flowers, but really? I know it was most likely a scheduling thing, but it was noticeably odd that he wasn't there. |
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Post by hitnrun017 on Jun 17, 2009 18:22:28 GMT -5
It makes no sense for Giles to not be at the wedding or at least mentioned in the episode, but it would've taken away from his amazing comeback in Grave, the shock value might have been close to zero. Now that it passed it's very annoying, but I get why the writers did it.
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Post by wenxina on Jun 17, 2009 18:27:55 GMT -5
Whether it's justified or not is irrelevant. She has made a big deal in the past about it being a no-no to kill humans, and she doesn't even blink when she starts a body count herself. It's entirely relevant since every time she's made a big deal about a "no kill" policy, killing wasn't the only solution. In this case, hurling an axe or knocking them off the trailer had a high potential of causing a fatality anyway. It was that, or being killed for not doing anything. She was protecting her sister and friends (essentially her family). I don't think any of them would give her any grief about killing a few would-be mass murderers. |
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Post by Paul on Jun 17, 2009 18:28:21 GMT -5
It makes no sense for Giles to not be at the wedding or at least mentioned in the episode, but it would've taken away from his amazing comeback in Grave, the shock value might have been close to zero. Now that it passed it's very annoying, but I get why the writers did it. Yeah, I think it would have detracted from his entrance in "Villains". I think it was explained in the original script that he couldn't come because there was some major demonic threat in England. There was a reason for it. |
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Post by Mathieu on Jun 17, 2009 19:11:58 GMT -5
Whether it's justified or not is irrelevant. She has made a big deal in the past about it being a no-no to kill humans, and she doesn't even blink when she starts a body count herself. It's entirely relevant since every time she's made a big deal about a "no kill" policy, killing wasn't the only solution. In this case, hurling an axe or knocking them off the trailer had a high potential of causing a fatality anyway. It was that, or being killed for not doing anything. She was protecting her sister and friends (essentially her family). I don't think any of them would give her any grief about killing a few would-be mass murderers. Agreed a 100%. It never bothered me that she decided to actually defend herself even at the cost of human lives during that episode. I mean hello!! She was clearly in a position where she had no choice! |
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Post by drgreenevil on Jun 17, 2009 21:53:42 GMT -5
Another thing that bugged me...
For the final battle in Chosen, why did Buffy dress more like she was going to church or on a date than to a war ?
She wore heels to fight a legion of ubervamps!!
I look at Faith, she was dressed to fight, ready to go. But Buffy tried looking pretty for the big bad.
I understand this was supposed to be a thematic scene and all, centered on the scythe. That its just stupid tv and not real..
I guess it ties into my question of why the slayers didn't take more weapons that could pack a punch.
Because if this was a real battle to me it seemed it would have called for more pragmatism and practicality.
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