Paul
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Post by Paul on Aug 22, 2009 7:37:49 GMT -5
i really don't like how they dealt with the new slayers either why are they in Scotland anyway? surely the main crew should of headed for the hellmouth in Cleveland Why not Scotland? The writers are going for a global scale, why set it in America? There's also no reason to go to Cleveland. Giles calls that a "second-rate hellmouth", so it's probably not as active as the Sunnydale one. Also, if one Slayer could protect Sunnydale, I'm sure Wood's entire squad are enough to handle Cleveland.
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Beaumonde
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Post by Beaumonde on Aug 22, 2009 7:50:59 GMT -5
that's not what i mean, i like that it's global now it's just that we haven't been told why they went to Scotland what's the big threat there? is there a hellmouth beneath Scotland now? there must be more going on in Cleveland
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Lukee
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Post by Lukee on Aug 22, 2009 7:58:40 GMT -5
I have a feeling the slayer spell will be reversed after the "great battle that banishes all demons and magics from this world" has happened. Probably end of season nine. it should definitely be reversed if magic and demons do become banished, since magic is the only thing giving these girls their slayer powers Buffy can't really stop magic being banished, can she? she saw the future, so she can't change what she saw, because that is what's going to happen. because it's the future and what you see then, is what you're gonna get. but then i find that kind of sad that Willow turns to dark magic again. I think if anything we have learned in Buffy that the future is never set in stone. Buffy is trying to change what she saw in the future and theirs a good chance that she will after knowing what she knows she's going to try to stop it from happening.
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Paul
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Post by Paul on Aug 22, 2009 8:17:17 GMT -5
that's not what i mean, i like that it's global now it's just that we haven't been told why they went to Scotland what's the big threat there? is there a hellmouth beneath Scotland now? there must be more going on in Cleveland I'm guessing Joss just chose Scotland for the castles and the landscape; gives the series a large-scale feel. As for an in-story reason, I don't think we really need one. Why are any of the Slayer bases where they are? They're all over the world, this is just one. Maybe Buffy just liked Scotland, maybe some supernatural threat brought her there. Who knows, it's not that important.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Aug 22, 2009 9:51:15 GMT -5
Haven't we mentioned the Brigadoon/Hogwarts Effect yet?
If you want to hide a big-ass castle and a whole bunch of people from the rest of the world, the Scottish Highlands is the place to go.
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Post by AmericanAssassin on Sept 2, 2009 23:15:20 GMT -5
I'm only on issue 18, but I will say yes. Fray is the one and only in the future, right? Does that mean Faith won't be a slayer anymore? Or are there still two like before the spell?
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nickb123
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Post by nickb123 on Sept 3, 2009 7:04:21 GMT -5
I think the Scotland thing is because it's a castle in the middle of nowhere: perfect to base a Slayer HQ. It can be their UK base (which, let's face it, any global organisation needs especially when the Council is from there!) and it's out of the way to avoid unwanted attention (well, in theory). They couldn't find a remote place anywhere else really in the British Isles.
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Post by thevampirewithsoul on Sept 12, 2009 16:04:50 GMT -5
I think that the Slayer spell should be reversed. There's just too many Slayers now, to the point were it's a little over the top.
Remember how in season seven we were told that the Slayer line was almost at an end? Now there's hundreds of Slayers, I think that we now have more Slayers then the writers know what to do with.
So yes I do think that the Slayer spell should be undone.
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Post by wenxina on Sept 12, 2009 18:41:46 GMT -5
Remember how in season seven we were told that the Slayer line was almost at an end? Please find the quote(s) that say this.
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Post by diabeticdude202 on Sept 14, 2009 4:02:20 GMT -5
I very much loved how a small "finale" worthy storyline has turned into a full season of amazing issues, and drama! In the end, I would love to see the spell being reversed. I think I would be disappointed if Twilight went through all this stuff this season, only to get his ass kicked; and nothing changes. I know letting the bad guy win isn't the best thing, but he's such an amazing character that I'd love to see prevail in a way. But a quote from Buffy season 7, where Buffy and Faith are in the bedroom talking about why they never get along, because they were never supposed to exist together .... I have a feeling that when the spell REVERTS and everything is the way it should be, Faith may be rendered powerless. I know, she had powers before the spell, but its Buffy's power, as said in s7. The essense shared her power, the slayer essence. Reversing it may counteract with Faith & Buffy existing together. I for one would love to see a powerless Faith. She'd be so awesome. Her tough attitude getting her into trouble Or possibly Buffy losing her powers and Faith taking over the show! I can see it right now ... Faith: The Better Vampire Slayer
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Allowat Sakima
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Post by Allowat Sakima on Sept 15, 2009 21:33:57 GMT -5
I love it. Karma to you. If they did undo the spell it would be a crazy twist if undoing it also took Faith's slayability away. You could have some serious drama between her and Buffy over something like that. Then do an arc about Faith trying to get her powers back, similar to Spike going after his soul. But I do come down firmly on the side of reversing the spell at some point. It is getting harder and harder to feel sympathy for Buffy when the burden isn't all hers anymore.
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Post by Randi Giles on Sept 16, 2009 18:09:02 GMT -5
I've thought about it some more and I do think the spell should be reverse. I just don't think it should be reverse this season though. It seems kind of soon.
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Post by evilmaharaja on Sept 16, 2009 23:28:19 GMT -5
But a quote from Buffy season 7, where Buffy and Faith are in the bedroom talking about why they never get along, because they were never supposed to exist together .... I have a feeling that when the spell REVERTS and everything is the way it should be, Faith may be rendered powerless. LOVE that! But also Buffy may be rendered powerless, because the scythe sharing came from her power and not Faith's. Getting rid of that magic might take what she has as well. And technically speaking since Buffy died and Faith was called the old fashioned way she IS the Slayer.
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Post by misterkent on Sept 17, 2009 9:23:47 GMT -5
I had to choose the "I'm indifferent" option, but none of the above really suited my opinion. Frankly I agree with parts of the first two options.
Do I like the Slayer spell? Yes. I haven't been bored and am totally loving Season 8.
Do I want to see it reversed? At some point, Yes. Because it's not just about what I want, but what would make good stories. And I think a team of unpowered "Slayers" (or "pseudo-Slayers" if you will) could make good stories in Season 9. The Slayer Army stories were good IMO, but they shouldn't go on indefinitely.
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Post by sagewoman on Sept 17, 2009 15:38:23 GMT -5
Fabulous reading! Great thoughts and arguments around this issue. Reika - I particularly loved your post!
Can the future change? Yes! See what JJ Abrams did to Star Trek (very cool). Plus, from a scientific point of view - we may slip the dimensional stream or alter what hasn't yet occurred. But, will it change the 'look' of the Fray future - probably not, because Buffy isn't responsible for the global change - it is human-kind not respecting the environment (global warming, toxic oceans, depeleted rainforests, etc.).
As for reversing the power - nope, I'm not for it. Nor, should Buffy question herself about bringing the potentials into their power. The end of the world was at stake. She made a tough, but courageous decision - and did ask the potentials for input. I think it was right for so many reasons. The army does the same thing when at war - it drafts all the young men and women - and sends them into battle. With the exception of the few men on the team, this is a female army. Would it have been questioned if it was all male, I wonder?
I do not thing the power should be reversed. What I am wondering about is if this is a "one" generation issue. Every potential in the world at that moment, received her full power. So, I'm thinking that there have and will still be potential's born from that point forward. But, will not be called since Faith is still alive. Remember, that Buffy's death doesn't call a new Slayer, it would be Faith's death. That is, if there is still Slayer power to be had out there. So, by the time Fray shows up, there is likely one Slayer per generation who does not have a watcher, may not see many vamps/lurks and never really rises to the lack of challenge.
Until, Fray, who needs her Slayer powers. Plus, consider that she has the library and the Slayer chronicles, so someone over the years must have been looking after it.
I think we will see a disbanding of the teams of slayers after they have been trained and after Twilight and the government, and bad press have been dealt with. Perhaps as someone mentioned earlier, One or two slayers to a city/region. But a central operations centre makes sense too, as without watchers, or someone helping strategize, things may be too chaotic.
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evilmaharaja
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Post by evilmaharaja on Sept 17, 2009 22:31:47 GMT -5
I wonder if there was a little slayer fetus out there when Willow did her spell in S7. Some mother getting the crap kicked out of her from the inside seems pretty funny to me!
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Allowat Sakima
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Post by Allowat Sakima on Sept 18, 2009 1:10:39 GMT -5
I wonder if there was a little slayer fetus out there when Willow did her spell in S7. Some mother getting the crap kicked out of her from the inside seems pretty funny to me! Sounds a little too "Twilighty" for me...man those books were awful.
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evilmaharaja
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Post by evilmaharaja on Sept 18, 2009 2:03:51 GMT -5
Thankfully I have not read the books/watched the movie.
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Allowat Sakima
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Post by Allowat Sakima on Sept 18, 2009 2:09:25 GMT -5
I read them hoping to enjoy them. But now I just use the knowledge so I know what I am talking about when I bad mouth them and tell people not to bother.
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Post by pulse on Oct 16, 2009 20:00:16 GMT -5
No, I really like the storyline.
I didn't like the potentials in 7... i just thought they were horrid actors, but now that acting isn't an issue I am really feeling it.
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