D'Hoffryn
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Post by D'Hoffryn on Jan 31, 2008 8:29:56 GMT -5
i think it's going to be keneddy, with magic gone no more demons or slayers willow and her can be happy. Or Dawn I can't help but think what Joyce said in CWDP when it matters buffy wont choose you she'll be against you, I still believe this was not the first.
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Post by aluminumcandy on Jan 31, 2008 9:09:47 GMT -5
it's a tough call really. In my opinion, the closest person to Buffy is Giles. Since they also aren't on speaking terms as far as i can remember it would almost make sense. Though he has always done what he could to protect her so it's a tough call.
Angel is also close to her emotionally. i haven't watched much Angel to know how much he's changed, so maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't.
Willow does seem a likely candidate since she was there when the information was given and she had that whole "Not anymore then I already have" thing. Personally I know enough of about the Whedonverse to know nothing quite happens in the most obvious way.
I think Xander seems the most unlikely person, though he's always disregarded others feelings in order to see the big picture, so I can see that being a possibility.
Anyone else I dunno. I could continue, but I'll spare yall.
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Post by commandercool on Jan 31, 2008 11:03:19 GMT -5
It occurs to me that Riley got closer to Buffy than perhaps anyone else ever did. Maybe it's just that I really like the idea of Twilight being Riley, but it doesn't seem too far out to me.
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Post by aluminumcandy on Jan 31, 2008 11:16:57 GMT -5
i suppose that is true. Riley hit her on an emotional level that no one else did. Twilight being Riley? That's something that never crossed my mind (if it's a forum topic, I haven't gotten there yet) That would be an interesting plot twist. Not sure how it would work, but I can't count how many times I've said that about the Buffyverse, so who knows.
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Post by postitnote on Jan 31, 2008 12:16:19 GMT -5
maybe they'll be lovers, or buffy will say 'no, i don't wanna be your lover' even though Satsu's in love with her. Maybe Satsu is the inside man but she fell in love with Buffy so she decided not to betray her but when Buffy turns her down for some lesbian-lovin', she goes back to her original mission.
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Post by Joe on Feb 17, 2008 17:29:45 GMT -5
All I know is it better not be Xander, Willow, or Giles. I don't care if it's anyone else but it better not be them. I had a hard enough time with four episodes of Dark Willow. They are too important for the series and they should not be "the man on the inside" just to surprise people with a new twist.
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Post by Rachster on Feb 17, 2008 19:06:48 GMT -5
i think it will be giles he might betray her for faith... she might be his new fave i really hope not though i dont think it will be xander everyone seems to think it will be bacause he seems like the last person he would betray her so i think that makes him kind of obvious and joss never goes for that
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Post by Wyndam on Feb 17, 2008 19:58:33 GMT -5
This is a very difficult question, because I just have no idea and could not even begin to think of why any of those that are close to Buffy would betray her (will it be a flat out "I'm Evil Now BWAHAHAHA" betrayal? Or a betrayal more in line with Wesley's betrayal in Season 3 of Angel). Who knows.
Just based on gut reaction alone, I chose Dawn.
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Post by mpcuniverse on Feb 18, 2008 2:24:50 GMT -5
I've had a couple of theories as to who will betray buffy and about who twilight is. Some of them are the same, some are not.
For those of you that think that Xander is the moral compass for the scoobies, he has already betrayed buffy once. End of season 2. "Willow told me to tell you...to go get him." I don't really think that he will betray her though.
When buffy was lying down, crying, all scratched up. Look at the scratches in the comic page. Some of the scratches resemble letters of the alphabet. I've picked up on five letters actually in the three times I've read it. F A I T and H. I don't believe that it is faith that betrays her but maybe someone around faith or has been around faith.
Another idea that has popped into my head of who could betray her/is twilight. The Immortal...his life has always been about balance neither being good nor evil, has dated buffy, we never found out the full extent of his powers/why he is immortal. He would know that move because buffy had told him of her battles with the first/caleb. Seems likely because it's someone who has been placed in our minds but not mentioned at all yet. Maybe magic is why he is immortal and wants to finally rest for eternity.
I really don't want twilight/betrayal to be riley because he was supposed to have moved on and remarried.
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Post by Joe on Feb 18, 2008 9:12:06 GMT -5
When buffy was lying down, crying, all scratched up. Look at the scratches in the comic page. Some of the scratches resemble letters of the alphabet. I've picked up on five letters actually in the three times I've read it. F A I T and H. I don't believe that it is faith that betrays her but maybe someone around faith or has been around faith. Another idea that has popped into my head of who could betray her/is twilight. The Immortal...his life has always been about balance neither being good nor evil, has dated buffy, we never found out the full extent of his powers/why he is immortal. He would know that move because buffy had told him of her battles with the first/caleb. Seems likely because it's someone who has been placed in our minds but not mentioned at all yet. Maybe magic is why he is immortal and wants to finally rest for eternity. "Faith" being spelled on Buffy's cuts might be something, I"ll have to go check, but it might be coincidence. And for the other. Buffy never dated the immortal, she never even met him. That was one of her decoys, as stated in "The Long Way Home Part 1".
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kershmuckit
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Post by kershmuckit on Feb 18, 2008 13:01:34 GMT -5
I could see it being faith. It's kind of a recurring theme between her and buffy.
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Post by mpcuniverse on Feb 18, 2008 15:44:30 GMT -5
I could actually see it being faith on the right side of the moral compass this time, too. It would be something new if it was.
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Post by buffysmglover on Feb 18, 2008 17:49:00 GMT -5
I really don't want it to be. I'll check for the letters when I get home. Didn't geroges say we'd be looking back at issues 10 and 11 and see the clues to all the mysteries once they're solved?
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Post by Wyndam on Feb 18, 2008 18:47:47 GMT -5
I really don't want it to be. I'll check for the letters when I get home. Didn't geroges say we'd be looking back at issues 10 and 11 and see the clues to all the mysteries once they're solved? If that is the case then I think that certainly puts Faith ahead of anyone else. If it does indeed end up being Faith then it will be interesting to see just how far she goes, whether or not Giles will have any involvement, and if it will be a "relapse" of sorts to the Faith we saw running around confused and violent in Buffy Season 4/Angel Season 1 before her rehabilitation started.
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Post by postitnote on Feb 19, 2008 0:20:04 GMT -5
I agree. Faith is way too obvious. Part of me still wants to believe it's Buffy herself that does the betraying, part of me likes the Riley as Twilight theory, and part of me likes the Xander theory. I just can't decide!! Almost every theory has seemed plausible!
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Post by hitnrun017 on Feb 19, 2008 14:21:53 GMT -5
And whose more closer to her than herself?
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Post by hitnrun017 on Feb 19, 2008 14:44:22 GMT -5
Well we'll just have to wait and see. I think it's a good idea and would be something unexpected. It also works with where her character seems to be going at this point. All Robin says about it is "Betrayal. The closest, the most unexpected." I don't see how Buffy herself could be ruled out. There are all kinds of omnious things in Anywhere But Here, why can't that be one of them?
And If I'm wrong when we find who it is, I will personally hand you a bazooka.
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Enisy
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Post by Enisy on Feb 19, 2008 14:50:52 GMT -5
Joss must be really confident in the shock factor of this eventual betrayal, for him to inform us of it beforehand. I don't recall him ever doing that in the TV series, aside from some false claims the First made to the characters in Conversations with Dead People.
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Post by barryshaft on Feb 19, 2008 15:49:41 GMT -5
Yeah, at this point ruling Buffy herself out isn't really an option. She's close to absolutely no one at this point (her conversations with Xander are usually just about her being disconnected), if anything the only person she knows and trusts is herself.
Though, I really don't think she beat up herself or cut herself so I think whoever betrays her we'll be checkin' that panel out again and again... Right now I just don't think we have it yet.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Feb 19, 2008 18:05:12 GMT -5
But where does it say that it's someone in her family that betrays her? It doesn't....
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