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Post by rufio on Feb 3, 2009 22:51:59 GMT -5
I agree wenxina. That's why I dislike when people say they don't believe bisexuality exists. That if you admit to even the slightest homosexual attraction-you are 100% full-fledged gay. Of course, it's different for men and women. Women can go around making out w/their best girlfriends and get a crowd to watch whereas if two guys did the same, they'd probably get attacked by someone. But that's another discussion. I hate labels and believe everyone is deep down bisexual-we just express ourselves differently. Some people are exclusively hetero, some exclusively homo and some in between. Those that are in between could fall for a guy or girl the same-people are people-regardless of what's between their legs. Gender factors in of course, but it's more about a persons energy & heart. Once people in our society realize that,our rigid gender roles will hopefully relax.
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Post by rufio on Jan 31, 2009 19:11:35 GMT -5
I loove this cover. It isn't bright and exciting but it's dark and atmospheric-which is just as good, if not better. I'm excited about the purpose of this new character Dez.
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Post by rufio on Jan 30, 2009 0:16:48 GMT -5
I have been a little behind on Angel- I haven't really been reading it for the past few issues. I'm not really sure why-I think it has to do with the art or something because the story has been really awesome from what I've seen but the art was just so off-putting that it made me mad. But I read this whole issue today and was very impressed! The art was AMAZING and I love where they're taking the story with Angel becoming famous. And even though I thought putting everyone in hell was brilliant, it feels good to be done w/that scenario. I'm curious where the story will go next. Oh and I really have no idea what went down with gwen & connor-is gwen dead??
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Post by rufio on Jan 29, 2009 23:55:59 GMT -5
very interesting. I didn't ever really think of the whole doctor scenario having any bigger purpose, but I have talked about the importance of 'as you were' as an episode as it is the only time we see riley after he leaves Buffy. And since he's back in season 8-it would make sense for our writers to be connecting the story. I can't wait to see what is going on with Riley!! And where's Sam?!
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Post by rufio on Jan 26, 2009 13:16:38 GMT -5
"I Only Have Eyes For You" has gotta be one of my favorite episodes & I'd say it's rather underrated. I don't think it's thought of as a bad episode, but I also don't think it's remembered when listing the greatest episodes. It has a monster of the week plot- but that's part of what makes it so good- it's such a classic early buffy episode. The story of the ghosts from 1955 is done very well and is spooky and the way it parallels angel & buffy's story is masterful!
Are there any other episodes that are typically underrated??
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Post by rufio on Jan 25, 2009 19:26:04 GMT -5
And it's only worse with the men in America!
I just have to say-I was in the theater and in one of the previews-two women were seen kissing and noone reacted. In the next preview-two men kissed and it was a funny movie-and people reacted like middle schoolers with ewww's and moans of disgust. It really made me mad and goes to prove my point. true story.
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Post by rufio on Jan 25, 2009 8:51:26 GMT -5
I think that's a question of the nature of homophobia. A lot of straight guys dislike homosexuality because they consider it un-masculine (personally I always thought they should be happy, it leaves more girls for them?). By contrast by being a lesbian it doesn't make you less feminine. No one ever goes lesbian-bashing? Besides society is more accepting of women sharing physical affection with each other, literally from the moment girls are born they're taught that it's ok to be physically intimate with another woman, starting with their mother. If you think of Xena, she and Gabby hold hands, kiss, sleep in each other's arms, stroke each other's hair, tell one another they love them and jump into the hot tub together. But if you wanted to you could just believe they're still just very close female friends. If you saw 2 girls holding hands you wouldn't necessarily think they were gay, they could be sisters or mother and daughter or just very close female friends. Now imagine if Hercules and Iolaus did all that? I remember a discussion at university where 2 girls and 2 guys had to share 2 single rooms for the night. The girls just jumped into the single bed together whilst the guys flipped a coin and one of them slept on the floor. Which all the girls took as further evidence of women's innate superiority to men. And to break it down further, every straight guy I know, no matter how homphobic, loves the idea of girl/girl action, even if they're not involved. :-*I must say I've never found any girl who finds man-on-man the least appealing although I do know a few who'd like to be in the centre of some actually people do go lesbian-bashing. www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/534469but you're totally right about the difference between men & women. And it totally doesn't make sense how most men are more homophobic-but only when it comes to men. They don't have any problems with girl on girl b/c it turns them on! Disgusting if you ask me. Girl on girl is just as gay as guy on guy!
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Post by rufio on Jan 24, 2009 19:49:53 GMT -5
You've already made that point very clear nicholas. But a male- male relationship can explore many themes besides 'the gay theme'-whatever that means. Look at all the different themes/issues explored with willow + tara + kennedy-and even buffy + satsu. It's not just about being gay, it's about people-their emotions and relationships.
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Post by rufio on Jan 24, 2009 19:39:02 GMT -5
I love some of these everyones already posted! Spikes quote 'out for a walk...bitch' is a classic.
i'll try to pick my top 10 (in no real order)
1. Giles: Only a creature of pure evil can stand against the judge and survive. Xander: So what's the problem? We send Cordelia to face this guy and go for pizza. - "Surprise"- gotta love xanders sense of humor in scary situations
2. BUFFY: Wherever I ... was ... I was happy. At peace.I knew that everyone I cared about was all right. I knew it. Time ... didn't mean anything ... nothing had form ... but I was still me, you know? And I was warm ... and I was loved ... and I was finished. Complete. I don't understand about theology or dimensions, or ... any of it, really ... but I think I was in heaven. And now I'm not. I was torn out of there. Pulled out ... by my friends. Everything here is ... hard, and bright, and violent. Everything I feel, everything I touch ... this is Hell. Just getting through the next moment, and the one after that ... knowing what I've lost... -"Afterlife"- depressing, but beautifully written
3. Vamp Willow: This worlds no fun. Willow: You notice that too? -"Doppelgangland"- just one of those poignant lines I like
4. Dawn: Oh my god! You will never believe what happened in school today! Buffy: Everybody started singing and dancing? Dawn: I gave birth to a pterodactyl Anya: Oh my god! Did it sing? -"Once more, with feeling"- probably my favorite comedic line-anya's seriousness makes it that much funnier
5. SPIKE: Taking up smoking, are you? HARMONY: I *am* a villain, Spike, hellooooo. (Takes a drag and starts to cough) -"Out of my mind"- harmony is just hilarious in general but I f*cking love this line.
6. TARA: I was just afraid if you saw the kind of people I came from, you wouldn't wanna be anywhere near me. WILLOW: See ... that's where you're a dummy. I think about ... what you grew up with, and ... then I look at what you are ... it makes me proud. It makes me love you more. TARA: Every time I- even when I'm at my worst ... you always make me feel special. How do you do that? WILLOW: Magic. -"Family"- aw so sweet!
7. XANDER: Hey, I know this! They're both Buffy! BUFFY: No, *she*'s a robot. She acts just like that girlfriend-bot that Warren guy made. You guys couldn't tell me apart from a robot?! -"Intervention"- love SMG's tone here.
8. Buffy: Honey, we need to talk about the invitations. Now, do you wanna be William the Bloody, or just Spike? ‘Cause, either way, it's gonna look majorly weird. Spike: Where as the name Buffy gives it that touch of classic elegance. Buffy: What's wrong with Buffy? Giles: Huh.. such a good question. Spike: Well, it's a terrible name. Buffy: My mother gave me that name. Spike: Your mother, yeah, she's a genius. Buffy: Don't you start in on my mother. -"Something Blue"- It's so funny how they sound like a serious married couple here
9. BUFFY: Are you alright? FAITH: Five by five. That's the thing about a coma, you come out all rested and rejuvenated…And ready for pay back. BUFFY: So much for the pleasantries, huh? FAITH: What'd you think? I'd wake up and we'd go for tea? You tried to gut me, blondie. BUFFY: You would have done the same to me if you'd had the chance. FAITH: So let's give it another go. See who lands on top. BUFFY: It doesn't have to be like this you know. FAITH: Actually - I think it has to be exactly like this. BUFFY: Not here. Not now. These are innocent people. FAITH: No such animal. BUFFY: I guess it was too much to hope you'd used your down time to reflect and grow. FAITH: Could say the same about you. You're still the same old better- than-thou Buffy. I knew it somehow. I kept having this dream -- not sure what it means, but…in the dream this self-righteous blond chick stabs me. And you know why? BUFFY: You had it coming? FAITH: That's one interpretation. But in my dream, she does it for a guy! If it weren't so corny, it'd be beautiful. True love conquers all, and that. But then I wake up to find out this blonde chick isn't even dating the guy she was so nuts about before. She's moved on - to the first college beefstick she meets. Not only has she forgotten the "love of her life," she's forgotten all about the chick she nearly killed for him… So, that's my dream. Well, that and some stuff about cigars and a tunnel. Tell me, College girl...What does it mean? BUFFY: To me? Mostly that you still mouth off about things you don't understand. -"This Years Girl"- Faith is badass 24/7 but this confrontation was so awesome.
10. CORDELIA: Hey, I'm under a lot of pressure here. BUFFY: Oh, yeah, Homecoming campaign. Rough gig. CORDELIA: What would you know about it? Just because you were Guacamole Queen when you were three doesn't mean you understand how this works. BUFFY: Apparently it involves handing out these entirely lame flyers. CORDELIA: No, it involves being a part of the school and having actual friends. Now if it was about monsters and blood and innards, you'd be a shoo in. Like to see you try to win the crown. BUFFY: You Would? Then you will. CORDELIA: What do you mean? BUFFY: I'll show you how it's done. I'll run for Homecoming Queen and I'll win. CORDELIA: This is starting to be sad. BUFFY: Sorry, Cordy, but you have no idea who you're messing with. CORDELIA: What, the Slayer? BUFFY: I'm not talking about the Slayer. I'm talking about Buffy. You've awakened the Prom Queen within- And that crown is going to be mine. -"Homecoming"-I just find this funny
I could list sooo many other quotes!
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Post by rufio on Jan 22, 2009 19:06:36 GMT -5
no no no. if xander gets with dawn, that's totally fair IMO. Buffy's had Xander at her door for the past 8 years & she never really gave him the time of day.
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Post by rufio on Jan 22, 2009 15:23:07 GMT -5
Angel and Spike together is a little too weird. They both seem to be dominant. Who would bend over and take it? Unless Angelus raped Spike. So what if they're both dominant-remember SPUFFY?! I'd say buffy & spike were both on the same level as far as sexual dominance goes. Angel & Spike would probably be the same- but I doubt they actually had full blown sex.
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Post by rufio on Jan 22, 2009 11:19:46 GMT -5
Um, Angel is not the type? Who are you to say? It's Joss's character.
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Post by rufio on Jan 21, 2009 17:01:45 GMT -5
how about a mexican boyfriend for andrew then? we'll kill two birds with one stone.
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Post by rufio on Jan 21, 2009 0:53:38 GMT -5
They arent going to cater to every single fan. If they did that, then we wouldnt be where we are now. People may not like the fact that Andrews sexuality is not up for an actual plot point, but thats something that people are just going to have to get over and deal with. One of the major things about Buffy the Vampire Slayer is not only the fact that its a kick ass show/comic but the fact that it has been able to connect to people and change lives. To say that someone is homophobic when you dont even know them is ridiculous. It was because of this show and the themes such as sexual orientation and experimentation that I was able to admit to myself that I was bisexual. So believe me when I say that I have no problem with the fact that there is gay or bisexual characters in this universe. But I myself believe that while sexual orientation is an aspect of a person, they dont really need to center a story around it anymore because thats already been told. What are you referring to where this story has been told?
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Post by rufio on Jan 20, 2009 20:33:34 GMT -5
a glaring omission that the series needs to address?-no a small thing some people might enjoy and/or appreciate?-yes.
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Post by rufio on Jan 20, 2009 16:09:40 GMT -5
Who ever said they want every character to be gay or have a gay relationship?? I certainly didn't! I'm not an idiot-i know not everyone is gay and it would make absolutely no sense for every character to be basically bisexual. But newsflash, there are a percentage of people that identify as gay or bisexual, and even those who don't identify but still experiment (buffy!) So question- why do people have such a problem with sexual relationships such as these being told in a story? You can say you're not homophobic, but you sure sound it. I never said I wanted more of the main characters to suddenly become gay or start experimenting- I DID say it'd be nice to see a gay male character come into the story. What is so wrong about that? All we have is Andrew, and he's still left ambiguous-even though it's pretty obvious. Yeah there's only a small percentage of people that are gay in real life, but there ARE gay people so just b/c they're a minority means they shouldn't be shown? If anything, that's MORE of a reason. Sorry, but I'd like more representation of homosexuality in today's media b/c it's needed to open peoples minds. I've watched Queer as Folk and I think the writers of Buffy are smart and do something totally different and wonderful with gay characters. I've seen the way they've handled Willow & Tara & Kennedy for the past 10 years and that's why I'm on this board! The series has shown very positive representations of homosexuality as well as accurate representations of sexuality in general & I think they can do better than Andrew.
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Post by rufio on Jan 18, 2009 12:02:11 GMT -5
See, I dont really think I would mind, but the entire time watching Season 7, I really felt that Andrew and xander were going to hook up much like the way Buffy and Satsu did. lol I didn't see this at all! If Andrew wanted to jump anyones bones it was definitely Spike! And I think Spike would sooner snap andrews neck than kiss him.
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Post by rufio on Jan 18, 2009 1:45:45 GMT -5
really?
weigh the scales.
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Post by rufio on Jan 17, 2009 23:24:22 GMT -5
The conclusion of wolves at the gate was really good-it was thrilling-which I never thought I'd say about a comic. Maybe it's because I know the characters and I could imagine it all perfectly, but the action in issue 4 started right from the first page, didn't let up, and was very satisfying in the end. OK, mecha dawn was a misstep in my opinion but other than that, I thought it was perfection.
As a whole arc though, I'm still on board for No Future For You. I think each individual issue of that arc was so good-from the story right down to the art-which was just beautiful in a lot of places. Plus, I dig the whole royalty theme with Gigi and Buffy- and seeing Faith in a ballgown!? Never even thought of the possibility-and that's what made it so good. Yeah, I have yet to tire of the buffy/faith dynamic. Plus, I like faith & giles together.
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Post by rufio on Jan 17, 2009 23:16:11 GMT -5
You seem to be missing my point totally. You're saying that introducing another gay character would be unnecessary? - Why?? A gay character could come into the picture in a totally non-sex-related capactity. It's like saying a bird can come into the story-only if it flies- a bird can do other things besides fly. Don't ask why I'm using a bird analogy but i'm just trying to make my point.
NOT adding another gay character just because he's gay is just as stupid as ADDING a gay character just because he's gay...lol, read that a couple times-it actually does make sense. i think.
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