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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 26, 2009 11:41:09 GMT -5
I think Giles is a perfect candidate for Twilight, it wouldn't make me angry at all. Unless he killed some of our characters. It seems to me Twilight is likely to be fighting for 'good'. The way i saw The First storyline: Buffy is brought back from the dead in season 6, which wasnt meant to happen, suddenly the power of good is outbalancing evil, which gives The First the opportunity to fight back and make the scales 'equal'. Buffy fights back and makes hundreds of slayers, tipping the 'good' scale even more. Twilight in my eyes is trying to even the scales again, or getting rid of the scales altogether, I wouldn't be surprised if its Giles, he seems like the sort of person that understands that the scales should be equal.
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 25, 2009 18:50:54 GMT -5
I had to do this! HA! lmao! Karma!
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 25, 2009 18:38:44 GMT -5
I have no knowledge on comics either, I only got into comics after Buffy. I blame Joss. On that note, what does comic con cover? Comics and TV? or only TV, but were lucky coz we have Joss so he makes comic announcments too?
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 25, 2009 18:33:03 GMT -5
Very valid points for Oz theory, however, wasn't Oz like the tiny one of the group? Same goes for the Jonathan theory really. Imagining the size of these two actors doesnt fit with twilight, or plausability that they could beat Buffy down as hard as they did, or that if they are indeed smaller, Buffy didnt quip about it while fighting him,
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 25, 2009 9:13:05 GMT -5
Is there going to be Buffy news also? Coz i've noticed there isnt a Buffy comic con thread?
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 22, 2009 20:37:39 GMT -5
If i had to try, I'd go for a beheading.
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 22, 2009 20:01:09 GMT -5
I cannot believe i could not see Penny's death coming, I was truly shocked. Renee's death in the Buffy comics is I hope the last time he pulls the "true love is doomed", I saw the Renee death coming, but I think it was mainly to show us, his fans that the comics can be just as hard hitting as his real actor shows. And thats it, I hope Renee was the last one.... However, I wouldn't mind seeing Ballard die. (I know i didnt mention firefly, but i want to share my thoughts on the topic)
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 22, 2009 19:44:29 GMT -5
I get jumbled up when im trying to express myself in long posts too haha. I think Dollhouse is completely centered around the science. Its almost as if the science of the dollhouse is the main character. The 'standalone' episodes revolve around Echo (usually) playing a person for whatever reason. The big mythology episodes are centered around the science, such as Omega, he gives Echo a personality, they use the science to bring back Caroline etc. Epitaph one, the chaos has ensued due to the science that has been created. JJ Abrahms, although I LOVE lost, and LOVE alias. They both center around a 'gimmick' lets call it. Lost = flashing/past/future. Alias = double agents/double crossing And now Fringe [spoilers] is going with alternate timelines etc.[/spoilers] Lost in particular, I wonder if the episodes will be rewatchable once its finished as the first viewing of the episodes are often "wait for the twist in the final act". But anyway thats discussion for another time. I like the freedom of Buffy and Angel and even Firefly i guess, but i find these newer programmes almost use the premise as the series as another character. And I feel thats what Joss has done with Dollhouse, he has centered it too much around the science, and i hope in the next season it becomes more character driven, character interaction and more Joss. I don't think i can explain it any better I just feel like dollhouse, if not controlled properly will feel like an Abrahms clone and less of a Joss original creation. In case you dont get it, love lost, love alias, hate JJ.
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 22, 2009 18:59:25 GMT -5
Mole - Although i think its Riley. I always thought it was Satsu. I'm still not over Amy's love spell in TLWH, it made no sense? Why choose a love spell? I always thought this was because it was not a love spell, it was a way of convincing Buffy that Satsu was in love with her, to get close to her. However, now Riley seems like the mole, I think the love spell was possibly a way of Twilight finding out who was in love with Buffy, maybe to kill them and hurt Buffy, or convince Satsu privately to do something with the threat of Twilight killing Buffy, using her own love for Buffy against her.
The betrayer - Humanity, I think the 'darkness' she cant kill isnt her slayer power, but her humanity. Perhaps Buffy's humanity will betray her role as slayer. Such as the slayer role needs her to kill Twilight, but her humanity will stop her from doing the 'right' thing. Like killing Dawn to save the world.
The prince - Twilight. If Buffy is the Queen (dream in TLWH, and Gigi refers to her as queen) Dawn has been referred to as a/the princess, don't remember when, think it was when she was a horse thing. Dawn/Twilight connection. Dawn the princess, Twilight the prince.
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 22, 2009 17:48:21 GMT -5
By the way, I've been thinking of betrayal theory in general, and that if it is a character, then its likely to have been discussed here at some point making the "the most unexpected" one of the expected.
By mentioned "the closest, the most unexpected" Everyone unexpected has now been discussed, making them expected (to us) which pretty much means that the "most unexpected" has now become the most expected, probably being Willow.
Do i make sense?
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 22, 2009 17:38:08 GMT -5
I love the irony that Joss kills all fan loved relationships one way or another. But keeps Willow and Kennedy together even though their relationship is the most hated.
I've thought for a while that Giles has outstayed his part, he is the father figure, for the kids to fully mature and become the role models for the next generation the older generation has to die. Its the way of the world. I think Giles' number is up.
I hope against hope that Faith does not die, while she is still alive there is possibility of a spin off.
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 22, 2009 17:31:29 GMT -5
Restless wasnt a flashforward. It was forshadowing, which Joss does excellently. The flashforward, of actually showing us whats going to happen he's never done. I never actually loved firefly, so I dont overly remember the full story arc. I get that Joss has used science way before, its hard to describe. Its never been explictly 'deep'. Adam was just a frankenstein monster, the nerds playing with technology. Ok maybe this may explain it better, Dollhouse is centered AROUND the technology, previous series of his is character driven. Dollhouse is less about the characters (so far) but by the looks of Dollhouse, Caroline is going to get a bit cooler And by the way, did Joss really make it with the intention of straight to DVD? I thought it was meant to air.
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 22, 2009 6:59:12 GMT -5
Yeah I get he has done flashbacks before, but flashforward, thats new to Joss ('cept Time of your Life). And it isn't a one episode flashforward that follows one linear story like the usual flashback episodes, its a full on fractured part of the future being fed to us in 3 minute sections. If im honest, it actually kind of reminded me of Damages, as you get tiny clippets that seem to be linear but as the season goes along, you realise a really important 10 second clip is missing, or the events were not in the order you first believed. What im trying to say is that in the past flashbacks have been a part of furthering the story, Epitaph one on a basic level was part mystery/make you more interested in watching season 2 which I see as keeping with new TV trends.
Perhaps it was just because they started at the same time, but I clearly connected Fringe and Dollhouse, but I think the reason Fringe was more successful was because it followed the CSI/Xfiles routine of death/supernatural then the episode they solve it (yaaaaay!). The reason I prefer Dollhouse is because it is more character driven, but I still feel Dollhouse is a victim of trying to keep with 'new' trends such as Flashforwards, weird science and even big corporation = big bad conspiracy.
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 21, 2009 16:51:29 GMT -5
Just what I thought of it...I want to get in on some discussion I understand completely why Fox didn't show it, although the ending kind of came together (a bit, theres still loads of questions!!) I feel like it was an extended trailer for whats to come. Not until the end of the episode did i reconnect with the characters, it was jumping back and forth and I felt it more like a puzzle than an 'episode'. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed and I am incredibly looking forward to whats to come, but I can't help but feel like Joss has sold out a bit with Dollhouse. What do i mean? The fractured story telling of the popular 'Lost' or the showing the audience of whats to come 'Heroes' or the freaky science of 'Fringe'. Its just not like the classic Joss stuff I love. It feels like a stuck on episode to show Fox and the non Joss fans that he can be cool and hip like JJ Abrahms too.
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 21, 2009 16:31:45 GMT -5
Yeh but what better way to destroy the things you want gone by turning them against each other and finishing off the last man standing. If he wants to end magic, then theres going to be whole lot of demons/vampires/slayers working TOGETHER to stop twilight. I think its wise to use them to kill each other.
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 21, 2009 7:54:56 GMT -5
Just thought of something, just because its Buffy on the floor crying (in the vision) doesn't mean its Buffy who gets the closest betrayal. The betrayal could be Kennedy betraying Willow, and Buffy gets hurt in the process. The betrayal could be anyone onto anyone, Buffy doesn't necessarily have to be apart of it.
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Post by faithswatcher on Jul 17, 2009 5:53:30 GMT -5
Great post, nice collection of evidence. But reading it all, I've thought of another betrayal. General ( ) "you are at war with the human race" Buffy "K" Buffy and Willow have been discussion throughout what happens when they fight humans and the general conclusion is "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it" "you cant kill the darkness inside you" Twilight "strip her of her moral certainity" What if the darkness inside is her humanity not her demonic slayer side, the biggest betrayal of all is people/humankind, we have already seen that the public are turning against slayers. What if the big bad is humankind, humanity, and ultimately the darkness a simple human can possess.
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Post by faithswatcher on Jun 22, 2009 20:47:15 GMT -5
Am i the only one excited at the return of the scourge?? I always thought they deserved more than a one off episode, can't wait to see Illyria kick their nazi-like asses!
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Post by faithswatcher on Jun 17, 2009 15:20:19 GMT -5
lol. It would be true, if Hospital-Buffy hadn't died in Normal Again. I didnt see it as a death at all, it was crazy Buffy accepting the alternate world and cutting herself from the world she was in to permanently live in 'our' Buffy world. E.g. Crazy Buffy is in some hospital, in a coma, still dreaming about her alternate world, such as S8.
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Post by faithswatcher on May 11, 2009 20:24:58 GMT -5
I'm seeing some hate on the IMDB boards for Eliza not playing a multi personality character very well. However, i felt she did perfectly, there was enough difference in mannerisms etc to show the change in character, but not too much that it seemed over acted and forced. Just curious to see the general consensus.
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