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Post by wenxina on Sept 8, 2010 19:19:57 GMT -5
Hey, SlayAlive may have gotten a shout-out, but you were referred to specifically.
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Post by sire on Sept 8, 2010 19:36:54 GMT -5
I really really hope Jeanty is back on season 9. I think he's done a fantastic job.
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Post by Emmie on Sept 8, 2010 19:45:56 GMT -5
Hey, SlayAlive may have gotten a shout-out, but you were referred to specifically. I actually still have no idea in which video the shout-out is. I watched the whole thing and I guess I missed it somehow. Help!Nevermind! I see it now.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Sept 8, 2010 20:28:11 GMT -5
I remember Scott saying that, but I don't remember the tone in which he said it. At the time of viewing, I thought he was just kidding. Do you remember which clip it was? It was in one of the last three vids... maybe the third-from-last? It didn't seem like he was kidding.
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Post by wenxina on Sept 8, 2010 21:00:29 GMT -5
Hey, SlayAlive may have gotten a shout-out, but you were referred to specifically. I actually still have no idea in which video the shout-out is. I watched the whole thing and I guess I missed it somehow. Help! 4th video, about 7:40 in. Around there. I remember Scott saying that, but I don't remember the tone in which he said it. At the time of viewing, I thought he was just kidding. Do you remember which clip it was? It was in one of the last three vids... maybe the third-from-last? It didn't seem like he was kidding. Thanks. Found it... still can't really tell if he's kidding.
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Post by Mr. Savath Bunny on Sept 8, 2010 22:21:38 GMT -5
I'm still weary of spoilering stuff, just in case... but what is that seed thingy will reverse and/or take away the magic’s that have hurt the world or something along those lines. Like in S7 Buffy said that she WOULD kill Dawn if it meant saving the world... so if seed thingy is all powerful magic-kabob and it removes spells and stuff and Buffy "attempts" to use it - possibly making it so her sis dies because no more monk spell - Xander does the mega betrayal to Buffy because he couldn't see Dawn die. It would totally be in character for Buffy to pull the guns and the whole "slayer works and plays alone" like in Selfless and Xander doesn't agree with that... but on the flip side, I'd want to see Willow get involved and maybe lose it and go all dark. It would throw the Buffyverse into madness. Giles and Faith leave because Buffy's gone off the deep end. Xander hopefully has Dawn being that he stopped Buffy from reversing magic. And Kennedy is all butt hurt because Willow is dark and gone to do... dark stuff. Satsu takes over being chief with Kennedy and Buffy goes into retreat mode being alone again. That theory just kinda created a short novel but yeah, brains thinkin overtime.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Sept 8, 2010 22:27:53 GMT -5
Thanks. Found it... still can't really tell if he's kidding. It would be kind of a strange non-sequitur if he was.
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Post by wenxina on Sept 8, 2010 22:29:43 GMT -5
At this point, I don't think anyone who's reading these threads can really blame anyone but themselves if they get spoiled. 'Phobes should know better.
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Post by Mr. Savath Bunny on Sept 8, 2010 22:37:40 GMT -5
Like I've stated in other areas on the internets, if season 8 is going to be epic - then someone special needs to die. I'm not trying to be cruel but it’s been four long years and the journey has been long and hard and a little confusing with month long commercial breaks (which will make me COMPLETELY appreciate normal 2 minutes commercial breaks now), but anyways, back to the point! I think someone needs to bite the dust to make season 8 important and have uber significance. My money was on Giles, he's older, character (who I enjoy and like seeing) has room to offer new stories (especially with Faith as a sidekick) BUT out of the main BFF's in the gang, he has them most room to get let go... but if Joss wants to be cruel he'll make it someone who has a lot more to offer and rob them of their fun future in the Buffyverse. And unlike Jean Gray, they won't be coming back again... and again... and again.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Sept 9, 2010 7:35:44 GMT -5
Like I've stated in other areas on the internets, if season 8 is going to be epic - then someone special needs to die. I think that reduces drama to formula, and isn't really a very good way to construct a story. It's the equivalent of peeling an onion under someone's nose to get them to cry. There are other ways of creating dramatic effect than just killing characters. But it seems Joss is determined to do so this season. It seems to me that Xander and Spike are the only major characters that a) aren't already accounted for in the future (i.e., Willow) or b) haven't been mentioned by Scott in the context of season 9. Nor has Dawn, but I really don't think they'd give her death away on a cover solicitation months in advance, and it would be approaching silliness to kill off another Xander girlfriend, and, sadly, I doubt her death would provoke the kind of "Internet rage" that Scott was mentioning.
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Post by patxshand on Sept 9, 2010 7:50:11 GMT -5
Spike *has* been mentioned in relation to Season Nine, in that he's gonna be around a lot more.
Also, the quote that struck me: "Why would you ask that question!?!"
Oh, Scott Allie. -_-
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Post by wenxina on Sept 9, 2010 8:39:34 GMT -5
Erm... because it was kind of an extremely stupid question? For all the reasons he stated. But also, it came across as mock incredulousness. And the person got their answer, and a spoiler to boot. Doubt they minded.
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Post by Maggie on Sept 9, 2010 9:47:08 GMT -5
Erm... because it was kind of an extremely stupid question? For all the reasons he stated. But also, it came across as mock incredulousness. And the person got their answer, and a spoiler to boot. Doubt they minded. I liked the whole Q&A session, and like the way Allie handles himself in general. To be fair to the person asking the question -- it's not 'extremely stupid'. I mean, you and Allie are right that it's obvious that there will be more interaction between Spike and Buffy. But see it from a different perspective --- there's been near dead silence in the comics about Spike for three and a half years. We've spent several issues now on Buffy and Angel and their epic true love, which Jeanty and Meltzer repeatedly tell us is exactly what the Bangels have always said. And what the Bangels have also always said was that Spike didn't much matter to Buffy. So in this episode after three and a half years of waiting, Spike and Buffy are on the same page and she couldn't care less about his sacrifice or that he's back. At least that's one way of reading what she says. It was enough to get folks saying that Joss was killing Spuffy with a sack of hammers. I personally doubt that's what's going on. And obviously there will be some more conversation. But I think the question really was "is it right that Spuffy has just been completely demolished?" And that's not a stupid question. Cause on the surface? Reading the text just plain straight up? Buffy belongs to Angel, and she didn't bother to look Spike up knowing he was back, and throws in her 'appreciation' for his sacrifice in a way that is designed to get it off the table as quickly as possible. (If it's just to get to business and she has more appreciation to offer later on she could say 'we have other things to talk about but right now just tell me what's going on). I don't think it goes that simply. But that is the straight read for now. And on that read, Spuffy just got killed, and it's reasonable to imagine that it's possible that Buffy would just avoid Spike from here on out, using him as 'exposition' man and nothing more. Like I said, I don't think it goes that way. But that's why someone would think that was a question worth asking.
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Post by Mr. Savath Bunny on Sept 9, 2010 11:48:43 GMT -5
Does anybody remember Ethan Rayne being dead... ? I re-read TLWH last night for fun and I was like "oh... he did die." I wonder if that'll ever be looked at or spoken of again, I mean, I know its only Ethan Rayne but STILL. You can't just kill someone and have it be just for shock value and have NO reason behind it?
Did Angel/Twilight order his death or was it all in the hands of the general to off him because Ethan was Team Buffy (sort of)? Was it that Ethan knew about the same Watchers myth Giles remembers about the one slayer who would change the world... for the worst? I know he was slimy but I can't imagine he was killed because he was just being annoying.
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Post by Hellbound Hyperion on Sept 9, 2010 18:08:00 GMT -5
Does anybody remember Ethan Rayne being dead... ? I re-read TLWH last night for fun and I was like "oh... he did die." I wonder if that'll ever be looked at or spoken of again, I mean, I know its only Ethan Rayne but STILL. You can't just kill someone and have it be just for shock value and have NO reason behind it? Did Angel/Twilight order his death or was it all in the hands of the general to off him because Ethan was Team Buffy (sort of)? Was it that Ethan knew about the same Watchers myth Giles remembers about the one slayer who would change the world... for the worst? I know he was slimy but I can't imagine he was killed because he was just being annoying. I don't necessarily think Ethan Rayne's death was for shock value. Remember, the General was in the room when Buffy et al find Ethan dead. I think the message in killing him was pretty clear: helping Buffy is treason, punishable by death, at least to Voll's eyes.
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Post by wenxina on Sept 9, 2010 18:23:37 GMT -5
Maggie: Buffy called Spike "studly". And also, heat of battle... she needs the information that he has, not a banter fest. While I like my Buffy/Spike banter as much as any Buffy, Spike, or Spuffy fan does, I think having them wax poetical about his sacrifice and then subsequent reappearance would seem out of place. And hey, Buffy didn't seek Angel out either, so it's not like Spike was getting the exclusive brush off. As for Spuffy being killed by a sack of hammers, I think that was bitsy's terminology. I'd remind people that Buffy did juggle both Angel AND Spike in "Chosen".
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Post by Maggie on Sept 10, 2010 1:37:48 GMT -5
As I said, a better way to hande the in the heat of the battle thing would have been to say "we've got a ton to talk about, but right now there's an apocalypse, so let's get to business, we'll do the other stuff later."
My point in any case isn't that Spuffy is dead, or that Buffy couldn't care less about Spike and his sacrifice. My point is that it's not an unreasonable reading. Buffy sees him back for the first time since Chosen, and flies off to tell Angel he has her heart and gave her the bestest day ever. Then comes back and raises the sacrifice only to squash it flat. It's not stupid given all of that to think that the intention might well be for Buffy to ignore Spike as much as possible. Bitsy might be wrong about the uber-deadness of Spuffy -- but he (she?)'s not wrong about it being the plain meaning of the text we have so far.
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Post by 47kwest on Sept 10, 2010 2:27:10 GMT -5
How awesome! How great that they would take their time to speak to fans. I have to go with what Georges has said to me and now confirmed, bad and unhappy things are going to happen. What they are? Who knows? That's the fun and exhilaration of something like this. Good. Bad. We're gonna get it all. Personally I can't wait. Can you?
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Post by wenxina on Sept 10, 2010 6:45:50 GMT -5
New interview with Scott Allie HERE.
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Post by wenxina on Oct 10, 2010 10:30:00 GMT -5
New BuffyFest interview with Scott Allie at NYCC 2010 HERE. Includes a new one word description of the now notorious #39. Word in spoiler tags. Devastation Also includes a bunch of stuff on various Whedonverse projects, like Dollhouse, and the current status of Serenity books. Also, a brief report with some mild spoilers about what the next few Guild books by Felicia Day will hold. Good stuff all around from our ever amazing friends at BuffyFest.
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