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Post by wenxina on May 16, 2009 9:25:28 GMT -5
Dawn's jealous, yes, and yes that's been covered in S7. But the resolution of that was never covered. The point at the end of this issue is that Dawn's grown up some since then.
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Post by vinccolby on May 16, 2009 19:32:01 GMT -5
Hey everyone! I'm new here but have been reading the forum for a while and finally decided to register, so this is my first post. I'm not the brightest apple in the basket so this question might sound stupid to some of you but here goes : Why does Gepetto hurt dawn at the begining when he says later on in the comic that cracking her skull could release her soul? Or was his intentions to release her soul? I really didn't understand that page (15). I really hope someone answers because it's been driving me crazy.
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Post by Rebecca on May 16, 2009 19:58:13 GMT -5
Welcome vinccolby!! You should check out our "Introduce Yourself" board here. To answer your question, I believe Geppetto was protecting Dawn the entire time. That opening scene was a mislead, though he was keeping her there against her will. He scooped her up from the woods where she transformed, brought her home, mended her (what appears to be multiple times), and as he explains later, he was mending her to protect her soul. Interesting something I just thought of. It probably hasn't had enough time to completely formulize, but whatever. Xander says something to Buffy like "That whole thing where she doesn't want you to worry? Worry." Buffy hadn't been worrying about her, and Dawn was okay with that. Geppetto served as the opposite of Buffy in this issue, so perhaps I forgive his seemingly "out of nowhere" appearance. He was protecting Dawn, much to her disapproval, something Buffy hasn't done all season. Then with this issue, Buffy "out of nowhere" begins to worry about Dawn. Perhaps she will begin to protect her as well.
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Post by vinccolby on May 16, 2009 21:42:05 GMT -5
Wow! Thanks a lot! And great observation! Your really smart:P Any theories on who twilight is?
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Post by Rebecca on May 16, 2009 21:43:55 GMT -5
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Post by vinccolby on May 16, 2009 21:47:30 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by sire on May 17, 2009 7:07:52 GMT -5
Dawn's jealous, yes, and yes that's been covered in S7. But the resolution of that was never covered. The point at the end of this issue is that Dawn's grown up some since then. I would disagree... I thought the end of 'Potential' covered that beautifully. Dawn accepted her place. I dunno I thought this was a pretty lame conclusion to the whole Dawn thing. I was hoping this 'dawn transformation arc' would lead to some new exciting development for the Dawn Buffy relationship. I guess im just concerned Dawn is going to go back to the background like in the last half of season 7. I think she's a fun character with great potential (pun unintended)
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Post by wenxina on May 17, 2009 8:24:23 GMT -5
I think that at the end of "Potential", Dawn accepted her place, but at the end of "Living Doll", she also gets that regardless of what she is, she is Buffy's sister. And I guess it's dual development, since Buffy finally says the one things that Dawn probably knew, but needed to hear anyway. That she was more important than any other Slayer. That's what I got from it. So yeah, it reflects on Dawn's growth, slightly beyond "Potential", which btw, was great for her character, though it did feel like it was just an excuse for having slighted her character all season 7.
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Post by Saturn 5 on May 30, 2009 4:27:57 GMT -5
Just read issue 25, very good, love the sad attack by an 'army' of 6 vamps who then get slaughtered by the Slayers. Creepy but Dawn is SOOOO cute as a doll (not that she isn't cute all the time). Note Andrew's totems are Yoda's. And the gang are fans of Veronica Mars which of course Charisma Carpenter and Alysson Hannigan star in. Glad that Buffy made the Wolverine reference, we were all thinking it. The wood nymph remind everyone else of the character of Jeremy from Yellow Submarine? Yet another excuse for the artists to draw naked pictures of Dawn. Lovely scene at the end with Dawnie and Ken parting and lovely scene with Buffy and Dawn, the Summers girls together is always special.
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Post by wenxina on Jun 13, 2009 12:54:35 GMT -5
Random observation, but did anyone else note the similarity between the last few pages of "ABS" and "Living Doll"? If you have no idea what I'm talking about, the sequence of environments is very similar. You have the rising dawn behind Buffy and Twilight in "ABS", and then you have Dawn and Kenny walking with the dawning sun behind them in "Living Doll". In "ABS", Buffy stands on a balcony with Xander watching her Slayers train below. In "Living Doll", Buffy stands in a doorway with Dawn, observing her "soldiers".
But even more interesting is the fact that "Living Doll" is somewhat of a refrain of the main theme of "ABS": connection. In "ABS", Buffy constantly feels disconnected to her Slayers and Dawn, and at one point, looks wistfully at her "little sister" having fun with the rest of the girls, but does not join the merry-making. However, in "Living Doll", Buffy affirms her connection to Dawn, essentially telling Dawn the one thing that she's needed to hear for a while now. While this may be reading too deeply into the matter, Buffy's conversation with Dawn doesn't happen above the training Slayers (unlike in "ABS" with Xander), but rather on the same level. Wonder if she's finally beginning to reconnect again.
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Post by hitnrun017 on Jun 13, 2009 13:41:08 GMT -5
Ooo, that's a great comparision Xi! Buffy being disconnected at the end of ABS and Dawn at the end of Living Doll, it brought them back together, kind of full-circle in a way. I like that.
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Post by AndrewCrossett on Jun 15, 2009 22:29:53 GMT -5
The sales charts are out for May and I'm happy to say Buffy jumped back up to #14 with "Living Doll" after having dropped to #22 (first time out of the top 20) with "Safe." "Living Doll" finished one place ahead of "Amazing Spider Man." Sales were up about 5,000 over the previous month. Also, Dark Horse vaulted back past IDW and Image to become the #3 publisher again, behind Marvel and DC.
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Post by henzINNIT on Jul 12, 2009 10:46:50 GMT -5
A very anticlimactic end to Dawn's arc I thought. She doesn't seem much like the girl in "Potential" who seemed to accept being sidelined. I figured all the silly changes would have had a more interesting pay-off, but in all honesty I would have been more satisfied if Dawn did what she did cause she was bored of being normal lol.
Some nice sisterly interaction at the end though. Something ominus in Buffy saying she loves Dawn "to death".
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Post by BadWolfX on Nov 6, 2009 15:14:06 GMT -5
Only just picked up this issue. I sort of stopped buying halfway through the Time Of Your Life due to lack of money to splurge on comics so I'm playing catch up now that Retreat is finished.
I quite liked the issue. It felt rushed in parts, and I would of liked a longer conversation between Kenny and Dawn but generally it was entertaining, which I wasn't expecting given the general opinion of the Predators and Prey arc.
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